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How do you feel about sites who disparage their models by calling them names like slut, whore, bitch, etc?

Type: General
Think the models deserve it 0% 0 Votes
Not thrilled but it's ok 2% 1 Votes
Don't care for it at all 68% 28 Votes
Never give it much thought 10% 4 Votes
Undecided 5% 2 Votes
Other 15% 6 Votes

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41 Votes Total

Oct 27, 2012

Poll Replies (22)

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graymane (33) No, I don't care for it at all. Further, what baffles me is why a woman would allow herself to be slice-an-diced to this depth of debasement in the first place.
Goes to show how much and how far she'll surrender her dignity and self-worth to be in films.
Very sad.

10-27-12  01:03am

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graymane (33) Dammit! ..... I ain't finished.
(excellent poll question, by the way.)
Apart from other allowable demeaning attacks on their girls, favored by rot-gut-greedy, smut-peddlers to feed the wanton lust of that segment of paying customers ...... there remains that cash-waving bunch who get-off on seeing women suffer.

10-27-12  01:31am

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Capn (28) No. I don't like it at all & it is one of the main reasons I don't care to watch videos.

What makes these arrogant people think that they are better than the people they are abusing anyway?!!

Cap'n. :0(

10-27-12  03:13am

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lk2fireone (196) Where is Uma Thurman, the star of "Kill Bill"? She's gonna teach all those foul mouthed gents a lesson by cutting off their balls!
10-27-12  04:22am

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Marcus (47) I suppose it's all about role play, but for me it never adds anything to the video and normally takes away from it if the acting is done with any form of conviction.
10-27-12  04:38am

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marcdc1 (174) REPLY TO #5 - Marcus :

I'm with Marcus. This is acting and a fantasy.

If done well I think it can be very hot especially in some of the amateur sites where I think it is more about fantasy and less about acting.

I agree with the rest of the post where if it is done as abuse - that's not my think. to put some context to this conversation I think myhotwife is an incredible sexy wife where the husband talks about "pimping out his wife. A site like facial abuse is less erotic.

10-27-12  06:29am

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pat362 (373) I find most of the words offensive and I'd rather not read them or hear them used to describe a girl appearing in a porn scene. The only exception I can think of is the word bitch but it must be used in a dialogue driven movie where the characters are talking about someone and they describe that person as being a bitch. I wouldnd't like to hear that word used during a sex.
10-27-12  10:12am

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #3 - Capn :

It's not only videos, Capn. The same sort of abuse is all too often found in the comments accompanying a picture set. I always come away from that feeling slimed and ashamed to be moving in the same circles as those louts. Thank God for PU where the models appear to be more respected. I have rarely (if ever?) seen abusive, misogynistic posts in the forum during the past five years.

Anyway, back to the poll: I wholeheartedly agree with the majority I despise the abusive name calling by site owners as they describe a video.

10-27-12  10:39am

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Toadsith (48) It really depends on the performers and how they react and sell their roles. Some performers seem to really get off on either dominating or being dominated, and so their enthusiasm in every aspect of the scene is enhanced by the vulgar word play. Others seem to be distracted and occasionally, genuinely upset by the verbal onslaught - those cases would definitely detract from enjoyment of the scene. The sheer taboo nature of the behavior occasionally can be appealing itself, for example Ghetto Gaggers and associated sites basically thrive on that concept. It has, however, a rather narrow appeal. While I personally can appreciate it, it is far from my favorite content.

On a side note: Would anyone honestly pick the first choice? It seems like that one could have been removed and "Like it if it is part of consensual roleplay" would have been a better choice. I think a number of us would have chosen that as it covers much of Kink.com who frequently uses aggressive dialogue but goes out of their way to show it is consensual. Frankly, Brazzers also does a good job of this with their Pornstar Punishment series, featuring a similar after scene interview.

10-27-12  10:46am

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TheSquirrel (53) I don't like it at all. I agree with messmer in that it is also present in comments accompanying a picture set. It's the same for forums. Given some of the comments by porn fans on sites like VideoBox it's the same stuff. Some love it, I hate it. Maybe it's harmless, maybe not. It does worry me a bit.
10-27-12  10:55am

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hodayathink (18) To me, as far as sites are concerned, they usually either do it to all their models (see sites like Facial Abuse and the like) or none of them. So the girls that shoot for these sites, generally speaking, know what they're getting into as far as that is concerned, and by shooting for them (and going through with the shoot), they're implicitly complying with it. And, like Toadsmith said, some girls actually like it as part of the roleplay and it can enhance the experience.

As far as my opinion when I see/hear it, it doesn't subtract from the scene unless it's clear that the model doesn't enjoy it. But it can add to the scene unless she's getting off on it. So I guess I'm neutral about it.

10-27-12  01:19pm

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Capn (28) REPLY TO #8 - messmer :

You are quite correct, my friend.
I had not extrapolated the question to cover comments on photosets.
To a lesser extent it does go on there, but that is the viewer rather than the people that are involved in creating the content.

Cap'n :0/

10-27-12  03:33pm

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Drooler (220) Whether it's real or fantasy/acting, I strongly dislike misogynistic porn.

I actually consider porn to be part of women's liberation -- their sexual liberation. But of course, not everyone is going to see it that way.

10-27-12  06:32pm

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RustyJ (145) I don't really care. It goes with some genres more than others. Sometimes there is some intentional humiliating or a plot line that works ok with such but sometimes it just feels forced acting.
10-28-12  12:50am

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otoh (54) Doesn't work for me at all! Agree with Drooler that my ideal porn is very sex-positive and empowering to women - although admittedly much is not like that.

Also agree with Messmer that on sites which have comments, some are awful; I don't really understand the lack of respect in some of them.

10-28-12  12:56am

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elephant (67) Yeah not a fan at all of this type of porn, I think the if its role play and they make it clear she wants to be treated like this like on some kink scenes then Ok but not a fan of this type of stuff, women should be worshipped and adored.
10-28-12  05:42am

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gaypornolover (38) I picked "other" because I think it's fine if it's part of a specific roleplay type of porn that the model has consented to and understands will happen.

I love that sort of porn, but only if I know it's a proper roleplaying scene where the model has given full consent and may even enjoy it - I know that's possible because I kinda enjoy it myself outside of porn!

Unlike many on here I actually like sites which have pre- and post-production interviews with models to show they consented - I find it reassuring and hot to know they enjoyed it. I'd be uncomfortable if there was any doubt they consented and I prefer to think of them enjoying it.

I wouldn't like to think it was used routinely though or if the model wasn't expecting it and hadn't consented to it.

Incidentally, anyone choosing the option "I think the models deserve it" is a horrible person who shouldn't be watching porn! Happily, no-one seems to have done so as yet.

I have the utmost respect for porn stars and I think everyone else should to.

If you use porn but think like that about the models I think you're a hypocrite - if they're so terrible then you're as bad for watching.

10-28-12  09:04am

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Cybertoad (Disabled)
I do not like it, it kind takes way from the interaction. If the guy is going to ignore his partner either gay or straight he might as well be jerking off in a mirror yelling at himself.
The problem is Directors still do not get it, it is not 99% of the time about the give but the receiver is the one that gets us going. To be graphic for a moment which is more desirable the grunt from the guy inserting or the sigh and moan from the receiver.
Most will say the receiver be it a gay or straight.
So refocusing the viewer on the giver is not in most cases a turn on and calling names and such definitely makes it about the person giving it and not the receiver.

Just my off the center take.

10-28-12  11:01am

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #12 - Capn :

Very true, Capn! The owners of most picture sites are more respectful than that. Places like VideoBox and Videosz are appalling when it comes to their comments.
10-28-12  12:31pm

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messmer (137) What seems to be forgotten (and that is okay by me) is that the original poll question is about site owners and the derogatory way some of them describe the models/actresses. VideoBox is infamous for that. However the producers are not far behind when they name their DVDs,
10-28-12  12:36pm

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slutty (111) I agree with Drooler, I hate this type of material, and find it to be the opposite of erotic.
10-28-12  07:52pm

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marcdc1 (174) Very interesting poll. I'm also fascinated by the idea that the community seems to be in consensus that it is important for the talent to be respected (although what "respected" means may vary a little)

It seems, as a community, we run counter to the notion that porn is inherently exploitative.

Perhaps there's a new poll question?

10-31-12  05:54pm

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