I was finally ready to take the step and subscribe but am being scared off because I see nothing on the join page that indicates that the financial transaction would be secure. The page itself proclaims that it is 100% secure but Firefox is silent on the subject. How does it look on other browsers? That little lock on the bottom used to be helpful.
I wonder how many lovers of mature women do not subscribe to this site because the water mark is too big, too brash and too destructive to the pictures (placed in the wrong spot). This glaring self-promotion might be tolerable on the first picture of a set but on every single pic? Webmaster, if you are looking .. I would be a subscriber if you ever decided to reduce the logo to a more modest, more unobtrusive size.
I noticed in your review that you mentioned the intrusive watermarks. See my remarks below, so thanks. Maybe one of these days the webmaster will take notice and people like me who hate their big yellow glaring logo will be able to subscribe.
Thieves! Make Sure To Watch Your Credit Card Statement.
Net-Member and ScoreGroup are thieves and con merchants.
Received an email from them at Christmas with an offer saying if I came back I could have this all for $19.95: Scoreland, a free website my choice, and 30mins of Video on Demand.
Signed up using the offer link in the email.
February, (I missed them doing it first month). I find they have charged me for the free site!
Immediately I emailed and complained they, responded that I am a member of two sites and they charge on the same day. And get back in touch if I want to cancel one of them.
I emailed straight back showing them the offer they emailed me, it was ignored. I emailed net-member. It was ignored. In the last week have sent something like 20 emails to Scoregroup and net-member and all of them have been ignored.
I have had to go to my bank and do the embarrassing thing of a Chargeback of these two fraudulent double charges.
Don't Touch Them, and To ScoreGroup, Don't send people goddamned offers you don't intend to honor!
Check my Bottom Line in my Website review to see the full email they sent me with this Christmas "Offer".
No Special Discount! OOPs .. apologies to the site!
Just checked and our users are being charged the regular price of $ 29.95. Too bad, The site looked fairly promising.
10-03-09
In fairness to the site and for the sake of those who might not read the replies .. the site does offer a discount to this day. Something was wrong with my browser settings. My apologies for the misleading comment.
Here is how the SCORE webmaster replied to my comment below Pat's:
"We have listened to your comments and all our postings are now available for download on all our websites" but here it comes: "with the exception of HD content which is only available for 5 weeks after the day of posting."
Then later on he/she replied to Pat this way (paraphrased:) "Videos can be downloaded from all sites." Which was always the case! Question still is: since this site practically had HD contents right from the beginning (if I remember correctly) can I now go all the way back and download ALL HD videos or not????
Does anyone know if they stuck to their new business model of allowing you to download the latest updates only (see the three comments below this one) or have they gone back to their old way of doing things .. in other words allowing you to download everything in their archive? I, frankly, did not expect them to last longer than a couple of months after the change but see that their site link is still up. Any present members?
One comment I would add, in addition to my review:
I noticfed Sunday evening that when I did download a video, HD is NOT available in the download section. I believe you need to subscribe to Score HD and this is where the HD video downloads are housed. You can stream the videos in HD but cannot download them. I checked a number of recent video updates to make sure this was the case.
As I am not a big Video guy, this is not an issue for me(mostly). However, I believe this might some people might be rubbed the wrong way, especially if you are used to HD quality downloads. I also think that if this is true, the site owners might make this more clear on the members signup screen and advertising. The HD label appears on the videos, but it does not say you cannot download HD video but only stream them.
I would advise those interested in HD video to subscribe to Score HD if HD video is your primary interest.
Given the cost of subscriptions, HD should be available. IMO, this is a bit misleading but I will always give someone the benefit of the doubt. My opinion is that this is a cross-sell marketing strategy but that is just my opinion. I won't knock them for doing this as it is a good way to cross-sell their sites. I just wish they would be upfront in the member area at Scoreland that HD is NOT available for download there.
I have some good news about this companies policy in regards to downloads. I don't exactly know when this happened but it has to be quite recent. All I know is that you can now download all of their library as opposed to only their most recent videos.
I read somewhere that this is for all of their sites but I can only confirm it for this one and 60 plus.
Consider this an update to my comment of Sept. '07.
The server speed has gotten snappier, but the webmastering problems are still all over the place:
-Inconsistent thumb sizes (often too small, sometimes larger, sometimes a nice large size). At least one recent gallery mixes small thumbs with actual pics! (Check your work, dammit, baby!)
-Inconsistent zips: sometimes all-in-one, sometimes each page has its own zip file.
-Incomplete labeling: In their full lists of updates by month, you can choose solo, g/g, hardcore, or all but in the listings you don't always know if they're going to be videos or photos, without doing extra clicking to find out
-Same old "1600px" photos in portrait orientation that are only 1200x790. THAT's consistent!
I even tried a 800x600 from November 2007 and y'know what? 399x600! Anyway, who the hell wants 800x600 these days? You've gotta be kidding!
They can't even keep the names straight. Clicked on the link to a "Heidi Lee" gallery and she turned into Tecey Heart.
I even came upon some ... broken links! And these were in 2007. And for a gallery (video?) in Dec. 2006 (where I'd last left off), the link took me to the updates for April 2008! (WTF?!)
When I see such things, and so many of them, the thought is "Oh, boy. Well, I guess I can't expect too much from this site." Know what I mean?
(I'm just not gushing over it like they did at Rabbit's. Know what I mean?)
I just joined up for a full membership and was surprised to find that all the videos (execpt the three latest updates) can now ONLY be watched via streaming. (The same goes for 60plusmilfs which is included in the membership.) Furthermore they have set a limit to the time a recently added video is available for downloading – 7 weeks.
This represents quite a change from earlier and as I could find no mentioning of this in any reviews or on the site I figured it might be some form of technical issue. After trying to contact them via their customer service I found that the service does not work in my setup (Mac, OSX, Safari/Firefox/Opera). I got the message "There are errors in your form. Please fill out all the required fields correctly." After trying a few times, and disregarding the possibility that I might be confused about my own first/last name and mailadress, I find it hard to see what the errors might be. I was however able to send a mail to their webeditor.
I prefer to download material and being restricted to streaming as the only option for viewing (exept for those three precious movies on each site) would have been a solid reason for me not to sign up. Also considering that the combined update rate for the two sites is only one new movie every week and the total amount of content, I see no reason to stay on as a member… Sayonara, Scoreland.
Update. Received this response from customer service:
"In an effort to limit the amount of content being downloaded by “pirates” using automated download managers, we recently updated the download options for video postings on www.50PlusMilfs.com and www.60PlusMilfs.com.
All new video content remains totally downloadable in HD. However, after approximately six weeks, the download option will be removed and the content will then be viewable only in streaming format.
To increase the enjoyment of our streaming videos, we have recently upgraded to a state-of-the-art new Content Delivery Network (CDN) with servers around the world to ensure that our streaming video plays fast and without buffering.
Please understand that your long-term satisfaction remains our top priority, and if you are not satisfied with www.50PlusMilfs.com or www.60PlusMilfs.com, we would be happy to cancel and refund your membership upon your request. Of course, we really hope you understand the dire consequences of Internet piracy and are willing to stay with us through these trying times. We fully understand that it is your support that keeps us in business and enables us to continue discovering new models and shooting the top-notch content that you expect from us."
This is another site where the watermarks are way too big and intrusive, at least in the picture sets. Who wants to stare at a company advertising itself in the most conspicuous places when you've paid to see an unmutilated, unobstructed picture. It's as bad as 40something.mag. The moment they'll reduce their self-promotion I'll be happy to subscribe. The models seem to be fine!
Beware. I just found out as I was attempting to cancel that it can only be done by calling a 1-888 number. First time I came across this in any site and I don't like it one bit. Revised score will reflect this because easy on-line cancellation is a must for any site I join.
A couple of hours later:
Once again I should have looked before I leaped. There is a tiny button on the bottom of the site's page called "members services" that I overlooked first time around. The way it's set up it didn't look like anything that would be helpful to me unless I had problems eg. "member services: technical requirements: HD FAQs: etc."
So I wrote to support to cancel for me (no subscription number on the receipt) and their computer mistook it for a technical problem and told me to call a toll free number. I hope all is clear now. Just click on members services, give your user name and password and you should be okay. Messmer going back to edit a review!
I highly recommend the trial here. Tons of material to go through, and most of the newer stuff, both pics and vids, are of excellent, if not top-end, quality. Zips available for pic-sets, and single-file vid downloads. If you like big breasts (oh come on, admit it!) I can't see how 7 bucks would be ill-spent on 3 days pickins' from all this material. I will go for the full month some time in the near future.
edited to add: browsing-fun is limited because you can only see the big pics if you download the zip file, but that's no biggy. Navigation can be a hassle, but once you get used to it it's a breeze. For newer Score vids, go to the last pages, not the first pages. In other words, page eleven has newer stuff than page one.
If we added both the amount of video here as well as the weight of the gals the total would be more then the weight of all the combined planets! know however that although the downloads are 640x380 resolution the quality of the films is horrendous.. like watching TV through a frosted shower door. this site is best for those on turtle dial up who only need to stream.
I'm actually a member of 50plusmilfs.com and I didn't know that just recent updates were downloadable just few weeks. The reason I joined this site was just for few videos I can't download now! I don't like watch porn in streaming. So I sent an email and the reason was because of "pirates". This site is part of the Score Group and I've been a member of Scoreland and Scorevideos, and all of their materials can be downloadable.
I feel I got trapped.
So be aware before signing up for this site that you can't download most of videos.
I noticed that 18Eighteen has gone to a $2.95 3 day full access trial and dropped it's monthly rate to $20. I really enjoyed this site before they jacked the price up and it seems more reasonable at these prices now. I just joined and am pretty happy with the content. Picture sizes seem more consistent now and there is now a feature for downloading zips in large or small format (this addresses some of Drooler's frustrations noted in the previous comment here). Production value and videos are still looking goood too. I'll post a review soon.
(Post note: As of 10/27/08 the 3 day full access trial option is gone, talk about being listed and taken down in a flash).
I have to give the thumbs up for this organisation. I've been downloading for free for the last few months because I refuse to take out a membership with any site that tries to trick potential customers with pre checked cross sales. I have thought of joining this one for several months but was put off by the cross sales. Then yesterday I checked once again but couldn't find the pre checked box. Were they hiding it in an attempt to trick us? I sent the following email.
"I have been thinking about taking out a membership to this site. However I have always been put off joining any site that tries to trick members with pre checked cross sells. There is a warning on Porn Users about pre checked cross sells on 18 Eighteen, but I cannot see any on the join up page. It has a tick besides the discount of $19.95. Is there a hidden pre checked cross sell?
Please let me know if you have stopped trying to trick people. If there is no pre checked cross sell I may well try the site for a month. If there is an attempt to dishonestly steal money I shall be complaining to both my credit card company, the biling agent, and also publishing a warning on Porn Users."
I didn't expect a reply but surprisingly received one. The email read "Thank you for contacting us, I went online to make sure it doesn't have a pre-checked box for another site. And we do offer another site for a discounted rate BUT you must manually check the box to receive the offer."
I mailed back "Thanks for your reply. Having to manually check the box is fine by me. It's the pre checked ones I hate. I think I shall give it a go."
They replied " Thanks for the reply, we used to have it like that and to satisfy the clients we removed it and now you must check the box yourself to receive the discounted rate for the additional site."
Now hats off to any site that responds to demand. I signed on, and so far am pleased that I did. I originally was attracted to TNA Tryouts too. However if you join this site or Picking Up Pussy it costs $29.99 for the three sites - 18 Eighteen, TNA Tryouts, and Picking Up Pussy. However if you join 18 Eighteen through Porn Users you receive the same three sites - for the discounted price of $19.99.
I will be doing a rare review in a few weeks, but at first glance I really like it. Too many tats and piercings for my taste, but not many fake breasts. Attractive girls too, with mainly good quality pics and videos, so I consider it a worthwhile purchase. Finally a site that is worthy of receiving my money.
If the theme of this site should tempt you to subscribe do it through 50Plus MILFS. There you will get 50plus and 60plus combined for our special rate of $19.95 rather than the $29.95 listed here (also for both sites.)
You should also be aware of the fact that all 60Plus MILFs content, except for two new Bea Cummings videos, was transferred to this site from 50Plus MILFs.
Both sites are still worth subscribing to ... for a month ... even though updates might, by necessity, be slow at times. How many women over 60 who are willing to model can you find in the space of a month?
FYI. I joined a week or so ago and the cancel page and get password links don't work. Emails to the customer support go unanswered. No response at all from this site. Glad my password is still working because I could not get it refreshed if I needed to. Have no idea if my cancellation requests are getting any attention. I get nervous about the membership and billing when the site does not respond like this especially at this cost! I did not see an actual webmaster or email address to use.
UPDATE FOR JULY24 HEY BEST PORN GANG This is oneof my favorite BBW sites and the sign up page still claims that " this ,embership is not available" This is still the only site I've come accross that won't take my money1 HELP! At the present time there seems to be no way to join. Entering the usual info and clicking on any payment method brings up " this membership method is not available" Anyone know what's g
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