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02-09-19  09:32am - 1927 days #494
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Well, after careful thought. I decided this is not the place for me any longer. I could careless about all the excuses given by staff. They are ruining what work many of us put into this website.

When PU sold, it did so because of the value many of us put in to this site for over a decade. That is something many of my fellow members are missing. The site only has what little value left because we put our hard work into. New owners walk in as they always do, think they know better and fuck everything up.

I am glad my fellow members are OK with the site and have confidence in the new owners. Not this member is like a barrel of fucking monkeys. Who probably could do a better job. I do not buy for one second they give two shits about all the work we put into reviews and the community.


Ive said enough, I wish you all well. But I'm gone. Not going to bother wasting my time. This place can not be trusted if the reviews can not be either. Only the select long term members would i ever trust, it seems now the site wants numbers no matter how they get them.

To all my fellow members, its been a nice ride for 12 years. I wont be back.
To the owners and Administrators, thanks for fucking things up and ruining what once was awesome website.

Bye all closing my account after this post and I won't be back. Since 2007

02-08-19  06:29pm - 1927 days #489
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Originally Posted by mbaya:




By the way reviews on Amazon are a joke. There have been numerous cases where people have been paid to post fake reviews.

I am in the top 5K of reviewers at Amazon, been a member since the beginning. I have been given gifts, and offered all sorts of stuff to do a review. I will admit I did do a couple, but I told them I wouldn't lie about the review though.

I used to Trust the PU site, I do not trust the reviews at all since being under new management. And is why I stopped giving stats and gave a more personal touch.
Which didn't matter, if staff is allowing trolls to openly abuse the site.

Its going to take allot to gain my trust back, gees dare I say I trust Rabbit more? I I think they are hacks.

Perhaps PU is not meant to be, guess we will see but not spending my hard earned cash here until I see results. I have a couple reviews coming from sites I am a member at now, but after that I may stop until things improve. Since 2007

02-08-19  12:40pm - 1927 days #95
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


I could not agree more. There is a comment written by an obvious out in the open troll. What does it take to get it deleted? I added a reply that said exactly that.

It was approved, but no action was taken. WTF? Was the comment approved without even reading it?

Another point that I feel obligated to make is concerning complaints that PU is too inclusive. Ok, I get it, lets do what we can to make the site more open.

I revived a thread for new members to introduce themselves. It used to be pinned to the top of the forum listings. Why it is not now is completely beyond me.
Both Mike C and Freddie seem to be committed to rewarding new members to get them to stay and contribute.

Nether one replied to a member who has contributed a first review that was excellent and then took the time to get on the new members thread. WTF? Why not?

You cannot let the site slide downward and then complain that it is not what it should be.



I'm not sure how did think about this website at this point, I think about the hard work in the very beginning, and the dedication by staff and members back then everybody worked hard to build a community, to build the form and to provide quality reviews. I would gather tens of thousands of dollars has been spent by members helping to provide quality reviews for this site. But the current administrators, and staff are acting like it doesn't mean anything. They're basically throwing away all the hard work we as members have put into this site as well as the original designers. Personally if I own the website I would fire every one of them they don't deserve to have a cite this dated to run willy-nilly and not even care about what's going on. Since 2007

02-08-19  12:38pm - 1927 days #481
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It's become very clear, the staff is waiting for this site to simply fade away.. They're allowing fraudulent reviews to be posted and not dealing with it. There then giving away prizes to trolls that login twice and do reviews on the same item

.I think the founders of this site would be disgusted by the conduct of the current staff You can ban me if you want to but the truth is if you cared you'd be addressing these issues immediately instead you're more interested in gathering new members then dealing with the problems that exist. makes me wonder if you cannot deal with this with few members that are here still how are you ever going to deal with anything when the site becomes popular which I doubt it will. You're missing every opportunity to correct things and make this a site worth visiting. Your chastising and ignoring the current members been here for over a decade Instead you're doing your own thing ignoring the problems.

PU, is going to go under, you are not adjusting to the current problems that plague most reviewing sites.most sites like this have a high degree of accountability in the items that they review. Here the conduct is deplorable, using the word staff is not even close. The people watching the store here are basically hanging out doing whatever they please and ignoring every rule did in written. If I happened on this website I would fire everybody on my staff right now summon the work trying to train people to donate care. We have been here over 10 years many others because we do give a crap about what happens on this website. It's clear looking at the current staff you have not even 1% of the dedication that we all have put in. I for one am completely disgusted what the site has become it's a laughing stock in a joke if you try to get people to come in here and join to be impossible if you have the same people their writing it right now continuing to do so without any accountability.

It's quite shameful to take such hard work that people took ended designing this website,it took years to make it to what we see today. And the carelessness I see by the current staff and administrators so that they do not care about the direction's website at all. If they had they would've corrected immediately mistakes that are obvious to anybody visiting here. Since 2007

02-08-19  08:25am - 1928 days #93
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Looking at several threads on the difficulties lately, it seems to appear that the operators of both these websites have an extreme difficulty adjusting to any changes.

Looking back even 10 years, there was ideas, projects, and other changes that would be done to the website, or the procedures and time and time again staff seem to have huge amounts of difficulty adjusting to the changes. Not so much the members they seem to be able to roll with it
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So I think having a post like this discussing what is needs to be in the review is not the problem. It's the problem is the staff does not know what is supposed to be in a review apparently based on some of how past reviews that we've been seeing for quite a long time, staff is not aware of their conduct that's needed. We can hardly start a thread to help staff since they are not aware of the difficulties they are having. It's not the members here that have a problem. It's the staff that can simply not adjust to the changes they are making. Which makes no sense at all.

It may seem that I am not very forgiving our understanding, just the opposite if this was a brand-new website starting out for the first time I would be very helpful in understanding about any problems of fledging company has. But this particular company has been around for very long time I am not confident in the way it's being run personally myself right now. I don't trust the reviews because they are spotty and obviously filled out by trolls. The staff is not reviewing the reviews like it should be done. So why would somebody put trust in the reviews that are being done here?

If I look at all the regular members, that you reviews they do them quite well. Always exceptional and detailed. Why staff members could not see the other reviews that vary so greatly that a monkey could fill them out. Yet they don't notice it. Yet now we're supposed to just simply understand that they don't know what they're doing? They forgot what they were supposed to do? I have no idea where this is going. Everyone keeps blaming it on the changes? Meanwhile most of us are simply adapted to it easily. So it's not the process of reviewing needs to be taught to members, the staff also needs to know what is proper in a review and how to identify that quickly. Since 2007

02-07-19  01:28pm - 1928 days #91
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Perhaps all new members, staff could have a link to this area upon joining.

I do not think however those two posts were accidents that didn't know the rules. So having this why helpful wont help unless new people read it lol Since 2007

02-07-19  08:47am - 1929 days #470
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I tried to type some ideas, but the site has always been buggy about losing threads and posts for years even wrote Khan about it way back when. I just lost a whole post. Maybe if I find time later I will re-post it here.


Thoughts I try typing it shorter.

1. New Staff should be a member no less then six months to learn the ropes.

2. Make raffles 2x a month, with a higher prizes, have 5 winners. Make it easier to have time to review the qualifying reviews.

3. Members can only win once a month, changing the above will help rotate members reviews and encourage reviews.

4. Put a word minimum that make sit hard to have trolls like we just did.

5. Pick 5 sites you would like to see reviewed each month, this will encourage members to review less popular sites. Removing the sameness.

6. There needs to be a better reporting system, members caught all these mistakes, not staff and a better reporting system could have avoided this and if you take my ideas on every two weeks it will allow more time to investigate potential fraud/troll.

7. Cut off for reviews in the week prior the Tuesday that had no raffle, that give staff a full week to evaluate the reviews.


My other post had longer explanation, have any questions let me know. Since 2007

02-07-19  08:36am - 1929 days #469
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Originally Posted by MikeC:


Hi Guys,

I hope everyone is enjoying themselves wherever they are are reading this. I see there has been some discussion about this past week's raffle and some potential changes to the raffle rules and, indeed, to PornUsers in general.

I don't want to wade into the specifics of the discussion, but I do want to say that we have been erring on the side of inclusivity when it comes to the reviews and raffle. We are operating in good faith and if a mistake was made we can correct it. We're not looking to ruin people's enjoyment of the forum. Far from it.

Freddie was brought on to the team specifically for community management (i.e PornUsers forum moderation). She has been with us not even three months and is still learning about the Adult industry so she can better create conversations, address your concerns and advocate on your behalf during planning meetings.

In fact, Freddie has been personally emailing former active members of PU from the last few years to find out why they moved away. We have been hearing many similar responses from the former members:
1. The same sites were being reviewed constantly
2. The community was becoming too insular.

If one looks at the review and raffle history over the last six months and it's very easy to see those comments/criticisms as having some validity. Here are some profile names that have won at least one (sometimes more) raffle every month over the last three months
- Dracken
- Skippy
- exotics4me
- mbaya
- marcdc1

We're excited when people contribute to PU and are rewarded for their efforts by winning the raffles. We also know that the general dynamics of forums means that 85% simply lurk and don't comment, 10% occasionally comment and 5% are the hard drivers, the true lifeblood of the community. We appreciate all of the time and effort given by the names above, along with lk2fireone, to keep the community alive. However, if we are to take the criticisms from former members (people who did contribute reviews and forum threads) to heart and we are to get this forum more active again (which, btw, is showing signs of. A lot of names have returned and there's been an marked uptick in new reviews) it means we need to recognize that some changes need to be made, to open things up.


We are not trying to destroy the credibility of PU or anything like that. We wouldn't hire someone specifically for PU if that was our intention. We have some ideas as to how to open things up, but we absolutely want to hear your thoughts on the topic.



I tried to type some ideas, but the site has always been buggy about losing threads and posts for years even wrote Khan about it way back when. I just lost a whole post. See shorter re-post below. Since 2007 Edited on Feb 07, 2019, 08:48am

02-07-19  08:33am - 1929 days #468
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Originally Posted by MikeC:


Hi Guys,

I hope everyone is enjoying themselves wherever they are are reading this. I see there has been some discussion about this past week's raffle and some potential changes to the raffle rules and, indeed, to PornUsers in general.

I don't want to wade into the specifics of the discussion, but I do want to say that we have been erring on the side of inclusivity when it comes to the reviews and raffle. We are operating in good faith and if a mistake was made we can correct it. We're not looking to ruin people's enjoyment of the forum. Far from it.

Freddie was brought on to the team specifically for community management (i.e PornUsers forum moderation). She has been with us not even three months and is still learning about the Adult industry so she can better create conversations, address your concerns and advocate on your behalf during planning meetings.

In fact, Freddie has been personally emailing former active members of PU from the last few years to find out why they moved away. We have been hearing many similar responses from the former members:
1. The same sites were being reviewed constantly
2. The community was becoming too insular.

If one looks at the review and raffle history over the last six months and it's very easy to see those comments/criticisms as having some validity. Here are some profile names that have won at least one (sometimes more) raffle every month over the last three months
- Dracken
- Skippy
- exotics4me
- mbaya
- marcdc1

We're excited when people contribute to PU and are rewarded for their efforts by winning the raffles. We also know that the general dynamics of forums means that 85% simply lurk and don't comment, 10% occasionally comment and 5% are the hard drivers, the true lifeblood of the community. We appreciate all of the time and effort given by the names above, along with lk2fireone, to keep the community alive. However, if we are to take the criticisms from former members (people who did contribute reviews and forum threads) to heart and we are to get this forum more active again (which, btw, is showing signs of. A lot of names have returned and there's been an marked uptick in new reviews) it means we need to recognize that some changes need to be made, to open things up.


We are not trying to destroy the credibility of PU or anything like that. We wouldn't hire someone specifically for PU if that was our intention. We have some ideas as to how to open things up, but we absolutely want to hear your thoughts on the topic.


I appreciate your responses here in addressing the concerns.
If I may make a few suggestions, which one can take or leave, but they are freebies. My Top 5 ideas. I have more but here are 5.


1. New staff, should be required to be a member here six months before their promotion. Let them learn the ropes first. Not knowing some very basic rules here is really unacceptable. Hard to trust staff if the members know more then staff does.

2. Have a simple easy report system this troll/or what ever reviews were caught by members not staff, so how long would they sit there? A better reporting system needs to be in place.

3. Contests are hard to come up with ways that are fair and accurate, I get that. Maybe make the prizes larger and every two weeks. Instead of every week. That would give staff more time to view the qualifying reviews. And maybe do the Top 5 Reviews.

4. Set Set Minimum words in a review. This last snafu showed how easily a review can be posted and qualify, that needs fixing.

5. Pick 5 random sites each months and ask members to join them an review. Preferred ones with a discount that month. Why members can review any site asking for some random each month will keep less known sites from sliding into obscurity.

6.( Bonus tip) If you change the Contest to twice a month( as noted above), you could then make it to only once a month a member could win. Solving the problem of sameness of members.

Questions let me know.

CT Since 2007

02-07-19  08:17am - 1929 days #467
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


Cyber, I know that I can't say anything to solve this, but please don't leave us. You are one of the longest 'serving' members here (we both joined in 2007!) and while TBP/PU has seen some ups and downs the site is one of the best communities for people who share our less-than-appreciated hobby. I know I'm not alone when I say that the community here would miss your contributions.

RA



I there Rearadmiral, I'm not going to leave. Yep I remember way back then when I was 12 years younger .
I'm not going anywhere, not sure why I said that. I hate change especially when something works. Its my fault for chiming in, my background in law and business consulting, made me see the flaws and probably just got under my skin.
The old PU, we Had Khan and Amanda both who added class and a professionalism to a industry that some look at sideways. I never felt bad here, or like scum, which can happen when you tell others you engage in adult activities.
Being able to engage in the site and actually enjoy the company of all you guys. Its cool that so many of us are here over a decade later and still here sharing in the forum and doing review.

I am actually writing another book on running a business, my second one. And what I saw here must have triggered my common sense views on the site. So the combination of being ignored to help here, and having huge experience in the business world bugged me I guess. I will just have to learn to live with what PU is today , not what it once was. But ya wasn't going anywhere, just frustrated seeing this site slide off the rails. Since 2007

02-06-19  01:49pm - 1929 days #460
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Originally Posted by jook:


The frustration is understood. Many of us spend hours over several days writing a review. I know I have. It upsets me to see reviews that were apparently written in 60 seconds get posted, let alone win a raffle. Not only does it detract from the well-written reviews, but it makes the site look amateurish.

But please, time out. Cooler heads need to prevail if this community is going to move forward and be successful. Freddie apologized profusely and said the mistake won't be repeated. I've done a lot worse things in my life.

Just my 2 cents.


There is a Ying and Yang here.
PU and TBP make allot of money based on referrals and Reviews. And I am 100% cool with that.

" BUT" There is a contract here, this is not a personal game room, and why I like the personal touch of things. That does not excuse the agreement reviewers have with these two websites. The forum is great for fun ans games.

But when PU/TBP ask us to review and in exchange there are rewards, the standard of care should be very high on weighing the results. I get your point, sadly it has nothing to do with cooler heads. There is a contract here, we must obey to qualify for winning and for getting a reviews qualified. The standard of care was not met.

I fail to understand why all one has to do is say umm sorry and all of a sudden their contract obligation is ignored?
I do the same to Amazon, they promise 2 day shipping, don't care it took three. I pay for prime access, and there is contract, I pay they provide XYZ. Here I do reviews based on strict guidelines, in return we are put on a list that may possible win.

I find it very funny however no comments by these two users, which we all know was one person. They took the money and ran. Leaving everyone else with their mouths hanging going what? In closing, I am not mad at all about this. I am disgusted at the lack of care given when many of us have dedicated years here as member's. Sorry doesn't cut it for this member. I am glad your sorry, but maybe they should have trained the staff on the rules before shoving them out not knowing what to do.

Ya I have some thinking to do, maybe time to just cuts ties here for good. Obviously no one cared enough to even train these new people. And then they have to take the slack for poor training. And I for one do not think I can trust and untrained person saying it wont happen again 2 months in ? Since 2007

02-06-19  11:34am - 1929 days #448
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Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:


I appreciate everything you guys have pointed out.

I was unaware that these two were posted 30 minutes of each other. I'll be more careful next time reviewing the reviews.

Like I pointed out, I accepted this review with the initial thought of bringing in new people in the community. This is my primary goal as the moderator. With this mind, I'm welcome to any ideas and criticism from you guys. My inbox is always open!

A bit about myself - I am a woman! I grew up in Spain but have spent most of my time bouncing between the UK and North America.

I apologise for all the issues this caused. I will be sending out the prizes to the winners of the week and will be more careful for next weeks raffle.

Keep the reviews coming. I do love reading them.



Thank you for the explanation, not sure I understand really. This site and reviews are slow, as well as forum postings. I simply fail to understand how so many levels were missed. This site is linked off the main site, so visitors can see what users of sites experience. Not having a reliable system, means they reviews can be seen as not reliable. What staff fails to do here reflects on everyone. And being I asked for a supervisor contact and that was ignored, I now ever more do not trust the process.

I have been a member hear a very long, time. Maybe I am taking this more serious then most.
I have had many websites, and my experience goes back decades. After Khan passed, a few weeks later I asked PU staff if they would need help, as at the time I was home for awhile. After giving them my resume, they turned it down only because they were looking for those with even more experience then me. So then I see how mismanaged the site is and I guess I am going WTH? I studied computer science, have a law degree and admin many websites. And knew this site front back at PU. Sorry, maybe I took this crazy way the site is being run personal, since its obvious the staff here does not have the training or experience that was claimed a few years ago as being needed. Not sure I will write anymore reviews, I think why bother spending time to give a decent review, when I could just post what ever and it counts. LOL So maybe I'll just post short meaningless reviews Since 2007

02-05-19  05:10pm - 1930 days #445
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I tend to not be as forgiving, but in the public service industry I am very forgiving. Restaurants and anyone that has to deal with the public. I run websites, I write Books, and I have a dedication to doing the best I can, by staying up on tech and making sure my product is presented well.

To put the facts more clearly.

1. Two short reviews approved by staff.
2. On A UN-reveiwed website and no one questioned it.
3. Both posted with in 30 minutes of each other.
3. Both Joined the same day.
4. One of the two won for scamming the site.( my opinion)

Thats a failure to check a review before approving it.
Failure to recognize the two reviews by two other people on the same site. Picked a review my dog could have written.
And then did not even verify the review that would have won.

I live each day with excuses, the point is they obviously did not read the reviews and were just pointing and clicking, thats not needing to learn rules, thats ignoring protocol.

I can appreciate defending staff, but thats not our jobs, our jobs are to write reviews and have them fairly judged, that failed on many levels and is not an error or mistake, but neglect. Since 2007

02-05-19  03:16pm - 1930 days #443
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


Part of being a leader is to admit when you are wrong and then correcting your mistakes.

Several weeks ago I told you that there was a rule about members winning in two consecutive raffles. Your response was to laugh me off. You could not say that you missed the rule, you said it was suspended retroactively. I was very insulted and put my account on hold.

You did not even notice or care.

Now you say you need time to learn the rules. You could try reading them. it takes less than five minutes.



So whom is holding whom accountable in these contests?
And how do you get a job without knowing how to do it?
I means who is overseeing the new people working lack of leadership, caring? Its not just these contest, the reviews in this case are obvious, lets just call it what it was, trolling and fraud, and the staff rewarded them
Maybe Porn Users is run by the Government sure sounds like it.

Give a job to people that don't know how to do it, and then they blame their lack of training. Yet let the reviewers here do what they want.
I would like to know whom of this staff here, whom is your supervisor? Since 2007

02-05-19  12:26pm - 1930 days #440
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Khan was a great staff member, but he's not coming back.
(I made a small donation to his gofundme acount (or whatever it was called) when I heard he was sick.

So we have to give the new staff time to settle in and learn the rules.

Amanda was here only 2 years, but she was lovely.

I think Freddie and whatever other staff are trying to do their job, but I'm not sure how much time they are being paid for or how much instruction they've gotten.

But if some PU members want to start a blog trying to help explain their concerns (plus and minus) about the site, the PU staff could read the blog and learn from it.

Just my 2 cents.


I think the problem is and has always been, the lack o understanding the pulse of this system. Khan and a few others had it dialed in. It then kinda fell apart for awhile. The dark ages. Ive been a member here as long as you two. Maybe a thread of what we think might help. But so much is also put into reviews and this last round looks like no one even processed the hard work by everyone. So creating a thread, who knows if its worth the effort? As we do not really have a member Representative here. Since 2007

02-05-19  11:37am - 1930 days #438
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


[QUOTE=Cybertoad]
Winning member Joined two day in, short review, reviews a site with no reviews, then two new users give a review on the same site. And being trusts are disabled to give others a warning, this really sets a precedence for abuse. Not too mention, really both new reviews were only 30 minutes apart, by two members, that just joined and they win. Who over sees these things ??



I wonder about the future of PU. The site needs hands on management that acts with maturity and integrity.


In a word... Khan... Since 2007

02-05-19  11:04am - 1931 days #436
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


I don't have to win, I understand how this works.
Thanks Cyber.

Recently I disabled my account because the rules were suspended to have a member win in two consecutive drawings.
This not right.


I came back after awhile, which is normal for me.
take breaks)
I saw this and went what ?? I also don't have to win, but I questions the integrity of the process. To not have no fail safes to catch all the obvious signs that appear obvious what was done. And now we can not grade the reviewer. LOL Since 2007

02-05-19  10:54am - 1931 days #434
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


A review that should have earned zero points should not ever win anything. Sorry. Ban me if you want but this is a shameful disgrace.


Winning member Joined two day in, short review, reviews a site with no reviews, then two new users give a review on the same site. And being trusts are disabled to give others a warning, this really sets a precedence for abuse. Not too mention, really both new reviews were only 30 minutes apart, by two members, that just joined and they win. Who over sees these things ??

WOW , thats messed up people. I agree @Mbaya, the results are supposed to be ones we can trust.

I could care less that I didn't win,but is pretty obvious what this was. Since 2007 Edited on Feb 05, 2019, 10:57am

02-01-19  12:15pm - 1934 days #2
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Looks good. Since 2007

01-30-19  10:18am - 1937 days #7
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To answer the OP, question.

The quality, of tube sites even YouTube changes when you pay for. Almost all tube sites have 720P, for free access.

However, most pay sites have a minimum of 1080p and 4K, also many have virtual reality as well. The VR, at most websites is subpar and quality is noticeable. We have to remember that 720p is old technology, and yet the free sites are giving this to others because it is old technology often only a few megabytes in size. However a 4K, or 1080p can be several gigs in size depending on the length of movie.

I actually think things are moving along as they should, things that are tend to be free, or often of a lower quality. A good example is listening to music on YouTube. The quality of music on YouTube is nothing compared to the MP3 if you purchase it. As the same concept here these websites provide the material and make the money off of advertisements. However that varies on the amount of income they can have so they make a lower quality and encourage you to purchase higher quality access.

So I like to change the topic here, and state it's not that these are free. The low quality is free and for high quality access you need to pay at these two sites also that's been my experience the majority the time if you want a higher resolution you have to pay, but that access. Why yes sometimes the higher-quality resolution is made free but it is not the rule of most sites, Since 2007

12-14-18  09:59am - 1984 days #403
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Thank You as well, joined a few sites this month so will get a few reviews in soon. Appreciate the giftcard too, but its fun sharing the experiences. Since 2007

12-12-18  11:29am - 1985 days #399
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Hello,
And thank you that was a nice surprise.
Just in time for some holiday shopping,

I forgot how long the card take to come out? Since 2007 Edited on Dec 12, 2018, 03:08pm

11-14-18  01:14pm - 2013 days #1334
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Times have changed here at PU, a few years ago I posted a thread similar to yours and was reprimanded, you have 1333 post of tolerance.

Note I think I only got three posts in before it was closed. Since 2007

11-07-18  01:02pm - 2020 days #7
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KEEP EM, CUMIN !! Since 2007

11-07-18  12:59pm - 2020 days #1314
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TRUMP 2020 that will give you 4 more years to have fun.

Guns and Porn,,,,,what else is there ? Since 2007

11-07-18  12:56pm - 2020 days #20
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VR seems to be the next, but I think transparent VR will be the next big thing, as we are already moving away from closed in VR boxes to, open air boxes that seem more tolerable. Since 2007

10-16-17  03:57pm - 2407 days #8
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Ive been user VR for a few months now.

What I found is quality means everything. This is where HD matters and clear clean good lenses with great eye protection matter.

The average porn scene is around 20-30 minutes which is at the end of the suggested limit of use without a break. I am not talking these hard core gamers who stay on hours at a time. Unless you can afford the 2000K units that allow them to be worn without strain to the eyes this is the doctors suggested exposure.

I found droids do a good job at VR viewing allowing one to spend more on goggles. I got in on beta testing goggles and I can say they vary allot from set to set. The biggest issue I have seen is comfort and lens quality some look cool but fit like knives in your head and some are glasses friendly and some you can't wear. I have not seen much on the way of macs simply because they applications and codec seem to be the issues with comparability and many are not wanting to plunk down making thinks work on MAC not now anyways. Since 2007

05-31-17  08:34am - 2546 days #168
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Originally Posted by Amanda:


Hi Cybertoad. I used to send raffle winner emails manually to the winners, but then just stopped since there's a somewhat small pool of winners and I always announce the winners in this thread each week. Now I will only send a notice to new winners so they can confirm their email address. I can start sending these raffle winner alerts again if that's what everyone wants. Just gimme a holler.

As for other notices, which specifically seem to be missing? Let me know and I'll look into it!


I have most notices set to let me know. comments, etc are all checked to give and update and for awhile like a year it never gives up dates. There was a glitch in the system a year or there abouts and ever since that I do not get updates.
So say I leave a review or comment and someone else comments on it I have no idea. I do not get forum updates either and I do have it set to notify on some I do not get any.
Hope that helps. Since 2007

05-25-17  09:22am - 2552 days #165
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Hi there,
Still no raffle notices ?
Or site notices.
Is there somewhere else I should be asking for assistance?

Thanks. Since 2007

05-24-17  08:56am - 2553 days #161
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I had brought this up last year, I still do not get any notices from this site on anything including these raffles.

Oh an thanks for the win ☺ Since 2007

05-24-17  08:51am - 2553 days #160
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Originally Posted by jook:


This may seem a bit ingracious. It's not intended to be so. I'll admit upfront that I do reviews not only because I enjoy doing so, but I also like winning the raffle. Hence, my question.

I've asked before about how raffle winners are chosen and perhaps I am thick or am misunderstanding the answers. Amanda's private response to me not long ago stated the winners are chosen by an automated system dependent on the amount of points they have accrued. That's a simple enough explanation, however...

This past week, I had 4 points, at least tied with one other person for the top spot but didn't win anything. I did not win the previous week which I believe makes me eligible to be in the drawing.

Second, how does an automated system choose between more than 1 person who have the same number of points? That happens frequently. I'm guessing subjectivity and human intervention has to play a part.

Again, sorry if this seems greedy or uncouth.


Ive been a member here along time, And why I am not staff each week my observation is the amount of entries varies, points vary and I am sure from watching that make a difference in the out come. If it helps I maybe win 1 in 6 sometimes more. If there are allot of entries then the odds go down on winning. I have placed reviews in the beginning, middle and ending of the week cycle and it doesn't affect anything that I ever noticed. Its kinda like playing the lottery some one buys 10 tickets and one buys just one ticket and the one ticket wins. Hope that helps. Since 2007

05-12-17  09:21am - 2565 days #33
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Ive been a member here along time, and the reviews to me seem pretty consistent. I used Rabbits for awhile too the reviews do match what I know about the sites I am looking at.

I take more into what is said then a point system. I mean for the most part unless its under 75 then I tends to not look so there is some impact to the scoring but not much.
As a business consultant my job is too not just look at what others are looking at but to see it from all angles and be neutral if needed and in-depth if needed.

I think PU, TBP/Rabbits all compliment each other.
The only part I find daunting is now we have three resources consider and why that may be a plus if you have time it would be nice if all the sites were at one place and intermingles helping the PU community grow and unifying the Rabbit and TBP process more completely. Since 2007

05-12-17  09:06am - 2565 days #12
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I think most viruses reported, had to do with also illegal downloads and that seems to have slowed way down.
So my guess is so will infections.

I can't recall ever getting a virus, got a malware once on free site but my PC stopped the infection.

WOW, usenet good times forgot about those. Since 2007

05-12-17  09:01am - 2565 days #10
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Wow that is a huge surprise thought maybe would be one of those forever sites. Since 2007

11-10-16  01:01pm - 2747 days #10
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I am and always will be the black sheep / Toad in this group.

Personally people need to really look long and hard, the same system that elected, Bush, and Obama did Trump we all need to let that sit awhile and sink in. I am happy he won as personally I was affected allot by Obamacare and other nice laws he helped pass that screwed the middle class. Having another person pushing that agenda would not be good for my life. Now all that said we do not have to like or even respect Trump, but we must if we are Americans respect the office. I really disliked Obama with a passion yet respect the office of POTUS. I am disturbed by the double standard I see on the streets the last few days. If there is a societal change it will because of lawlessness no one want to be the one to say such a thing but we all support rights to protest I sure do. But to do so illegally and harmful to others is wrong. I do not think Trump will work to ban porn when he was involved in Porn laws and questions it was not to ban like the hype would lead you to believe. It was to ensure safety in the industry was present I think he supported mandatory condoms in porn is where many are getting the story of banning it which is not true from what I have read.

I like Trump, its been a very very long time in this nation since a non-politician was elected. I think that alone spells fresh start. Will that be good or bad I have no idea.
I think he will be way to busy to push laws against porn, he is not a super conservative at all. You would think more liberal types would like him based on that but I guess depends how far left one is I guess. I like where I sit just to the right of center on most stuff. Even porn as I am not a fan of extreme, abuse and such .
Hope I didnt offend anyone around here, its how I feel myself, and is just my opinion not trying to change how people think.
I too really like the civility of PU its always a great place I will sure miss Khans place in all this and his perspective. Since 2007

11-09-16  10:43am - 2749 days #56
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Welcome great story.... Since 2007

11-04-16  01:01pm - 2753 days #9
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Those are good ones iknowwazzup, good perspectives.
Not always but often we watch to fullfill a fantasy or a carnal need. But even as much as we might enjoy them it needs to be realistic and these throat slammers and chokers are not something you will find little mary sunshine allowing.
My own opinion is in many instances porn has gone to far over the edge of what it was intended to be.

Any football fans here? You know how every year they change the rules and the plays allowed it like that every year the push a little farther in porn and for me I lose interest when they do that. I also think its not healthy for the average young man who find him a girl and then decides to pile drive her face and is shocked when her reaction is WTF ?
Now hopefully people do not get their sex tips from porn but all to often the reality and fantasy lines get blurred. The BJ, has the ability to add intimacy to porn yet seem so many miss the obvious opportunity. Since 2007

11-04-16  12:44pm - 2753 days #7
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I had some interaction via emails over the last 10 years here and he was always up beat positive and encouraging.
I was gone for a short time did this twice I was said upon my last return that Khan was no longer here,while the rest of the staff here is great. Its a different feel without him.
The positive note on this is his work and commitment kept this community alive. I have zero doubt there would be no PU or community without the work he did here. He took what some look at as taboo and made it a friendly dare I say normal place to be and share a hobby we all do.
I and grateful for his part here and the times I got to interact with him were great. I will pray for peace for him and his family he always seemed like a good decent person with a spot of perv on the side. Heres a couple for you Khan thank you ! Since 2007

11-04-16  12:36pm - 2753 days #4
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I think that that some also say no to scenes to fetch a high price later. Many stars would not do anal and as time went on and demand for them to do it I am sure they fetched a good price. I think CP is probably like that they say its risky and or even dangerous they will get paid more.
I think it has nothing to do with choice or some taboo I think its all dollar related.
I can not think of any porn star that would not do a scene if not paid enough. Since 2007

10-25-16  10:04am - 2764 days #3
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Holloween ( by Rob Zombie ) is almost as good as the Original.

Pet Sematary

Night of the Living Dead ( original ) Since 2007

10-24-16  12:32pm - 2764 days #14
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According to a source they often use Facebook and Twitter, people think that the videos and links they click are virus free. Well the embedded script on Facebook may be safe until you click it and the sources malicious code goes active. Even friends can inadvertently send you a link or video you think is good to go.
Obviously porn is used on many sites to install malware at the least to take over your PC at the most. ( free sites I should state, torrents etc)

People have become way to conformable with the internet.
Most people never would click a link in and email from a stranger yet will go to facebook and twitter and click all day long careful where you click, no matter where the source comes from.

There is some protection from the sources by having script blockers on your browser ( not ad blockers script)
Also SpyBot Search and Destroy is a good one in my opinion for keeping nastys at bay.

Nothing is 100% but if one uses common sense thats a big part. Since 2007

10-24-16  12:02pm - 2765 days #10
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The problem is we ( us citizens ) keep trusting two parties who really do not care about us. Bush's, Clintons,Obama,.
All have opposed something before they were for it and all have been for something before they were against it.
The two Bushed all lied anyone with a brain knows Iraq had nothing to do with 911, other countries did but we didnt attack them. Bill Clinton lied under oath, lost his license to practice law and was impeached. Hillary is the dodge master there are so many videos of her opposing abortion,for building border walls ( and her hubby saying it too ) its ridiculous. Obama by far the worse so far told us Hillary was not right for this country when she was running for president against him, he she was careless and did not know what she was doing then he made her secretary of state and now supports her for president ? What ? Trump, I have no idea people say he want to close border makes him racist. Yet , Hillary, Bush SR and JR. Bill Clinton and Obama all wanted to build a wall. Now that Trump does they are all against it?

Bottom line you are living in the Twilight Zone if you think Presidents make the country better. I have been voting for many many many decades and what is consistent is all politician are deceitful and lie.
This election is comical, Hillary has her hand so deep down that cookie jar only a fool would ignore it. And Trump has his hand down the ladies pants so far he can read the labels.


Reality people fear what Trump might maybe do based on speeches.
Yet they ignore what all past presidents and Hillary have done with stacks of evidence.
The fact Dems are standing by Hillary shows why the country is broken and people are stupid. Really her husband is impeached and she has broken laws that would place you and I in jail for life. Yet all that people fear what Trump might do is careless and reckless. And 4 years later if Trump is president everyone will be surprised what he did or failed to do. When people run for office no one tells the truth everyone lies get used to it.

The key is the first time a President lies stop listening to him, when a politician like Hillary lies. Stop supporting her. If we punish those who lie to us there is a place for change.
But if you are going to vote party no matter whom it is how stupid they are and no matter what laws they broke or how they treated people? Well this is how they continue to violate our privacy time and time again is we keep letting them in and reward them when they lie. Obama approved the Patriot Act and how many stupid people voted for him again LOL.

Politicians lie stop supporting them when they do !!!! Since 2007

10-21-16  11:27am - 2768 days #7
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I dumped about 4TB a few years ago kept maybe 800gigs of favorites.
Now I have favorites with niches and one review folder that is why I put the new stuff sometimes in the heat of the moment you say thats looks awesome and well you play it and then not so much so I have a large review. I have niches and then under niches top favorites the collection now is only 1.5 TB easily accessed I figured having three big drives was silly with that much I would never have watched it all. I keep some older stuff from 8 years ago or so that were just awesome scenes. There are a few go too ones as well in a short folder. I kept it simple so its not a collection as much as just a access file system. My vast music collection is the same with about 40K songs which I separated by decade and a few by bands/singers. I have a vast record collection to that is in only favorites order so being organized is only PC related. Since 2007

10-21-16  11:15am - 2768 days #19
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Ive been using Potplayer64 for about 6 months lately its seems to work real well even on a 8gig file I loaded to test and it was just fine. VLC had a problem with that file.

I agree with what has been said I notice scratches, blemishes and allot I never even saw before. Just 4 years ago 720 was great to see in Porn and was perfect in my opinion 720 is good enough for porn higher and really the quality hurts not helps. With VR on the rise who wants an up close pimple to kill the mood. They were there before but now more then ever you can tell when a star has lots of doctoring done up it looks almost unnatural. Since 2007

10-21-16  11:06am - 2768 days #6
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The sensual act of the BJ has lost its luster in much of todays porn..
Let us slip back to the days of That 70's 80's and 90's BJ's were talented young ladies devoured a young mans cock in way you wanted to be that guy. Many sites have resulted into BJ = just another hole to fuck and the scenes show that.
Some sites like Twistys Hardcore and some others that are putting intimacy back into the BJ.

The facts are for most guys the act is and should be committed on them not with them. Guys want a BJ to appear servicing his needs its why guys love BJ is just the lady servicing you and how much more intimate can you get.
She should have 90% eye contact with in POVs, and sloppy messy drooling does nothing for me. One who keeps her sucking and pulling contained is how I see it working well.
The occasional stroking is good followed by pussy and tit play is good just not too much. I think also a lady starting off in panties and bra and then undressing during the act is sensual and ads to the spark. The other parts is the she should vary from head to shaft at times and some ball play is good as well just not too much. Thats my take.
Oh and let her finish you and by all means shut the fuck up. men talking and loud moaning is a cock killer . Since 2007

05-18-16  01:59pm - 2923 days #13
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Hi there,
Yep, had an account and was one of the first to received an invite and actually created an account for the site. Its not a huge deal, I mean it was my choice to leave for awhile but didn't realize I would not be on that site either. Since 2007

05-18-16  01:52pm - 2923 days #2
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Originally Posted by Tittyshake:


Soooooo I have a massive lady boner right now for Brianna Jordan. She's straight up a boss ass bitch who not only kills it in glamour porn but is an extremely smart business women. SPLOOSH!

I've been reading her blog lately and everything she writes just makes me want to bow down to her.

This is a quote on why she won't do boy/girl scenes.

"Now I am not bad mouthing ALL adult stars that do boy girl. SOME have their shit together, some are very happy with their compensation…I have also seen the flip side where the majority of stars fall. Where they are viciously taken advantage of, exposed to things they cannot mentally handle properly, get caught up in a party lifestyle, are living check to check broke AF or worse, exposed to a disease because they were desperate for a scene & a paycheck. For me boy/girl was never something I seriously considered for many reasons, not just the low financial profit & the fact that the Adult companies profited SO much on each girl while they were given scraps. So for all of you fuckers out there that CONTINUOUSLY ask me why I don’t shoot Boy/girl scenes….FUCK OFF, you can’t afford me, so don’t hold your breath lol! "

BOOM!!!!!!!




Ya , now thats how you say it. Since 2007

05-18-16  01:50pm - 2923 days #2
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My own point of view is today in the industries like is seen in much of the USA is whats in it for me.

I am one of the people annoyed by the me Generation. It seems all to common now days their is no loyalty in business let alone friendships, and there is always those thinking how they can get to know the right people, then fuck them over.
Ya I sound cynical because Ive been there done that could write a book. I think its just what we are seeming more of today, allot of self entitlement in the world, why should porn be any different is my take. Since 2007

05-16-16  11:37am - 2926 days #9
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I was a member there, I guess why I was gone the powers that be removed me. Since 2007

05-03-16  11:12pm - 2938 days #61
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Originally Posted by Amanda:


Winners for May 3, 2016, raffle are...

1. elephant
2. someyoungguy
3. Cybertoad

Elephant scored Porn Films 3D a whopping 91! He was greatly impressed with the variety of performers as well as in action. There are also lots of bonuses and efficient search features.

New member review this week by someyoungguy! He thought Bare Maidens deserved an 88 and made some very good points in his review. Although he didn't get excited over the navigation, the video quality was top-notch in his books.

Last but not least, Cybertoad reviewed 21Sextury.com. He scored it a 91 on PU, but also gave it five whole Cybertoad boner points! Now, that's high praise! He was left almost grasping for cons with this one.

And even though he didn't place this week, I'd like to give a shout-out to merc77, who submitted reviews on Boy Locker, Latin Boyz and Amazing Twinks!

Once again, many thanks to you guys for such valuable submissions and congrats!


Thank you for the kind words, the feedback is great and helps to know one is doing good and that its liked by staff and others. I appreciate the feedback thank you. Since 2007

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