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OneMan (27) 11-19-07  02:15pm
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Crappy Direction and No Talky

The reason is that these are new sites based on the "cheap" labour provided by immigrants from Eastern Europe.

Club Seventeen are now using them almost exclusively.

They hardly talk at all...and the direction is pretty shoddy.

500 gets a HDD video recorder nowadays and it doesn't take much to setup a site when you have a "stable of a dozen or so girls who think a 100 for a days work is a lot.

The recent updates over the last 12 months on Seventeenvideo.com has been almost all the same European girls.

Personally, their brand has been ruined by this in my opinion.

The jury is still out in my mind as to the moral acceptability of this .

Unfortunately, many of the girls are some of the most gorgeous I have ever seen...so it makes the morality of the situation rather moot when you are weak as I am...

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asmith12 (124) Wait, what site you're talking about? :-) ClubSeventeen or OnlyCuties?
11-19-07  04:36pm

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OneMan (27) REPLY TO #1 - asmith12 :

Both my friend.

Hannah is Eastern European. she has started appearing alot, in the more recent Club Seventeen material as well.

Many of the girls in Only Cuties are european - hence they don't say much.

Nearly all the updates in the last few months on ClubSeventeen video feature a large proprtion of them.

They are cheap labour and many production companies are taking advantage of this.

Upside is...they are gorgeous; downside is...they don't talk much...and if you're like me, you end up goping on a guilt trip.

11-21-07  01:50am

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asmith12 (124) REPLY TO #2 - OneMan :

I see, thanks. But in such videos girls don't talk much anyway, do they? And Seventeen has always been an European company, and they had never used US models (originally used Dutch, now East European - what's the big difference?) Or you mean that Dutch models did know English well, and East European don't? - that I can confirm, and that is indeed a problem in Seventeen chatroom, but IMHO not the biggest problem there.
11-21-07  06:03am

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Davit (46) Hello again One Man
Just to reply to your comment on using East Europeans etc.
I do appreciate your concern from a moral point of view - i.e. using Eastern Europeans for 'cheap labour'.
But I respectfully disagree. I disagree because sure, it's cheaper from our economy's point of view - but to them they are probably earning a very decent living. This is where market forces actually work in favour of the poorer countries, as they can be more competitive (i.e. work for lower wages than us in the West) and therefore secure work that would otherwise just remain in the UK or USA or wherever.
It's no different to companies outsourcing call centres abroad (I work in a UK call centre, but my employer also uses an Indian call centre for the less technical customer support). And why does my employer use an Indian call centre? Because they're dirt cheap - but they still get the going rate for over there - which affords them a very nice lifestyle. The wages are less - but so is the cost of living within that economy. And that is their 'ace card' in the world market place!
OK, I'm ranting! Just basically saying you shouldn't feel bad about it IMO. Regards. Davit.

01-05-08  11:47am

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OneMan (27) REPLY TO #4 - Davit :

Yes I agree with you to a degree...if the filming takes place at their home country.

I just get the feeling - though I'm not 100% sure of course - that they are probably filming in the west and possibly being taken advantage of.

But of course that could happen to anyone...

01-06-08  11:51am

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