Ordinarily I'd challenge someone who gave a score of 100 but I won't do that here for two reasons: 1) I know how great a site it is since I scored it at 97, and 2) you gave more than enough reasons to justify the perfect score. I agree with you that ALS Scan does EVERYTHING well. The porn is incredible, the site is logical, the downloads are easy and fast, the resolutions are better than usual in the industry and they provide all of this for a low price. I'm a big fan of their location shoots in the Caribbean. Those are hot and playful at the same time.
Have they ever shot more European public nudity stuff? The last time I was a member there were no new scenes like that. I'd love to see more of that since high quality public nudity is hard to find and this was some of the best I've ever seen.
Did you watch any of the b/g hardcore videos? If so, how are they? Are they artcore/glamcore or harder? Are there many b/g hardcore videos?
Finally, your account of the level of customer service that you got is inspiring. In a business where getting any response is unusual to get this level of service is amazing.
I agree that the upsells are what causes the site to lose a lot of credibility. But the baffling thing is that they don't need the upsells. They have an incredibly good product that sells itself. And the problem that many report with the upsells is that you don't even get a warning that you're heading into extra-cost territory. I didn't experience that. The one add-on I did buy was clearly an extra cost.
It seems telling that everyone here has either a positive or negative experience with BB. There is no one who seems to just a have a middle-of-the-road experience. And those who have had problems all link them back to billing issues. I shouldn't get too comfortable though, I will have to keep an eye on my credit card for the next while.
Latina Rampage does exist. I'm fairly sure it's part of the basic membership but I can't be 100% sure because I can't separate out the "SuperPack" that I added on. Latina Rampage has 114 scenes but the last one they added was in January 2012 so it is one of the sites that isn't updating.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
- A mega-site that still manages to get specialties right
- Something for everyone
- 2-3 updates per day
- Broad spectrum of niches
- Many different types of models
- Logically laid out site
- Many complaints of misleading practices
- Links time out very quickly (2-3 minutes)
- Not all sites update
Bangbros seems to be the most polarizing of the mega sites that gets reviewed here, and it doesnít really have to be that way. The sites included with the basic network are large, many (but not all) are updating regularly and all offer some great porn. But working against BB is the perception of misleading signups and shady billing practices. It seems unreasonable to me that BB isnít aware of these concerns since the misleading signups are obviously a choice they made (and the billing flows from that) and if they are aware of the concerns, it baffles me why a site of this calibre would continue to do that.
BB really needs no introduction, but Iíll add a quick one in case someone has just discovered internet porn. BB is a large network of sites, which isnít unique, that offers sites catering to just about any niche a member could be interested in. Anal? Lesbian? Big breasts? Reality? Glory Holes? Theyíre all here. What sets BB apart from most other mega-sites is that (at least in all the niches I downloaded) they are done really well. So many other mega-sites have a feel of a low-cost buffet where your appetite will be sated but you wonít rave about the quality. In the niches I viewed I was pleasantly surprised to see that just because the network covers so many niches that they still seem to be able to understand what makes good porn within a specific niche. For example, I love both anal sites and glory hole sites and the BB sites Mr. Anal and Glory Hole Loads are among the best of each niche that Iíve seen. Each could easily be a stand-alone site and still have value. I have every reason to believe that the same thing applies to the niche sites that Iím not interested in.
The other great thing about BB is that they offer models from a range of ages, body types and ethnicities. The models also range from A-listers to relatively unknowns.
Iím going to break with my own convention of providing a lot of detail in a review because I donít want to risk misleading anyone. The reason for this is that I added an optional ďSuperPackĒ of sites that appears in the scenes available to me. To give the number of scenes available would include those and mislead someone who buys the basic membership. But donít let me mislead anyone in the other direction either: the basic membership includes thousands of scenes. For a first-timer or a recurring member there is real value here.
The site started adding HD videos in January 2009. Prior to that the videos were available in WMV (852x480, 1500kb/s), and MP4 (720x404, 1000kb/s and 852x480, 1500kb/s). The HD videos are in MP4 and come in at 1280X720 at 3000kb/s. Those arenít the best the industry has to offer, but they look good on both a monitor and a 50Ē TV.
The network is logically laid out and has a search function and also uses tags. I canít speak for the effectiveness of those, as Iíll explain.
Perhaps the biggest issue with the network is their apparent use of misleading upgrades. Many PU members have reported that all they have done is click on a thumbnail and ended up joining something that they didnít intend to join Ė and being billed for it. I have good reason to think that this is an accurate description of what can happen, so in the interests of providing a public service Iíll make four recommendations:
ē If you only subscribed to the main network, when you go to the main page ONLY click on the link to the ďBang Bros Pack.Ē Thatís what you bought and paid for. Clicking on any other link MAY cause you to join that site.
ē When youíre in the BB Pack that you bought, be extra careful about using the search function and tags as these MAY bring you scenes in a site outside your pack. Opening that scene MAY cause you to be signed up.
ē Keep your joining email Ė it will provide you a link to a site where you can cancel. (This worked for the main network for me, but I did need more effort to cancel the add-on even though I had the right link.)
ē If you donít want to be rebilled plan to cancel a bit earlier than usual in case you have problems. Your membership will still be active until the end of the subscription Ė at least it was for me. (I should also add that even though I had problems cancelling the add-on it was quick and effective.)
One other minor issue is that while download managers seem to be permitted, the short life of the links make it impossible to use a manager to queue downloads. Links die after 2-3 minutes, so even with a fast speed (I saw 11MB/s regularly) queuing more than two HD scenes wasnít worth it.
So would I recommend this site? Absolutely. They are among the best Ė and maybe the best Ė mega-site on the internet today. They offer something for all but the most extreme tastes, and what they offer is top-quality. The website is logically laid out and easy to use. My bottom line with BB is much like it would be for a lot of sexual activities: have fun, but go in with your eyes open and use protection.
I should add, in the interest of fairness, that my email received a response that was quick and effective. My advice to anyone joining an add-on here is to keep you joining email for any information you may need to cancel. I did, and though that didn't work I suspect that having all that information to provide in an email helped out.
I added on a group of sites called the "SuperPack" to my BB membership. I received an email with the joining information (with the same username and password as my main membership) and with a link for customer service that was different from my main membership. I followed the link to cancel the SuperPack membership and it's the same page as the main site where you have to select which site you want to cancel but "SuperPack" isn't listed. My confirmation email said I joined through Dancing Bear (which is part of the Pack) but the site said I didn't have a membership there.
Also, there is a two-part captcha where one part of it has to be the most difficult to decipher that I've ever seen.
I haven't had any billing issues, but my advice is to cancel any add-ons early in case you have problems. I've sent them and email and I'm hoping that cancellation isn't a more of a problem than it is already.
I strongly agree with you - download limits seems to be a way to annoy that people who actually buy memberships. But if the limit remains as high as I found it (only when downloading the HD videos) then I can at least live with it. But I do wish RK was more clear about it.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
- 42 sites (though not all are updating)
- Several unique niches
- Excellent mainstream porn
- Supports download managers
- Good mix of models
- Good mix of niches
- TBP / PU discount
- Vague daily download limit
- Some sites no longer updating
- No active anal site on network
I had been a member here before and liked the network but didnít like the daily download limit. What I didnít like most about that limit was how vague and even arbitrary it seemed. Some members reported not encountering the limit, while other like me were cut off well before the limit stated in the siteís terms. The limit is still there, and itís still vague, but I didnít hit the limit often despite downloading a lot (Iíll explain that) and the network does offer some excellent porn.
The site is logically laid out with the main page showing all of the network updates available. There is a tab that brings you to a page with links to the specific sites. Each site has its own page that looks like the home page. There is a useful search function in that you can enter a term and a drop-down menu appears with some suggestions that you may be looking for.
The network offers a really good mix of models and niches. There really is something here for most tastes: legal teens, MILFs, big breasts, big assess, women of color, party sites, girl/girl and anal. There is also a good mix of models with some big names and some lesser-knowns.
The biggest difference for me this time was that I only downloaded HD scenes. There are four download options: WMV, and three MD4s (low medium and HD). I didnít sample any other resolutions but the HD scenes are 1920x1080, 10,000kb/s and 29fps. Streaming is also available (no options on resolution) and clips are available too. There are also both pics and screencaps as singles or zips.
The network has 42 sites. To save me from adding details to each PU page, here are some basic details. Iíve grouped them by when they update and the number indicates how many scenes there are currently:
This is a personal opinion, but Iím disappointed that they no longer update VIP Crew and Bikini Crashers. Iím a big fan of party sites and these were well done. (In the VIP still updates, but the dead sites offered some twists.) Iím particularly disappointed that Captain Stabbin is no longer active. With this site no longer updating, RK is in an odd position of no longer having an anal-themed site on its network.
The network started adding the HD option in September 2010 so if you insist on HD youíll still have access to almost 700 scenes. Keep in mind that the advantage to the HD scenes apart from quality is that you can download more before hitting the daily limit. One drawback is that that many of the files are large, coming in at more than 2GB.
The site supports download managers and I had no obvious problems with time-outs.
While RK isnít the only site on the internet to impose a daily download limit, they are unique in having one that seems vague and random at the same time. The limit is imposed differently if you are downloading HD or SD videos. If you opt for HD files, as I did, the limit was very reasonable, but since it was also higher than what is set out in the siteís terms and conditions document that may not always be the case. The siteís terms state that a member may ďdownload up to 10 gigabytes of data each day, and additionally up to 15 Ďbigí movies as defined in Manwin Billing's sole discretion.Ē The last time I was a member here I downloaded SD files and would be cut off at 8 to 10GB per day. This time I took only HD files and could usually get 30 or more files (at an average of 1GB each) before I was off. So while there is a limit, if this is how itís being used then it isnít too big an issue.
The last time I reviewed RK I scored it much lower and that was solely because of the download limit and my perception that I should avoid HD because of that limit. This time around I took only HD and the limit for those is almost reasonable. This is a huge network with a lot of great porn that is easily accessed. Apart from my general opposition to limits and my subjective wish that three of the sites were still active I can still recommend RK as long as a prospective member knows what to expect. Itís a lot of excellent porn for the money, especially considering the TBP discount.
This is a great addition to all the other information on Bangbros. They have some good stuff so I often feel compelled to join, but it is a minefield where one wrong click could end up costing you.
What I really don't get is why they do this. That have some excellent porn and probably make a decent profit so why alienate your customers like this? Surely having confident customers who aren't worried that you're trying to fleece them is a better business model than the one they currently use.
This looks like an interesting site, but the fact that it is streaming only is a deal-breaker for me. I hate when site penalize paying customers to thwart piracy. I don't know what the solution is, but surely it can't be pissing off the people who actually do want to buy your stuff.
Thanks for the comment. I think that Mason, who has a reputation as a great porn director, left Elegant Angel and started both Erotica X and Hard X. It is some great porn. The TBP listing says that they offer a two day trial. My advice is to try that first. With a few spare hours you could download a lot.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
- New studio site
- Affiliated with Open Life and Erotica X
- All scenes directed by Mason
- Supports download managers
- Many choices for viewing scenes
- TBP / PU discount
- Several Ďfirstsí
- Small site for now
- Videos arenít associated with the DVDs they appear in
Hard X is both a new studio and new website that features videos from the studio. The studio (and site) feature scenes directed by Mason, formerly from the Elegant Angel studio. Itís also a sister site to Masonís other studio/site Erotica X. Obviously the scenes at Hard X have a much harder edge than those at Erotica X. In my opinion, Mason is one of the best directors in the business. She brings a unique feel to her scenes and brings out the best in her performers.
One of the reasons Iíve been waiting impatiently for this site to go live was that Mason has brought a number of Ďfirstsí here. Iím a big fan of anal scenes and Hard X made a (justifiably) big deal over the first anal scenes for Maddy OíReilly and Annika Albrite. The site promises more in the future too.
Iíll deal with the major negative element first, since it will likely be a deal-breaker for some potential members. Because the studio is new they donít have a big catalogue yet, so the site is small too. There are currently only 30 scenes available. Since the site only launched last week I canít verify an update schedule, though the site itself has an Ďupcomingí tab and that shows a new scene being added per week. Yes, I know that seems slow, but this is a new studio and they donít have a lot to offer yet. A potential member will have to make his or her own decision on value, but with the TBP / PU discount I think this is a great value. I think that this isnít Ďcommodity porní but is unique and uses A-list models in scenes with high production values. I like to think of sites like this (and Erotica X too) as high-end steakhouses in a world of greasy buffets. (And yes, I realize that my analogy is unflattering.) TBP reports that the site also offers a full 2-day trial. This would be an incredible value for someone who just wanted to check out what the site has to offer.
The other negative is probably more subjective, but when Iím on a studio site I prefer that the videos be grouped by DVD title or capable of being sorted that way. For some reason, Hard X doesnít do that. I hope as the site grows they add a ďDVDĒ tab.
The site is well laid out with four scene per page, each with one large screenshot and two smaller ones. The scenes are titled with the modelís name in the title. There are tags for specific niches and the modelís name is a tag too. Each scene opens into its own page where you have all of the same information and brief description of the scene too.
As with all Open Life sites, there are a range of options for viewing and downloading the scenes. Streaming is available in seven resolutions ranging from 160p to 1080p. Downloads are available in WMV format (160p, 240p, 360p and 480p) and MP4 format (160p, 240p, 360p, 480p, 540p, 720p and 1080p). I downloaded the 720p and those are 1080x720 at 4800kb/s and 29fps. They look crisp and show no pixilation. Those files are, on average, about 1.3GB in size.
I had no problems using a download manager to queue up the scenes I wanted. There were no unreasonable time-outs on the links and my downloads hit and sustained the maximum speed that my manager allows (11mb/s).
The bottom line is that I highly recommend that you check this site out of you like hardcore porn with a slightly rough edge. This contrasts well with its sister site where the hardcore is softer and more couples-oriented. The site offers some excellent porn with some of the biggest names in adult these days. The site is well organized and logical. There are lots of options for viewing or downloading the scene too. When you add it up and apply the TBP discount I think this is a great value. As the site grows, it will become an even better value.
I've never been a member at this site and likely never will be. I was surprised at the number of people who reported the same problems over and over. And I was really surprised that the webmaster seemed so concerned and involved yet nothing ever got resolved. If it was the site, shame on them. If it was the biller, then the site should have severed that relationship quickly.
The sad part is that this looks like it might be a case of a good and unique site being destroyed by a third-party biller.
Two thumbs up for the TBP/PU staff in deciding to de-list them.
I think you summed up this network best when you wrote that members "have to walk on eggshells virtually across a site to avoid hidden charges or scared of later billing issues." I rejoined last weekend after I swore I never would. I went to the site and literally stared at the page for about two or three minutes until I could figure out where it was likely safe to click. I don't mind up-sells and ads, but when they're this underhanded about billing for them there is no excuse for that. I also made a promise to myself that I'd never pour myself a drink and sit down to view this site - I want all my brain cells firing to avoid a mess here.
They're an excellent site otherwise. It baffles me that they'd want to screw over customers like they do.
I agree that scene length is probably the main factor in them not offering 1920x1080. The file sizes would be huge. As it is, they're large, but some could be near 10GB if they went full 1080p. That would be a huge storage issue for them, and a lot of bandwidth to keep just a few customers happy.
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