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Monahan (44) 09-01-13  11:13pm
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Caveat Emptor - A New Trick

I signed up for Naughty America yesterday (a return for me) because I have always liked the site and wanted to see what's new. At first glance I like the changes they've made, at least most of them.

But in addition to the usual tabs (Home, Porn Finder, Our Sites) they added a new tab, "Specials". When I clicked on it I got a display of several sites that looked like what we usually see as pop-up ads. However when I clicked on one just to see what was offered I found that that one click resulted in my creating a subscription to that site. I found that out when I got a confirming email.

The biller is Epoch. So I used their Chat feature and asked them to reverse the charge for the unintended sign-up. They reversed the charge so no harm no foul.

However, it's a new "trick," sort of like the old game of cross sells, that all PU's who are Naughty America members need to watch.

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pat362 (375) The same thing happened to me when I was a member of teenmegaworld. I went on their discount page and clicked on one of the link to see what the site looked like and boom I was charged for that site. I did the same thing you did and got the charge reversed.
09-02-13  08:01am

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TheSquirrel (53) This just isn't on. This is why so many, including myself, are now so leery of joining a site because of worries about being ripped off, and all the hassle of putting it right, it's not worth joining. For the record I rejoined Teen Mega World because of them getting rid of pre checked cross selling, and so nearly nearly pressed those buttons to see what the special discount sites were like. NA and TMW You are going cause online porn serious harm because you are acting like scum bags.

I was going to do a Teen Mega World review for the new PU site, and had most of it done. Because of this new trick I'm not going to. In fact I think I'm not going to do another review, until PU/TBP highlights and distinguishes between the honest and dishonest. You need to be standing on the side of righteousness and honesty. This sort of thing has to stop before all porn sites have the same reputation as those rip off places in the 80's run by organised crime.

NA and TMW are acting like criminals, or at least like conmen. It's the same to me. It's trying to trick people and rip them off. It has to stop. You wont stop it yourselves so someone like PU/TBP has to stand up and do something, or they/us will be tarnished too. That's the way I feel. You cannot and should not lump all the networks and porn sites together. Some are plain dishonest, some are genuinely honest and customer oriented. We need to distinguish between those who are and those who aren't.

This is not a small thing, it's the difference between crook and honest citizen. TBP/PU, stand up and do something now before credibility is lost. I feel I should stop contributing for a while, because not enough is being done to stop this behaviour.

09-02-13  09:56am

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TheSquirrel (53) I have just cancelled my membership with TMW even though I was going to stay at least another month.
09-02-13  10:06am

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Monahan (44) REPLY TO #2 - TheSquirrel :

Thanks Squirrel. My first reaction was more positive because the reversal required only one communication; but you made me think. The outfit with the great service was Epoch, not Naughty America.

The Naughty America site is a very well constructed site with superb creativity. They don't need this kind of sketchy business practice.

09-02-13  02:28pm

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gaypornolover (38) Wow that's awful. I genuinely think this site should be removed from PU and TBP until they quit this. It's more than just cross-selling.
I think people should boycott this site until it quits this and pledges never to do it, or anything similar, again.

Anyone who is a current member should leave and tell them the reason why.

09-02-13  02:52pm

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Roberto281 (0) REPLY TO #5 - gaypornolover :

No, TBP shouldn't remove the site. It should keep it so users can see what frauds they are and won't subscribe.
09-02-13  04:19pm

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TheSquirrel (53) REPLY TO #4 - Monahan :

I thought maybe I was over reacting but looking at the latest replies I don't think I am. This whole thing is starting to get ridiculous with some sites getting nastier and more dishonest. We're hearing about this all the time now on PU, and it's getting worse.

Yes it is dishonesty, and it should be stopped or some people will stop buying online porn altogether, because a cheap membership could end up costing you $100-200. If you can't distinguish between the conmen and the honest sites, it's bad news for everyone. If a veteran like Pat, who knows what he's doing, gets caught, it's a very very bad sign.

09-02-13  06:20pm

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gaypornolover (38) REPLY TO #6 - Roberto281 :

Good point! I was so mad with them I wasn't thinking! Maybe they could put a warning notice on their TBP page?
09-02-13  09:22pm

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Laptopbs (0) Thanks for the warning. This is a great site and I signed up for another year just today because the content, quality, and update frequency are so good. But I have also noticed the flood of advertisements and "specials" over the last year.

I ran into something like this once before with another large site (Bang Brothers) if it can be mentioned.

It signed me up automatically somehow for a month to month subscription even though I did not give them any billing information. I have no idea how they did this.

Fortunately I like the site and was trying to sign up for the annual rate, so it took me a few months to figure out how to avoid this "auto subscription"

With your warning I will also go to Epoch to make sure I have not subscribed to anything inadvertently.

09-11-13  09:05pm

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lagit (1) I think it might also be worth to let the billing company know you disapprove. It may not help, but you can never tell. Some of the billing companies do have a good rep.

I am a former member of NA, but this "Auto Subscribe Minefield" they have has held me off.

Bang Bros I quit after I got nailed just once.

Others like Videobox is so straight forward and honest that my subscription is in it's I don't know how many years of running. Pretty close to as long as they have been around I would guess.....

12-03-13  02:48pm

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tikkit (3) This exact same thing happened to me this past week.
I clicked on the add to the College Sugarbabes "site" on the page directly after the login page to NA, figuring I would get to check out a preview page or tour, and the next thing I see is a Payment confirmation from Epoch!
I felt ripped off, but then said what the hell, maybe there is some good stuff worth checking out or downloading.
My next surprise is that there is only about 25 videos and NOTHING is downloadable! what a joke!
I'll probably never Join NA again because of this garbage, and I've joined them 5-6 times over the years.
I haven't yet tried to get my money back but hearing from you on how easy it was, I plan to do so.
It would be one thing if the cross check sites or discounted sites were worth anything, but you would be better off burning your $18 than joining "College sugarbabes", I can't speak for the other sites.

01-19-14  09:03pm

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Monahan (44) REPLY TO #11 - tikkit :

I rejoined for one month using a special deal. They modified the cross promotion formats so they aren't "quite" as likely to be accidentally activated.

However I agree that NA now qualifies to be banned from pU/TBP because of their lousy and deceptive business practices.

The Bang Bros scam is just a tad different because their game is played via a promotional email and not on the site itself. It's lousy, but if you sign up for the site and don't respond to their emails, you're safe...at least for now.

10-11-14  07:59pm

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