Both these look possible - I knew about EroticaX, but my concern is that the main target of the producers is HardX which is a site I wouldn't go near, EroticaX just looks like something they're not really interested in.
I hadn't heard of Lust Cinema - from the review it looks like it doesn't allow downloads. Is this the case?
Does anyone know whether the $10 trial is fully functional?
X-art these days is a long way from the kind of site I'd want to be on, it seems to have become slightly glossy gonzo rather than the beautiful erotica they claim. But I think there are maybe 10 or 12 films from the last year that I would like to download. I'd like to give them as little money as possible given their godawful business practices, they're really not the sort of people I want to pay money to. It would be cool if a $10 trial would allow me to download the few films I'd like to watch.
Hi RA - with regards to darkness, I was referring to both, not necessarily in the same film. There have been largely negative comments from members on the site about some of the recent material (and lots of positive comments from the staff who know where their next paycheck is coming from). Interestingly, quite a few are from female members saying that they don't like it but are OK with it being there if other members do like it.
I saw an interview with Colette from X-Art in GQ a couple of years ago, where she said that although they were aiming at females & couples, they were aware that the majority of their members were male porn users - and they are coming from years of watching much more extreme material. I think that, in the end, this is why the glamcore sites go downhill. It's a commercial decision, and I don't blame them for it. Unfortunately it means there isn't anywhere for people like us.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
- Cinematic quality films
- A lot of attractive models, many from MetArt.
- Active comments from users.
- Very quick and reliable downloads, always maxes out my internet connection (around 5 MBytes/sec).
- All updates are clearly dated.
- All exclusive content
- Multiple sizes and resolutions of photos & videos. Videos up to 1080p.
- Streaming available - never tried it
- Around 350 films and slightly more photo sets. Daily updates - 3 films per week.
- Little variety of models - almost all white, slim, 18 - 25.
- Photo sets by and large not so good.
- Rather too many models with tattoos and piercings for my tastes, inceasing number of less attractive mainstream porn models recently.
- Cross-site advertising is a pain.
- Recent site revamp is a big step back, with prominent adverts for webcams in the middle of the screen, and a very difficult to follow and uneven layout.
- Photo sets which come with the films are very variable, partly because the lighting is set up for films and they are obviously done in a hurry.
- The sex is becoming harsher and less joyful. Over recent months almost every scene has had to include something "controversial" - blindfold, gag, ass licking, toilet sex, anal, humiliation, or the scene is so dark you can't see anything anyway.
- The films are becoming far too long. 30 minutes is now common, lots of dark, meaningful guff followed by the kind of sex you don't actually want to watch anyway.
I am rewriting this review as the site has changed out of all recognition since my last review just from over a year ago. The basic facts listed above haven't changed a lot, but the material they produce has.
This site was in the "glamcore" or "heartcore" genre. They seem to be now concentrating on "fantasy", by which they clearly mean "male fantasy", and the material often now has an ugly edge to it, as though beautiful sex is no longer enough (for us, beautiful sex is ALL).
They release 3 films a week, mostly with associated photo sets, and separate photo sets on the other days. The films are markedly higher quality than the photos. There was a fairly even mix of solo, GG & BG films - for a while there were no solo films, and over the last few weeks it has been almost exclusively GG. For a while the films pushed boundaries of eroticism and getting a real connection and excitement, but now they have fallen back on being controversial for the sake of it, like they don't know what else to do.
The photo sets have always been of mostly much lower quality, often just look like more explicit MetArt photos. Stylistically the photos & films don't match. The are very few BG photo sets, and they are of pretty low quality.
My last review stated that I would definitely rejoin. In the end I took a break and have dipped in for a couple of single months since. We've now cancelled for the final time and won't be rejoining. The films just aren't fun anymore. We watch the early films - bright, simple, beautiful, short & disciplined, and above all FUN, over and over. I don't think there has been anything released over the last year that we have watched more than once. The films are getting longer and longer, and darker and uglier.
I originally joined this site when it was about 6 months old, and absolutely loved it, it did everything I wanted as far as the films were concerned even if the photography wasn't as good. It has been on a long gradual slide since then. I watch erotica with my wife who has a hair-trigger as far as ugly material is concerned, and she just doesn't like it any more. They've clearly run out of ideas and are just pushing down the obvious easy route of nasty sex claiming to be "brave". If you think anal sex is a "Milestone", you're not making glamcore anymore.
I've given the site a higher mark than I otherwise would because it still has the library of amazingly gorgeous early material. Even if you would dislike the current material as much as we do, it is worth joining for a month to get that first year - 18 months of absolutely ground-breaking erotic films.
While the site is still a long way from violent abusive mainstream porn, it is nothing like the beautiful, elegant, joyous place it was. It is no longer really that female or couple friendly, more a place for hardened porn addicts who fancy something a bit classier looking.
All the glamcore site move in this direction in the end - see what happened at x-art & joymii. It seems that a couple of years producing bright, beautiful, female friendly material is about the limit. Then they just become harder, nastier, darker, all in the name of "development" but really just chasing the male porn addict market. Given the state of that market, it seems a strange thing to do. I guess we will just wait around for a new high quality site to appear, and follow that for it's period at the top.
I've just had a look. They've deleted all the negative comments and added a big gushing interview with one of the performers where she goes on about how anyone who doesn't like anal has a closed mind and all that shit. Real stupid straw man arguments.
It's exactly what x-art did a couple of years ago. Bigging up all the anal scenes, censoring negative comments, insulting those who don't like anal.
Funny really. It even the same down to this - a month ago the guy who runs the site said they wouldn't do anal - when they were making this film at the time. Once Colette at x-art said they had one anal scene in th can and wouldn't do any more, and two weeks later released a dp scene! They're the same right down to the lying about it!
They're running scared after what happened to Cameron Bay.
If you set a mob of 50 drunken psychos on a girl, with permission to do pretty much what they want to her, something is going to go wrong. This site had untested members of the public slapping, beating, scratching, and even sticking their hands roughly into the girls. They were lucky with Bay in that she had a lurid personal life so they were able to cloud the issue and claim she could have been infected before. If it had happened to another performer, Kink could have been wiped out.
Kink always claim to be very big on consent, although the scenes themselves appear anything but consensual. In these PD scenes the girls have no idea what is going on, and who is touching them - Bay said she was just trying to survive it and it was only when she saw the finished scene that she realised what was happening to her.
They are trying to become a center for the BDSM community, but they have found that they are an embarrassment to it. Most of their material is about violence, hate & rape rather than consensual BDSM, and their audience is misogynists and hate-filled creeps who would never get near a woman let alone negotiate consensual BDSM with her. That's why they are cleaning up their act.
Not only do they not enjoy it, they really hate it.
By the time they've not eaten for hours, given themselves an enema and thoroughly cleaned (no-one wants to see a scat movie), then the whole area is even more sensitive than normal. Even using anaesthetic cream doesn't stop it entirely - I've even heard of girls resorting to injecting local anaesthetics to get through anal scenes. I mean, how could anyone think that a girl could take half a dozen outsized cocks up her ass for 2 or 3 hours and be in anything other than searing pain?
I don't know anything about your site at all. I have no idea what the niche is, what the content is like, or anything. Having read this, I do know I would never ever join it, if it was the last site on earth.
What an unpleasant little man.
Abbey Winters occupies a niche which isn't of interest to me, so I have no dog in this argument. However, I do find the comments on photography interesting. I have noticed that a few other sites are trying to get away from the lights up full, f/16 or f/22 everything in focus simplistic photography, and bringing in a more intimate feel with shallow depth of field, more natural light etc (for example 21st sextury). I assume it's an attempt to differentiate themselves from the mass produced herd. To me it's a great improvement. Sadly, it seems that a significant number of consumers don't get it, and just think it's out of focus or underexposed.
I travel abroad a lot, and I've occasionally fallen foul of security when logging on to a site from two different countries on the same day. X-art was a pain for this - I used to have to go through the full password reset process. I eventually worked out that you have to wait until the next day PCT.
I'd let my membership of TLE lapse as the quality of the photo sets in particular had slipped a bit and they only release 2 films per week. However, I decided to rejoin for a month.
The bad news is that the photo sets are still a bit down on what they were a year or so ago.
The good news is that they have stepped up the release schedule. They now do 3 films a week (instead of 2), and release a photo set every day (they used to do photo sets on the days that they didn't do films). So thats 3 films/7 photo sets instead of 2 films/5 photo sets.
I don't think its enough for me to become a long term member, but I'll definitely dip into it more often.
However, I did see an interview with a couple of performers where they said how easy it was compared to other extreme porn. Compared to the brutal and very painful anal type stuff which they have to go through for most scenes, bukkake is nothing. If you're used to getting sperm on your face, bukkake is just more of it. There may be a lot of humiliation involved, but it isn't painful or dangerous. You can do one scene in the morning, and another in the afternoon. With most extreme porn, you can't work for days afterwards while you recover.
I've used hotels a few times, don't really like doing it but I'm on the road a lot and have had problems keeping up with the updates on some sites. I'm quite happy to access PU, it doesn't seem like porn!
Sooner or later all these sites give up on the quality and beauty - it's just too much hard work when the majority of porn consumers only want to see brutality. Fortunately SexArt hasn't dropped its standards yet. I hope you like it!
Well I'm afraid the self-justification simply raises a hollow laugh. I only have one experience of this site - when X-Art hired James Deen several members complained because of his violent material, so I downloaded a film to see for myself. I had no idea such repulsive violence existed. In addition to the slapping and spitting which I kind of expected, the girl was beaten repeatedly with a pool cue, swung around by her hair, punched, kicked in the face, they stamped on the back of her neck so hard I'm surprised they didn't break it, and half drowned. She ended up semi conscious. Sure, they chucked a bucket of water over her and she sat there blankly saying how wonderful it was afterwards - again, that's a legal loophole, that's all. Anyone who isn't provoked to a towering rage by such material is beyond me, and the very idea that someone could find it sexually arousing is utterly sickening. This was nothing to do with sex, it was just violence, brutality and hatred.
I guess we just have different views on the ways one human being should treat another.
The material on this site really is the worst of the worst. The little "interviews" are used by Kink to circumvent our already minimal restrictions on violence in porn and protections for the female performers. They are all that prevent the producers and male performers from being where they should be - behind bars. Viewers may rationalise (ie lie) to themselves that the interviews show that Kink are good guys but the reality is that they are taking advantage of the state of the porn business and paying the girls a minimal amount (what was paid 10 years ago for a single easy straight B/G scene) and making them agree to the most appalling abuse in order to scratch a living.
Anyone who isn't utterly repelled by this material really needs to take a long hard look into their soul. Sure, the r@pe part of it may be (just) a fantasy, but the violence, brutality, abuse, and shattering pain which the girls are suffering for your viewing pleasure are unfortunately very, very real.
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