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Do you own a fire-arm?

Type: Personal
Yes, several 12% 5 Votes
Yes, one 7% 3 Votes
No 80% 33 Votes

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41 Votes Total

Apr 12, 2012

Poll Replies (30)

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hodayathink (18) Don't own one. Never fired one. Maybe touched one once, I don't remember.
04-12-12  12:11am

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gaypornolover (38) Nope, and no desire to.
04-12-12  12:11am

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graymane (29) Don't know what this poll question has to do with porn..... but yeah, a carbine .... and it's loaded with a full metal (jacket) clip of 30 Cal. hollow-tips.
My prayer is that I never have to use it.

04-12-12  12:20am

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BadMrFrosty (56) Does a water pistol count?
04-12-12  05:12am

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RustyJ (145) No. I have no idea what to do with one.
04-12-12  05:45am

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Cybertoad (100) Arsenal, no I am not a Gun Toting Nut, I just like quality guns.
A few of my prides as a SigSaure P229 police issue
12 clip 40 cal. Was used in Navy and Marine security units. Has no safety you pull and shoot.
I also have a Sear Winchester , when sears sold guns its a 12 gauge in mint condition. I have other rifles 357 mags etc.

04-12-12  07:36am

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Cybertoad (100) REPLY TO #3 - graymane :

LOL true !
04-12-12  07:36am

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t9chome (0) Only gun I ever owned was a spear gun. I would like to have a 1911 someday, but damn they're expensive.
04-12-12  08:30am

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jberryl69 (12) REPLY TO #6 - Cybertoad :

So, if one were to buy a pistol, what would you suggest to be serviceable and reasonable weapon? Not just busta kneecap kind, but has control and drops them dead!?
04-12-12  09:22am

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pat362 (365) No but being Canadian then a rifle might be the only type of weapon I could legally get. I have shot a few pellet guns in my youth but I don't know if this qualifies as a firearm.
04-12-12  09:54am

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Denner (233) Nope - here in this small country it can give you up to one year in prison - just have have one in your house - without permission, of course - but that's very hard to get.
BTW, like RustyJ: wouldn't know what to do with one..and have no desire to have one.

04-12-12  02:17pm

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Drooler (218) No. I think guns are very interesting from an engineering standpoint. They can also be aesthetically pleasing, especially the more ornately crafted and decorated ones. But I can just watch the shows about guns on US television to learn about such things; a day doesn't go by when there isn't something about firearms on this or that channel.

But own one? Never have.

04-12-12  02:59pm

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exotics4me (463) Can't say I haven't had one or a couple before, but I don't have one now or intend on getting one in the future. I do collect knives and swords though, mostly from the Far Eastern cultures. As for defense, I keep a basket with baseballs in it and dare anyone to try and dodge them!
04-12-12  03:10pm

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badandy400 (103) Have a few. Mainly an AR-15 Carbine. Currently keep soft tips for home defense, but looking into the newer split core defense rounds. Also have some XM855, the full jacketed steel ball ammo that was recently declassified as armor piercing, making it legal to own. We have a .40 pistol and I keep a Walther P22 on my desk.

Every home should be able to defend itself.

04-12-12  04:00pm

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badandy400 (103) REPLY TO #9 - jberryl69 :

I would suggest a rifle for home defense. This is contrary to many beliefs but some of the new home defense rounds have great stopping power yet low wall penetration....do not want to be killing your neighbors too. Any 16.5" barreled M4 type AR-15 would do.

Second I would get a revolver. The Judge is a great option because it can fire large shot shells. They do make shot shells that are normal bullet sized as well, they can be used in an automatic, but jam consistently. They would great in revolvers because the round is already chambered and just waiting to be fired. I recommend this, again, because of amazing stopping power up close, but much lower risk of collateral damage. At 15 feet or less this would blow a hole the size of a grapefruit in someone, but at 100 yards is nothing more than getting hit with a BB gun or two. They reduce risk of getting jail time for a collateral kill, force to be within the legal range to use lethal force, do great damage up close, and can miss a little but still cause damage because of spread. This is important because people ALWAYS miss a little when in that situation. A 9mm that passes 1 mm from the persons neck could mean your death. A shot shell from a revolver that is centered 1 mm from the persons neck is a bloody mess, and you and your family live.

Go to your local dealer, a good one, and discuss it with them. Spend some time at a local range and see what feels right. Then keep going to the range so you stay at least familiar with how to operate the gun(s). Take some defense courses too.

That all being said, I most sincerely hope that all of you and myself never NEED a gun. They will call you paranoid, until you need it, then they will call you prepared.

04-12-12  04:13pm

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Cybertoad (100) REPLY TO #9 - jberryl69 :

Can not go wrong with Sig Sauer arms, they are made in germany and assembled here.
04-12-12  06:48pm

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otoh (54) REPLY TO #12 - Drooler :

Agree with Drooler - I'm sort of interested in them as objects, I appreciate well-made and well-engineered things. But concur that I can know what I need to from watching US TV programmes!

Have tried clay shooting a few times, but otherwise have not fired a pistol or rifle. Confess I might be interested to try at a range or something - but even if it were legal here in the UK, I don't think a gun is something I need or want in my house. I do have an airsoft replica of Robocop's gun, though :)

04-13-12  01:19am

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Monahan (38) The only fire arm I own is my third arm (between my legs) and it's notoriously unreliable, both in preparing to fire its load and its ability to shoot several loads in succession. It seems to peter out (so to speak) long before the job is done.

Sigh.

04-13-12  10:46am

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jberryl69 (12) REPLY TO #16 - Cybertoad :

Nothing cheap about them either!
04-13-12  12:38pm

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jberryl69 (12) REPLY TO #15 - badandy400 :

BA400 wrote, "That all being said, I most sincerely hope that all of you and myself never NEED a gun. They will call you paranoid, until you need it, then they will call you prepared."

What do they call you when your weapon gets taken away from and you're killed? Even happens to cops.

04-13-12  12:41pm

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jberryl69 (12) REPLY TO #15 - badandy400 :

Just watched a video on the Judge and found it very informative. It was an amateur video of a guy using different types of shells - from 7½ down to 000 (four pellets) and then a bullet. Seemed like the 00 would be about right for home defense, but this is truly a weapon where you don't fire till you see the white's of their eyes. http://youtu.be/qRlry5KH6I0
04-13-12  01:17pm

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badandy400 (103) REPLY TO #20 - jberryl69 :

In that case, not prepared enough.

That is certainly a risk that would be involved in it. There are holsters that are very difficult for other to remove the weapon from, but are not 100%.

Not every situation ha such a risk. Being in a hand to hand fight with someone it is certainly possible. Ideally you are either able to draw and fire before they get to you, or the weapon can remain concealed until you deem it appropriate to use. When a gun enters a fight it will be used. That is were training becomes paramount.

In home defense situations it is not all the likely unless you are moving about the house and they surprise you in a hallway. Then it becomes similar to a street fight. Most situations there is a little distance involved, otherwise you would not be able to get to your weapon as you are not likely to be carrying it in your home. If I know someone is coming I will have heavily armed and, if have a little time, armored. In this event I have 30 rounds ready to go and 100 more in banana clips. There was a woman on the news a few month back who called 911 looking for permission to kill to men who were trying to intrude on her home. She had more than 15 minutes before they got in. Will not always have that much time obviously, but she had enough time to hole up and the two intrudes stood no chance against her shotgun.

You take a chance either way when choosing to not have a weapon and choosing to have a weapon. But when you do carry you know you have it and what you need to do. Someone who is legally armed does not look for a fight, because they know they have the power to end it quickly and decisively.

You are 100% correct though, being armed is a blessing and a burden all at the same time.

04-13-12  03:11pm

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jberryl69 (12) REPLY TO #22 - badandy400 :

You wrote, "You are 100% correct though, being armed is a blessing and a burden all at the same time." and I would like to point out that is not what I said. I said I did not own a firearm so I don't have to deal with it in those terms.

That is not a judgement or value judgement, just a clarification of my position.

I love the smell left by a fired weapon, which I believe I mentioned somewhere else. Fireworks too. I'm not afraid of them and while I would be crappy with my current knowledge in cleaning a gun, I find them somewhat interesting.

I suspect that when guns were first introduced to a conquered people, it must have been a real mind fnck to them. I was always amazed how rifle fired object could start to tumble and rip asunder a target.

Well, so much for my musings. Don't let my clarification detract from expressing your view.

04-13-12  09:38pm

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badandy400 (103) REPLY TO #23 - jberryl69 :

"You are 100% correct though, being armed is a blessing and a burden all at the same time."

Was a direct response to:

"What do they call you when your weapon gets taken away from and you're killed? Even happens to cops."

Gun were certainly a game changer.

Survival of the fittest had a change in meaning. It became less about physical strength and much more about technological abilities. When the Germans invade Russia, the Russian Red Guard was sent. They are like the current day SEALS, while not the same as the SEALS, their abilities were like comparing a normal current person to a SEAL. These were fighting machines with amazing training. And the were sent after a group of Germans that were old, wore men from the first World War. The Russian Red guard was slaughtered by these old, tired Germans. This fight was not hand to hand, in which case the Guard would have had a dominating victory, no, the Germans had machine guns and simply mowed down the charging Guard force. This is one of my favorite examples of how technology can change the tides of war.

04-14-12  11:32am

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jberryl69 (12) REPLY TO #24 - badandy400 :

I can see how you might have surmised that from what I said, but mostly I meant that I read sometime that people lose their weapons to others that tend to ram them up their snout (sorry - just love certain lyrics by Frank Zappa) which most was suppose to be taken as they are fncking dangerous in those situations.

Like the Judge. Even though I find it interesting, having to wait till you see the white's of their eyes sounds dicey at best. I'm not sure that as I was peeing my pants if it just wouldn't slip out of my hand. Or... maybe I'm making too big a deal of it.

But what leads me to that, is after getting out of the service in 1970 and thinking about how dam lucky I was not to have to fire my weapon in protecting my personal space. I just could not imagine how I would have coped with someone trying to kill me. True, it's all projection, but at that point self preservation in that circumstance would have driven me nutz.

So I've always had a healthy respect for fire arms, but have kept them at arms length as far as owning one goes. Well, I did have a 410 shotgun when I was 10, but that hardly constituted ownership since it was locked in a cabinet and my dad had the key. It was only opened on special occasions for hunt details.

But look BA-400, I appreciate the dialogue.

04-14-12  11:46am

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badandy400 (103) REPLY TO #25 - jberryl69 :

I suspect that if the situation came up where you needed to defend yourself or your comrades you would have done so without much thought. Then later that night you would have had reality sink in. I am glad for you sake this never became a factor.

Personal defense is different from military engagements. In battles the average firefight has several hundred yards between the opposing sides. Obviously there are close range ambushes and urban warfare, but both of these can include or transition to 400 yard engagements. So there you were likely carrying the M-16 (hopefully M-16A), or perhaps AK-47 depending on where you are from.

In personal defense there are not long range engagements. The fights are very intimate. The "whites of the eyes" hold true for legal personal defense as well. If I am 200 feet away from you and you shoot me, you are going to prison. They will say you could/should have attempted to leave the situation. Now if I am 15 feet away with a gun, or I am thrusting a knife into your liver, you have every right to shoot and to shoot to kill. This situation t a weapon like The Judge becomes an amazing defense powerhouse. A this range, the legal range, it will stop any man in his tracks. The gun is great because it forces you to wait until lethal force becomes legal (potentially). You can not shoot someone 200 feet away with any success using the shot shells, and you also can not accidentally kill a bystander that is 200 feet away. For home defense it is great because it has less wall penetration than a slug would carry.

04-20-12  10:04pm

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jberryl69 (12) REPLY TO #26 - badandy400 :

Yes, point taken and I concur with your assessment. For its intended purpose, the Judge seems like something one could recommend to anyone interested in personal defense.

I found this interesting quote from Wiki - "the Judge is considered a short-barreled shotgun under California state law, which has a broader definition of "short-barreled shotgun," and the Judge is thus illegal to possess in that state."

Prices range from $400 - $750.

Which brings up the next question, which of the four models or so would you recommend?

04-23-12  10:58am

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yote78 (5) Yes, I have my Grandfather's antique .306. but I haven't fired it in years.

Although I fully support sane, reasonable gun-control laws, I also firmly believe in the right of private citizens to own firearms. The last thing we want as a society is for all the guns to be in the possession of the police and the military. That's a sure path to tyranny.

There's far too many guns out there and far too many "nuts" of every political and social bent, at least in the U.S. But I still believe that firearm ownership should be limited as little as possible. If that sounds contradictory, it's because it is...

04-28-12  09:41am

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steffj (0) We live in a very rural area with dangerous wildlife. Both my husband and I have pistols and rifles for protection. We have no desire to be bear or mountain lion bait or dinner!!!
04-30-12  11:31am

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marcdc1 (163) Have my dad's old .22 But haven't had the chance to get out to the range in forever. Never been much of a hunter (can't sit still that long!)
08-11-12  05:23am

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