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| 02-07-14 03:11pm - 3745 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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biker (0)
Active User  Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
Computer upgrade thoughts I visited my nearby computer store that built my last computer with the intention of buying a new one because old one is running out of memory and is seven years old. The tech looked up the information on my existing computer and suggested just getting some upgrades because I have a good system. He says to add 2g to my ram and go with the Explorer 7. To increase the size of my memory, he recommends an external drive with one terabyte. It adds up to about $300. Anyone every go this direction when you need more from your computer? Warning Will Robinson | |
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| 02-07-14 04:31pm - 3745 days | #2 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
I haven't bought a computer from a store in years. You can buy components that are cheaper and better quality then what you get from the typical name brand computer. Adding RAM or hard drives really isn't the mystery it once was. There are any number of tech forums and online videos that can walk a newbie through the steps to upgrading. If you do go the tech forum route, be advised that someone will tell you that you're confusing memory with storage. RAM is your memory, the external hard drive that was recommended is storage. Are you sure you were told to go with Explorer 7 and not Windows 7? For most people, W7 is probably a good option. Support for XP is ending this year and Vista sucked ass. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 02-07-14 05:45pm - 3745 days | #3 | |
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EverNight (0)
Disabled User Posts: 23 Registered: Jan 16, '14 |
If your PC is 7 years old I recommend buying a new one online from Dell or whoever you like. Don't stress to much over which one, I'm confident they'll all exceed your needs in terms of performance. You can add additional external drives at any time if you find you need it. There too you are better off purchasing on-line. I can recommend newegg.com as an excellent place to buy computer parts such as external drives. Once you find what you want you can compare prices w/ Amazon which sometimes beats out newegg. CPUs are designed with a life expectancy of ~10 years and and you will benefit from a new Windows operating system that will be included as part of that purchase. In my opinion it is not worth putting money into upgrades of old computer hardware. Edited on Feb 07, 2014, 05:53pm | |
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| 02-08-14 06:47am - 3744 days | #4 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
Please take what I write with a grain of salt since I'm not tech expert. My thought would be the same as what EverNight wrote: buy a new PC. My thought is that if you just make some upgrade you still have a lot that can fail. Your power supply, for example, may be strained by new components and fail. Any one of other components could do the same. Most manufacturers sell off-the-shelf computers that will serve most purposes well for very little money. So unless you need a high-horsepower PC for some specific purpose I'd buy new. | |
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| 02-08-14 09:33am - 3744 days | #5 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
All good suggestions. A new Dell in the $800 - $900 range will give you enough for another 7 years. Go to Dell.com and price out a XPS 8700. Click on Performance Systems, then click the system on the left ($699.99) and at least change Operating System to Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English but also look at the Memory tab. Four years is the avg upgrade time I believe on systems. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 02-08-14 10:10am - 3744 days | #6 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I think that the cheapest option is by default going the upgrade route but since your computer is 7 years old and I don't think it will last another seven then buying a new one is the best long term solution. Mind you if you can find a nice computer store that builds their own systems then you could probably get a computer that doesn't have all of the most recent parts in it but could have last years motherboard and what not for a decent amount. I'm not comfortable with going the Dell or any massed produced computer route because I prefer to pick and choose what parts go in my computer. This way I can pick a better video and sound card than what is normally included on most motherboard. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 02-08-14 11:39am - 3744 days | #7 | |
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EverNight (0)
Disabled User Posts: 23 Registered: Jan 16, '14 |
I would encourage you to think differently about this because the parts that go into such computers are more thoroughly tested to work well together than a single person could ever hope to do on their own. Also unless you play the latest 3D video games on your PC, there is no reason to be concerned about what video card it has or if its just onboard video. Anything from the last few years can EASILY handle anything you'd do otherwise. And as far as sound cards, those are relics. There hasn't been anything new in that space for a long time. Long past are the days where it made sense to have a sound card. Any onboard audio is capable of doing everything you'd want. And it is trivial to add a card later if you want, but that's very unlikely for most people. And even less so for someone thinking about keeping a 7 year old machine. Another MAJOR advantage the average person gets from buying a PC from a manufacturer is the included software. That software would cost many hundreds of dollars if you had to buy it yourself. When you factor that in the value from building a PC diminishes greatly, again for the average person. Edited on Feb 08, 2014, 11:53am | |
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| 02-08-14 12:59pm - 3744 days | #8 | |
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Reveen (0)
Active User Posts: 96 Registered: Apr 06, '09 |
Can you give some examples of bundled software that would add up to that much? If you mean stuff like MS Office, you can get free equivalents like OpenOffice that do just as good a job. At least when you build yourself you can keep things lean and not have your computer stuffed with bloatware. If you open up a typical Dell pc you'd see that they use the cheapest parts possible and the cooling tends to be as basic as possible. I built a gaming pc for my nephew recently, the parts and OS together came to about $800 and it would better than an equivalently priced Dell. Of course I didn't charge for for my labour and time which would have put the price up  | |
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| 02-08-14 02:06pm - 3744 days | #9 | |
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EverNight (0)
Disabled User Posts: 23 Registered: Jan 16, '14 |
Open Office may very well satisfy your needs but is not really an equivalent. It's bare bones in comparison. And yes, the parts are tested to be exactly what they need to be, no more. They don't use crazy enthusiast heat sinks, power supplies and such. However I do not wish to get into a technical discussion. I am purposely oversimplifying my comments because getting into excessive detail will not help the original poster (biker), or most people for that matter. There's what's best and then there's what's best for a particular person. Given the poster's scenario & knowledge level my recommendation stands. Were I advising you (Reveen) my answer would likely be different. Though you are likely knowledgeable enough to make reasonable judgments for yourself. | |
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| 02-08-14 03:22pm - 3744 days | #10 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
I understand Pat's position though I would think there was no warranty available or a limited one. Also I've been using Dell for about 20 years over several systems and I have no complaint about the performance (you get what you pay for) nor the length of service. And while the price range I posted was of good quality and the type of computer I would purchase ... well did purchase. But everyone is going to have their own opinion and way they want to go, so either upgrading or a purchase of a new one, ends up being the purchasers prerogative. .... and I wish him good hunting. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 02-08-14 04:02pm - 3744 days | #11 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
I've been using a Dell desktop PC for the past 5+ years. It's been absolutely rock solid - excellent machine, and my longest lasting yet. Inside is beautifully built and all the components are good brands. I'm in the UK so not sure if that makes any difference? Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 02-08-14 04:14pm - 3744 days | #12 | |
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jook (0)
Active User  Posts: 325 Registered: Dec 22, '13 Location: jersey city |
Long ago I used to have my computers custom built. I happened to know someone who did it for a reasonable cost and I wanted the best sound system available and needed an unusual amount of HD space. I find I can now customize an off the shelf computer to suit my needs, but I do understand that others still may have special priorities which they can't get from off the shelf computers. I don't think the question is about which computer company makes a better computer, though biker would have to chime in on that. It's about special needs. Just out of curiosity, biker, would you care to share why you need a custom computer? And screw you guys, has anyone heard of Apple? -) | |
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| 02-08-14 04:36pm - 3744 days | #13 | |
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biker (0)
Active User Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
/\ It's not that I need a custom computer, but the place that I have been buying from simply builds a computer to your needs. I told them I download a lot and play some serious computer games. The computer I have now is working, but when I am in the middle of a game it begins to lag. My hard drive is also filling up. I should delete a lot of crap I don't bother to look at anymore, but I'm lazy. I will probably delete a lot when I transfer files to the external drive they suggested. That is why they suggested the external drive and just adding some upgrades besides going with Windows 7 now that XP is not going to be supported anymore. Beyond that they feel my system should continue to work fine for a few more years. The changes to my computer will be a little over $200 and the external drive is about $90. The drive is something I will probably buy no matter what direction I go. Warning Will Robinson Edited on Feb 08, 2014, 04:39pm | |
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| 02-08-14 05:44pm - 3744 days | #14 | |
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jook (0)
Active User Posts: 325 Registered: Dec 22, '13 Location: jersey city |
In that case, my personal opinion would be to buy an off the shelf computer. Most computers will fit your needs for not much more money plus you'll have up to date components and a warranty. While I've never been a big Dell fan, you can't beat it for the money. We use Dells at work and they serve our purposes fine. I understand customer support stinks though I've never had problems with any of their computers and no need to call. If you go on the site dell.com, you can customize a computer to a pretty large extent. Why do you want Windows 7? I understand Windows 8 is far superior. I'm no expert since I use Apple OSX at home, but Windows 8 seems a whole lot better judging from use at work. As for external drives, I bought my first bare drives recently along with a docking bay. I'll never go back to enclosed external drives. I am far from a computer whiz, but if a moron like me can figure it out, anyone can... just insert the drive into the bay. If you buy a multi-drive bay, you'll have plenty of room for expansion. For example, my docking bay can hold four 4TB drives. You almost definitely don't need that now nor do I, but before you know it, you might. Dollar for dollar, it comes out much cheaper. | |
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| 02-08-14 07:03pm - 3743 days | #15 | |
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EverNight (0)
Disabled User Posts: 23 Registered: Jan 16, '14 |
Windows 8 is technically superior to Windows 7, however not by a huge amount. The UI changes made to 8 upset some people though as is always the case whenever things change. The free upgrade to 8.1 and the next update which I believe will be out in April largely address those issues though. Overall I think people would be best served getting the newest version they can. | |
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| 02-09-14 11:55pm - 3742 days | #16 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
If you play serious computer games, I am a bit surprised a 7-year old computer is up to snuff, unless your system was crazy good to begin with, but even then I assume you run really low frame rates? If you actually need a computer to run modern games well (at a decent frame rate), you probably would want to get a new computer, and likely a relatively decent system like the XPS jberry mentioned above, or at least one with a discrete graphics card. If you don't play graphics intensive games, almost any modern computer would be fine for you, and you could probably get one for under $500. I would recommend getting an SSD as a boot drive, as they significantly increase performance on any system, and you can now get 120g SSDs for less than $100 regularly. I prefer Win7 to 8, but that is mostly just because I find the 8 interface annoying and more difficult to work with given what I do for work, but I have many friends that prefer 8, so just use what you like. I generally agree with most of what EverNight has advised you, although I don't know that you get a whole lot of value with "included software", as getting a copy of Win7 or 8 is relatively cheap, and office is generally an add on at most online manufacturers like Dell (which you pay pretty much the same as you would have paid for it otherwise). Building your own isn't a bad option, especially if you are a gamer, although I haven't built a computer in years since I exclusively use laptops these days, it wasn't really that hard. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 02-10-14 01:23am - 3742 days | #17 | ||
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EverNight (0)
Disabled User Posts: 23 Registered: Jan 16, '14 |
It's been a long time since I've looked at Dell, & you're right they don't include what they used to so I definitely overstated the value of the software you get. But you do get an OEM copy of Windows (which would have cost about $100) installed on a new machine. That's useful because it's easier to copy files from the old machine to the new one than to install over an existing machine that has files you want to keep on the OS drive. Plus there's lots of benefits to keeping the old machine around a while. It's very easy to think you've got everything off an old machine until a week later you realize you forgot something.
I thought that sounded odd too. Edited on Feb 10, 2014, 01:30am | ||
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| 02-11-14 11:15pm - 3740 days | #18 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
I agree it is nice to get an OEM copy of Windows, and I am sure there is some associated discount since the manufacturer is bulk-buying. I don't really find data transfer to be that big of a deal anymore, most folks have backups on externals, I typically have very little actual data I would need to move on my laptop if I got a new one. Of course, it is not hard to find a "free" copy of Win8  Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 02-13-14 10:43am - 3739 days | #19 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
In an upgrade with movies in mind. VIDEO CARD, think processor speed not dram size. And 10 gig video card does very little compared to a 4gig with a fast processor. I would go with Win7 Ultimate64 Since 2007 | |
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| 02-13-14 05:53pm - 3739 days | #20 | |
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anyonebutme (0)
Active User  Posts: 294 Registered: Aug 23, '09 |
Unless you "found" a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate for "no cost", there is no benefit for a home user to pay extra for this version. The only benefit to Win7 Pro for home users is remote desktop, and if you don't care about that then save the cash and go with Win7 Home. | |
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| 02-13-14 05:58pm - 3739 days | #21 | |
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anyonebutme (0)
Active User Posts: 294 Registered: Aug 23, '09 |
As for the topic of the thread, don't know if this site's operators wants me pointing people to a particular retailer - good off-lease refurbs can be purchased anywhere from $130 to $250 depending on the particular model and come with a Windows 7 license. Just add in a video card for gaming, they are all set to go, very little labor involved. There is little advantage to upgrading existing hardward, especially when a whole new Windows version is involved. I'd recommend going cheap on this upgrade, in a few years you likely will be wanting to upgrade to a laptop. Don't rack up the charges on a "7 year desktop purchase." Edited on Feb 13, 2014, 06:01pm | |
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| 02-13-14 06:20pm - 3739 days | #22 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I tend to disagree, I have had both 7 and ultimate and the tools available make it much easier to get things done. Thats a huge stretch NO BENIFIT ?? For more reasons then I can state here Win7 64 is superior. So I am going to strongly disagree. Since 2007 | |
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| 02-13-14 07:49pm - 3738 days | #23 | |
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KET924aab (0)
Active User Posts: 60 Registered: Dec 18, '12 Location: California, USA |
Biker, here is a thought about external hard drives. I use them exclusively for porn storage, because if my computer should happen to need repair, then I can take it in to a shop without having to worry about the tech finding porn on it. Also, if family members (nieces, nephews) come over to visit, it is easy to disconnect them and put them in a safe spot. Now, if I can just figure out how to stop Chrome from showing my favorite porn sites when it loads up! | |
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| 02-13-14 08:50pm - 3738 days | #24 | |
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biker (0)
Active User Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
I live alone and I'm not concerned about a computer tech seeing my porn. but have an external drive seems a safer way to protect a person's porn if anything serious does happen to your computer. I am beginning to lean towards getting a new computer so I have the most update feature and hardware. Warning Will Robinson | |
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| 02-14-14 07:11am - 3738 days | #25 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Well biker - you have to admit, you're going to have to buy a new computer some day. The only question there is when. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 02-14-14 04:13pm - 3738 days | #26 | |
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biker (0)
Active User Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
I know. My mind keeps switching. Adding upgrades to my existing computer is cheap, but how long will that last as the technology keeps moving forward. I just wish that with the new systems they would add software that made my older games compatible. Every time I buy a new computer, one or more of my games won't function anymore. But if you buy a new game the old system is not capable of handling it. You can't win. Warning Will Robinson | |
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| 02-14-14 07:42pm - 3737 days | #27 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
Home premium has a 64bit version, I think all computers except netbooks and tablets come with this version. 64bit is basically a requirement for modern computers these days, due to RAM limitations on 32bit. I was under the impression that ultimate was more intended for enterprise stuff, but I could be wrong. I use Win7 Pro, but that is just because I got a free license from my job (and it has some features that I need for said job), but I don't think the typical user needs anything better than Home Premium, or Pro at the most, Ultimate seems like a waste of $100 unless you get a great price. biker, if your concern is not being able to play old games, couldn't you just make a dual boot PC with XP and 7/8? Or is it a modern video card comp. problem? I would just get a new one off the shelf, just make sure the power supply can handle a half-decent video card (many of the cheaper models have really lousy power supplies) Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. Edited on Feb 14, 2014, 07:46pm | |
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| 02-24-14 01:14pm - 3728 days | #28 | |
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biker (0)
Active User Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
Just ordered a new computer with Windows 7 and bought a Toshiba 1TB external drive. Want to thank everyone for your advice on what direction to to take. Downloading all my files from my old computer into my external drive at this moment.  Betty Page wants to thank you too. Warning Will Robinson Edited on Feb 24, 2014, 01:19pm | |
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