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Do you think online porn will eventually be outlawed or heavily restricted?

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Yes, in the near future 4% 2 Votes
Yes, but not for a while 17% 8 Votes
No 72% 34 Votes
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47 Votes Total

May 27, 2010

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BadMrFrosty (56) I dont think this will happen in my lifetime. Outlawing or even controlling anything on the internet is next to impossible. Just look at how well the fight against pirated movies/games/music/porn is going.
05-27-10  02:06am

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Gazette Risque (55) I don't think it will be outlawed but it will be heavily restricted at some point. Just look at Australia and China for example.
Censorship is gaining ground in these countries as well as others.

Internet-totalitarianism is just around the corner. If we don't speak up now it might be the end of freedom as we know it.

/rant

05-27-10  03:33am

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Jay G (65) The religious-cultural wars will continue with extremist Muslims, Christians, and other ideologists wanting to control every aspect of human life. Fortunately, the fascist/religious crowds hate each other as much as they hate freedom so they will never agree. They will try to censor in their areas of power, but clever people will usually find a way around it.
05-27-10  05:21am

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Denner (233) Not in the free (western) world - just think of the consequences....
05-27-10  07:26am

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Monahan (42) The economics of online porn are huge. And as we see every day big money rules and influences all government policy setting.

That said, and given the fact that the Obama administration is following the European model of secular policies, I don't really see them putting religious morality ahead of their interest in continuing to attract big campaign contributions from the porn biz.

Porn producers always win when we have Democrats in charge and when the Republicans are on top, the best they will ever do is to maintain the status quo. They'll never be able to reverse policies that are already in place.

05-27-10  08:54am

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #5 - Monahan :

Monahan wrote:

"Porn producers always win when we have Democrats in charge and when the Republicans are on top, the best they will ever do is to maintain the status quo. They'll never be able to reverse policies that are already in place."

The Republicans wouldn't dare, not with more and more of those "family values" guys being revealed as hypocrites! :-)

05-27-10  10:32am

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turboshaft (24) REPLY TO #6 - messmer :

That might only protect gay porn...or sites like Rentboy.com! ;-)

At most Obama can only be president through 2017, after which the U.S. may have another Jesus freak in charge. We've done it before, there's no reason we couldn't do it again. That being said, I don't think they would be able to outlaw it totally, at least not at a federal level where social legislation gets iffy (except for gay marriage, which apparently just needs a constitutional amendment!). But I wouldn't be surprised if a few states, or just, say, California, loosen their porn laws to what they are in much of Europe and that as a result there would then be outrage from the right as well as 'real America' for new federal legislation.

Think about what happened with Traci Lords in the '80s and as a result now every American video and site has to have the text about how all the performers were at least 18 at the time of shooting. Imagine if a video had some fisting in it and there was no response from the state courts (it would most likely be from California or Florida). The numbnut lawmakers in the U.S. Congress get all upset and huffy that no state laws are in place to reign in 'morals and values' and propose federal legislation to deal with it! After a serious exchange of hot air in the media shoutosphere it's eventually decided that the federal government really can't enact laws about certain content, and as a result a number of states create their own laws and then thereafter every video and site has to include another warning about what states outlaw such material! :-(

05-27-10  11:46am

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Wittyguy (95) So long as there is some country where porn remains legal and where servers can pump out the x-rated digitized 1's and 0's we covet, there will be porn to be found on the internet. Given the fact that child porn has proven so hard to stamp out with the technology we have it would be almost impossible to snuff all porn even if it were illegal.
05-27-10  11:57am

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graymane (31) No...because porn's so entrenched in Western culture that my guess it's here to stay. The powers that be are duty-bound to periodically rattle their sabers ...but as a previous respondant noted: "big money rules and influences all government policy setting" -- Classic "you scretch my back and I'll scretch yours."
Further, the market for porn overall is so incalculabley heavy and economically friendly, I'd say any attempt to penetrate or find any vulnerabilities would likely prove futile.

05-27-10  03:33pm

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pat362 (371) I don't think so simply because porn is a legal business, the same way that strip clubz are legal businesses and more importantly for the Government.
They are tax paying legal businesses. As long as they pay taxes then I can't see the government doing much more than making big speaches.

05-27-10  06:00pm

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williamj (9) Too much money, the porno industry is worth $25 billion plus a year. But it is maturing and getting boring maybe. Porn is like any other product that saturates the market. It will evolve and just keep getting better with technology. But no the government will leave it alone too much money changing hands.
05-27-10  07:53pm

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Jay G (65) I believe it was Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" that envisioned a future where the world government controlled everything, but porn replaced religion as the "opium of the people" to keep the people quiet. Just thought of that. An interesting twist on our topic.
05-28-10  03:43am

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rearadmiral (330) Maybe Iím too much of a pessimist, but I think that Iíll live to see the day when porn is heavily restricted in most of the world, and Iíve only got another 40 years on this planet.

In the U.S. and Canada the Christian fundies still seem to be in their ascendancy. The U.S may have a bit of a reprieve with Obama as President, but Canada is suffering under an extreme-right conservative government with senior leaders who are fundamentalists. In both countries the fundamentalists are making inroads in government. And in the U.S., consider the rise of the tea-bagger movement. Oops, I mean Tea Party Movement. This is a hard-right libertarian movement, but libertarianism in the 20th century isnít all that itís cracked up to be. Many people view these hard-right parties and movements as wanting to limit government, but the reality is more harsh than that. The reality is that these kinds of people simply want to limit the rights of anyone who doesnít agree with them. Consider the tea-bagger who was just elected to the Senate. He looks harder to the right than many hard-right fundamentalists. He may be Ďlibertarian,í but Iím sure he has no interest in permitting free adults to choose to view porn.

In North America (and maybe other parts of the planet too) there is another powerful and growing movement that will want to attack and outlaw porn. Iím referring to both men and women, but the generic term I use to describe them is the Ďsoccer-mom movement.í I think this group may be more important and dangerous to personal freedoms than the fundies. The soccer-moms want to create an idealized Disneyfied world. Look at what they did to Vegas and Times Square. These were adult playgrounds and now theyíre family friendly and squeaky clean. Consider the safety Nazis who make up a sub-set of the soccer moms as they go about making pansies of everyone. Iím a serving Army officer and sometimes I wonder how militaries are going to be staffed in the future when the younger generations get old enough. Mom wonít be in a combat zone to wipe their precious noses and kiss their bruises.

So in North America we have the fundies and the soccer moms. These groups may be at play in Europe and elsewhere too, I donít know. I do know that much of Europe is letting fundamentalist Islam make inroads, and these people arenít exactly going to be pro-porn.

I guess Iím in a really pessimistic mood today, but I think porn will be restricted on all levels: production, distribution and use. Some commenters here note that you canít regulate the internet so canít really control how people use it. There is some truth to that, but imagine a future where regular porn is treated the same way as child porn is now. HmmmÖ why did that cop car just pull up my driveway?

So all of the above explains why Iím downloading porn like a mad bastard while I can. That and the fact that I really am a mad bastardÖ

05-28-10  01:03pm

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lk2fireone (194) Online porn is, and will be, censored. The amount of censorship changes. But there are still countries where it's illegal to be homosexual, and I believe the potential punishment includes prison and even death.
06-01-10  11:58am

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