Looking at the last 2 months of scenes I calculated that they cost an average of 4.4 tickets and the scenes that I might have been interested to view were 5 or 6 tickets. I note that some members claim an average of 3.5 tickets per scene. So, that would mean I could purchase 6 to 8 scenes per month at an average cost of EUR14 per scene.
Legal Porno is probably the most expensive site I go to regularly on a per scene price. As many of you know, LP doesn’t use a normal subscription model but instead you buy ‘tickets’ and cash those in on scenes. There aren't many sites like LP and I’ve been a fan for a while now but in the past six months they’ve had a really annoying issue: download speeds.
I have a 300MB connection and with most sites I can see in the low 40 MB/s for downloads. While I can see short bursts at 12 MB/s with LP those usually fall off to 1 or 2 MB/s pretty quickly. These past few days I can only dream of those numbers. I bought a scene recently and have yet to be successful downloading it because I’m getting download speeds around 300KB/s.
For the prices this site charges you’d think they could bring their servers into the 21st Century.
Knowing that I'm a long-term member of ALS Scan, Alex asked me to do some beta-testing of ALS's new pay-per-scene site. Being more into perusing full sites, I have to confess that I didn't get around to it until the new site was already open to the public. I won't quit my day-job.
But the site is open, so I figured that I'd get my ass moving and see what my impressions are.
First of all, it's a very clean un-cluttered design, unlike MANY sites these days that have so much advertising for other sites that it's hard to even see the material that you joined the specific site for. This site doesn't even advertise ALS Scan - which it might want to do in a non-intrusive way, since many who discover ALS through this site might want to see more.
At this site, you buy ALS Dollars with a credit card and then you purchase individual scenes - photo-sets or vids.
The price-point strikes me as very generous to the consumer. Where a month's join to ALS Scan would be $29.95, you can go to this site and say, "Oh, man - I want to see Amy Brooke" and buy a single "normal res" photo set of approx 300 pics at $0.99 or a single "high-res" photo set at $1.49 - or you can get a bundle of all of the photo-sets at a slightly higher price in either normal or high-res.
For vids, you can buy a "stream" of a vid - no download for $0.99, or a 720 download - DiVX or MP4 HD at $1.49 each or a download at WMV 1080 for $1.99/scene or again you can buy a bundle or the vids at any of the resolutions - the bundle of the 6 vids at the highest res is $7.16.
All the vids have pretty full descriptions of what type of action is included.
It's a pretty great alternative to a full-site join. I know that I've definitely been excited to see everything that a site has of a particular performer and here you could get all of ALS Scan's material of Amy Brooke at just under $10.00 - 1/3 the price of joining the site for 1 month.
I looked at one of the 720 MP4 vids and one of the 1080 vids I downloaded (I was provided with some ALS bucks in my account by the site for beta-testing purposes) and the 1080 vid looked more sumptuous to me on my system, but the 720 vid looked excellent at fill-screen mode. It wasn't exactly a 1-to-1 comparison, since the 1080 vid was an outdoor scene and the 720 vid was an indoor vid.
I'm also impressed with how current the material is being posted on this site. They have all of the Gigi Rivera material that ALS Scan has posted, so they seem to be seriously committing to this site as a consumer alternative to joining the monthly site as opposed to doing some "wait 90 days until you can get new material On Demand".
ALS has created a very appealing site here in my opinion and made it very easy for people to use it and enjoy it.
Would I give up my membership to ALS Scan and just go the On-Demand route?
Not likely - with ALS Scan having updates every single day - pic sets of approx 300 pics or vids that average 30 minutes - that site has the edge for me
I wanted to take this time to warn everyone to stay far away from these scam artist.
I found a newbie on EBI and I noticed that she had a scene on their site so I thought it was time to give them a chance.
Man was that ever a bad idea. Joining isn't very difficult but when you assume that you are getting a full access membership then what you are really getting is a ticket based system where you are assigned (in my case 35 tickets) a certain number of tickets for the bulk of the library and access to about 24 or so scenes that can be downloaded without any tickets.
I was pissed when I found that out but that was just the tip of the iceberg. Let me now give you the rest. The navigation is rather convoluted and a major pain so finding a specific scene is really hard. I only got 35 tickets but even worse is that some scenes cost at least 3 tickets so in fact there is no way I could download as many as 35 scenes and it's likely that I could only download about 11. Now I paid 30$ for my membership and I was under the impression that I could download everything. Be advised that a large chunk of their library is content available on many other sites like Videobox since the content is from the studios Sinsational and Sineplex to name two. Of course that wasn't the scenes I wanted and even those are ticket based scenes.
I was pissed but since I had already paid my money then I was at least going to get as much as I could for it but when I tried to download a scene then I was met with another system where you need to confirm your credit card information by authorising them to charge an amount from .20 to 2$ but where you need to verify what the amount you were charged and then entering that amount in a special box... W.T.F. I mean I've already used my card to access the site. I've already paid 30$ and now I need to verify this by paying more money. I know they said that the amount would be credited after the transaction was confirmed but F..k Them. I'm not going to play stupid games to download porn.
I immediately contacted their support desk to tell them to cancel my membership and credit me. That was also a pain but it was the kind of pain I was willing to do. I didn't get an answer by email so I decided to go on their site and my only two option are to get only 30% back or keep my membership but not be able to download anything. I picked the 30% credit as I will not be able to download anything and I'm writing this to warn others.
since a few weeks they recycle films als "newly added", which a saw in 2009 and 2010. there are also a lot of "premium titles" with 1,67 to 3,33 minutes accounted for every minute you watch. was a good site, but in the last few months to much maximizing the profit....
i don't understand. They expect me to pay 10 dollars to watch just 1 video multiple times in 5 days ? this is a joke. you can't donwload, only web streaming, just lol. all this buying minutes thing is just a horrible value compared to videobox and other download sites. it is funny that they are marketing it "no monthly fees" like it is a good thing. dude, i have to pay 100 dollars a month to you to watch the same content in videobox.
I've been thinking about joining Legalporno but can't decide if the ridiculous ticket payment method is worth it for the scenes I want.
As I've searched for performers there, it seems to take me to a wider search under the Pornbox network which offers a subscription to all its sites and videos under the "Pornworld membership".
Two days ago Legal Porno's site went down and they later were able to recover enough to report that they were subject to a successful cyber attack that crippled their site. Here's what they have posted now:
Early morning on the 24th of June we suffered an attack that caused some damage and a negligible amount of data loss. No data was stolen. We are working on restoring all our services (with increased robustness) as soon as possible. We are sorry for the inconvenience caused. Attacks against us are very common unfortunately and this one was successful for once.
They seem to be slowly getting back to normal and while they say that no data was stolen it might be worthwhile to keep an eye on your credit card if you've bought tickets from them in the past. I have and since they do their own billing they have my CC number. I'll be watching that for a while.
For a while (for a long while) Hotmovies has been offering free streaming minutes for members: every time you logged in, you could add one extra minute to your account, which isn't much, but it is something. (For a short time they were offering increasingly more minutes if you joined several days in a row: one minute the first day; two minutes on the second day, etc., up until five, but that was too good and was discountinued).
Anyway, I cannot complain because when I joined Hotmovies I didn't expect to get those free minutes, but it's a bit dissapointing to see them gone once you got used to them...
Apart from that, I continue to be a happy Hotmovies customer...
I read on another forum that LP has increased prices on a lot of their scenes. I browsed through and it certainly looks that way. Back when I bought a lot of their scenes it was rare to find a scene that cost more than five tickets but now the scenes that are (I presume) a mix of expensive to shoot and likely to be popular can be well over that cost. I wonder at what point it becomes a vicious cycle for them and they price themselves out of the market.
I like (a lot) of the content.
I like the ticket system. Buy a scene, always have access.
I like that I can cancel rebilling on the site without going through the biller's site or phone agent. So far, excellent.
However,
Files seem oversized for movie length and quality.
Download speeds frequently drop to the point of being unusable.
Pricing has gotten more complicated.
An increasing number of scenes are like a clumsy acrobatic circus. How many clowns will fit in that tiny car? I don't know, there are too many clowns to even see the car.
I recently signed up for another three months, but did not want rebilling. I have email verification that I cancelled the rebill and that I will have access until March. So I was charged for the 3 months, and now I can't even get access to what I bought before. Support tells me there was a chargeback and that I should pay them for the fee they had to pay for the chargeback. I checked my cc statement. The charge is there with NO CHARGEBACK. [Edit: problem resolved by LP Support, thank you].
(If there had been a six month option with no rebill, I would have taken that)
One of things that I said in my review is that AEBN didn't seem to have as many premium titles (i.e. titles that cost more than 1 minute per minute of viewing) as some other VOD sites. What I had based that on was by checking out movies I saw were premium on other sites, and seeing if they were labeled as premium on this site. But in browsing the site a few days ago, I found a movie that I wanted to watch, that wasn't labeled premium on it's main page. So I went to start to stream one of its scenes, and I was taken to a screen that said that the movie would cost 2 minutes per minute, and asked me to confirm. I was surprised by this, clicked no, and checked on the main page to see if I could find anywhere that said that this was a premium title. I couldn't. So apparently they don't necessarily label all their premium titles as premium. So if you're going to buy some minutes for a particular movie, make sure that check first by trying to stream a little bit of it to make sure it absolutely isn't premium.
It was touched on in an older comment that they had instituted a cap on the amount of free minutes that an account can earn, but no one ever actually said what what the cap is. As it turns out, the cap is 30 minutes. As soon as you have that, the free minute every day button goes away. But as soon as you go back below it, the button comes back (literally, you can watch a little bit of a movie, refresh the page, and if you haven't taken your free minute for that day the button will be there). I wish the cap were a little bit higher, though, because I feel like it's only enough to watch 1 scene, and then I have to wait a week or two to build up enough minutes to watch another one. Upping it even 5-10 more minutes would give enough time to be able to view 2 scenes when filled, so I don't feel as much like I have to keep a queue of scenes worth checking out.
Lots of content, and seems to stream pretty quick, if not for the cons I listed, I would recommend.
Have to keep entering Password every time you want to view a different scene. Tech Support first said to disable cookies and temp internet files to alleivate problem which DOES NOT HELP!! Then they tell you to disable your firewall,and pop up blockers and also to disable any anti virus protection you have...To me it isn't worth it!!!
Don't bother, there are other sites as good as this and a whole lot less problems!!!
Three months gives 120 tickets and ca. 90 free tickets if I understood this correctly? With 120 tickets you can get roughly 40 scenes and 30 free scenes for those free tickets. That makes a scene cost more than a dollar or euro. Sounds like a rip off to me.
Did I miss the cheaper scenes or is it always like 3 tickets a piece?
On top of that, you must wait for the tickets to trickle in even though you are in fact paying for a lump amount.
I bet this site would be a hit if the membership system was normalized. Then again, who knows, maybe it is already a hit?
One thing I didn't mention in my review (I forgot...) is that at times the download speeds can be very slow. On most sites it is common for me to hit 12-14 MB/sec. On LP I have hit that though the average speed is usually half that. There are times, however, when the download speed is as low as 1 MB/s. Those times correlate with peak download times in Europe rather than in the U.S.
You are unable to change email address. When I asked support I was told to make a new account. I followed up asking about purchases and having to readd favourites, and got no response.
I’ve been a member at Hot Movies for a while and use the site a lot. I know that a lot of members here don’t like VOD, and for me it’s a love/hate relationship. VOD sites, especially those as big as Hot Movies are like the crack cocaine of porn: they may be a bit pricey, but once you’re hooked, you’re hooked good. Hot Movies and some of the other large VOD sites have such huge collections of titles that can’t be found elsewhere and from them I’ve had an opportunity to see some titles that I’d otherwise not have been able to see. As for the fact that they’re VOD only (or DRM-protected downloads) and can be expensive for that privilege, I suspect that’s more the decision of the studios that the VOD sites.
Anyway, in an earlier comment about the site the webmaster replied and noted that Hot Movies offers a 30 day access to some studios for a flat fee of $30. He used Vivid as an example. At a dollar a day for some of my favourite studios this could be a great deal. The problem is that I can’t figure out how to sort the available studios by those which offer this service. Hot Movies has hundreds of studios available and only a few offer this service and I’d rather not have to open each of them to see if they offer this service. Does anyone know if you can sort the studios to see only those that offer the monthly access? If so, how?
since a week, hotmovies is seriously struggeling with the Streaming Speed.
- the "HD"-Option (4Mbit) doesn't work for me never!
- the 'MEGA"-Option (2Mbit) doesn't work since last week
The Streaming starts with the Maximum Speed (2 or 4 Mbit) and Drops down to 100 kbit/s. Sometimes i's going up and down, but you can't look the Video, that doesn't run smoothly. The anwser of the Support is the normal blablabla ".. it depends on your connetion, the Providers between have Problems, no Problem on hotmovies, i'm the only with Problems.." and so on.
unfortunately i'm working in the it-department, so i have a good look into the Problems (and have the measurement device to check the conditions).
I think the have not enough System ressources to fulfill the promised straeming Quality.
thanks.
Update 07-09-2013:
I provided a lot of detailed informations about up-/download-Speed to several Locations in USA (recommended by the hotmovies.com Support). All Downloads have a Speed over 10 MBit/s.
Here the anwser of hotmovies.com:
Thank you for contacting us.
While the speedtest may show that you have the bandwidth needed to stream movies from our site the speedtest is not connectiong to our servers.
It seems that for some reason you do not have enough bandwidth to play the movies from pur servers.
Why you are having this issue we do not know.
Our best suggestion to you is for you to contact your Interent Service provider.
=> in my opinion, that means "hey guy that's your problem"
As an network-specialist i say, no that's not my problem. The Problems are on the Hosting Service!!!! Small ´machines, not enough bandwith, to small Caches, to small bandwith to the filesystem/Network storage System, no balancing etc. there is a Long list for mistakes and Problems! But a good Service Needs some Money....
Last night the updatet the Website and now you have less then ever Options to stream the Videos. All Scenes are devided into several part's. Now you can only stream from the beginning of the complete Scene and not a single part of the Scene.
They have also more Problems with sorting the results of searchlistes and so on.
Right now (and they did this last year), they have an Advent calendar running where each day gets you a free gift (a few minutes, some rewards points, a pre-chosed streaming rental for a week). Last year, I ended up with 2 lifetime rentals and about 30-50 minutes from showing up every day of the calendar. If you're already a member here, I'd suggest going back now, and doing so every day until Christmas.
I suscribed a few days ago and the download speed is not as announced. Mostly i have only 200 - 400 kbit/s. Viewing "1Mbit-Downloads" is not possible. Viewing "High-Speed"-Downlaod is only 320x240 Vidoesize with 350kbit.
this is not acceptable for this price.
Majormike mentioned this in passing - Hot Movies is part of a large series of sites all run by the same company. I'm not a fan of streaming, that's just a quirk of mine. I'd rather download a movie and either buy an unlimited time licence or just have unlimited viewing for a set period (normally 7 or 30 days).
I can agree with everyone here who recommends this site for its size. They have an amazing collection. For years I've been trying to find and watch porn that I had in my collection from 1985 to 2000 and this site has helped. If you like porn from that era they have lots there. If they don't have it, it likely isn't their fault. (Like earlier versions of Joey Silvera's "Fashion Sluts" series which appears to have been discontinued by the studio. Bad decision, studio guys.) They do have, though, a large collection of Randy West's Up and Cummers ranging from the very early to the more recent. These have always been favorites of mine and it is great to have access again. And in many cases if it is a title I really want I can buy the licence pretty cheap too.
Download speeds are average. I'm not going to make comment on video quality because I haven't viewed anything really recent, so what I've seen is probably taken from an old VHS tape. But it still very watchable.
Dollar for dollar VOD sites probably don't match big sites like Videobox or American Vice for a preson just building a collection. But for someone with a big collection already this site (and all sister sites) is an excellent way to see some different movies that aren't available.
One issue is DRM. I've always sworn that I would never have anything to do with a site that has DRM. In this case though, I'll make an exception. Hot Movies / Download 2 Own etc probably just agree to the terms set by the studio and if this is the only way I can see certain older videos then I'll live with that. In my opinion, it is still decent value.
I'd highly recommend these sites. they're easy to use and I've never had an issue.
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