I don't go looking for it, but I don't mind it either. There's enough around online though, including 5 fingers, but maybe less on DVD.
By the way, the 4 vs 5 finger fisting distinction came from British obscenity law. 5-finger fisting is considered extreme porn in the UK and a criminal offense. 4-finger fisting is OK in the UK though.
I should add that the place where this happens the most is on the amateur sites with user generated photos and videos, although that's not what I had in mind when I wrote the poll. While most of the stuff on this type of site like amateuralbum.net isn't high quality, there are occasionally great sets of really hot amateurs that get posted. I check frequently, because it's not uncommon for the users there to delete their own photos after a week or two, and many users delete their entire profile within a few years.
Models that have been removed by DDF include Jenny Noel and Julie Silver, as well as about 16 more that I can't name.
There are a small number of models from Abby Winters who have bought back their own shoots for removal. I don't want to dwell on that site too much here, because the topic of these models has already been beat to death on member forums, and Abby Winters is an excellent site despite this, but I will post their names just so that you guys can recognize it if you have one of these rarities. Alana, Jasmin, Jules, Kate, Louise, Mikaela (killed in terrorist attack in Bali), Nikita, Tammy, and Verity. You can't fault Abby Winters for this, they do try hard to keep their content up, and they are coming out with lots of great new stuff.
There was also Ember from ALS as I said before. I think there was a thread started on her topic, and people came out in supports of ALS's decision.
I usually ask the webmasters if I know that I am missing something. They respond more often than not, and sometimes they are able to make content available on a one-time only basis by request, and other times they can't because of the model's wishes.
So, this is my poll, and this is an issue that I have been aware of at many sites, ranging from large networks to small operations. Webmasters are probably more aware of this issue than the average customer, because they get requests from models not infrequently for their shoots to be removed. I have mixed feelings about it, but most of the time I feel that it detracts from the entire site. As one example, I visited DDF's 1by-day.com and houseoftaboo.com recently, and found that a bunch of really nice shoots that I had once downloaded as free samples from TGP's were no longer available. Support basically said that they rotate some old shoots out, sometimes at the model's request, and sometimes for other reasons. Most of the time, I feel that it's like buying a used book with some pages missing when I learn that I am not getting everything that was once on the site. Most webmasters that I have talked with feel the same way, and push hard to keep their content up. At first, it might seem unfair to the models to keep their stuff online when they no longer want it there, but remember, they got paid for those shoots. How fair is it to webmasters and customers if the models do the shoots, get paid for them, and then make legal threats to have their shoots removed? This is a very complex issue though. There are a few sites that I would forgive for removing certain models' content. One is ALS, one of my favorite sites, who removed Ember's content out of consideration for her family after she passed away. The other is Abby Winters. I wouldn't take any points from them for removing a small number of models, because it's part of their identity that they are a model friendly site, and they would lose that distinction if they did otherwise. They still push hard to keep shoots up despite frivolous and trivial requests for removal, but they do offer models the opportunity to buy back their shoots, presumably for a significant amount of money, if their removal is very important to them. In these cases, it's a classy move to honor those requests, and you can't really fault the sites. Then again, this is a complicated issue, sites like 21sextury.com that seem to have never removed a shoot do stand out in their own way. One thing is for sure, if I learn that a model wanted her content removed, and I happen to have it already, I am definitely not deleting my personal copies. Maybe you could fault me for that, but I take extra pride in having something in my collection that has since become impossible to get again. How do you guys feel about this?
We'd probably be fucked if this happened. Honestly, aliens with the capability for interstellar travel could want little from us but our resources. Benevolent aliens who wanted to study us would not make their presence known. Advanced civilizations meeting primitive ones has almost always been a disaster. I'd definitely get one off before shit hit the fan.
I went with other, because this is highly variable. The best tech support can be a great asset for a site, and it is usually found at either the large networks that are run with customers in mind or at the solo girl sites that are run by the models themselves. In contrast, many sites have poor to no tech support, especially the inactive ones.
1200x800 seems to be winning so far. Maybe because that's the size that starts to show up as a full screen on a good sized monitor? Of course, bigger can be much, much better, and I like to see active sites shooting in 3000x2000, but I still enjoy some of my older pics that are much smaller.
I have some older stuff in 900x600 that is among my absolute favorites from the early days that still looks quite good.
The absolute limit for me is 640x480. Actually, 99.9% of stuff at this size is too low res for me to possibly enjoy, but there are a couple of rare shots in my collection that are so amazing in their content that despite this low resolution, they still are enjoyable. It probably helps that I first laid eyes on them back when that resolution was the norm.
Below 640x480, it doesn't really matter what the picture shows, it's really not possible for me to enjoy those. I might look at one and say that it was an interesting shot, and wish it was done in higher resolution, but I just cannot get past the low quality with photos like that. Sure, I still keep what I have from the early days, but with photos this small, it's for "historic value" only. I think I am wise to keep this stuff, because some of it is so old it is impossible to find now.
I think that internet porn will survive as long as the internet. It may be banned in some countries, but never world-wide. There will be legal and technological shake-ups that may lead to periods of increased site closings, and individual sites will come and go, but porn itself will always survive online.
I replied "quite a few days go to waste," but it is not really wasted. When I go to a paysite, I usually go on a download marathon right away and get everything that I want. Then I just hang out and see the updates, but that doesn't require checking in every day.
I've never had this happen to me at a paysite, although I'm sure it happens most times a site closes. Often they still allow existing members to log in even if new sign-ups are not allowed. I definitely joined plenty of sites that are not updating, many in varying states of disarray, and unfortunately some that were completely empty (I did get my money back). I've also been allowed back in a few that were officially closed for new memberships, which was really nice! While not a paid membership, I did have a free membership at the amateur site picland.to when that closed. They handled the closing very badly. No one including the thousands of amateurs who uploaded their pics had any notice of the upcoming closure. They just deleted everyone's pics and started forwarding their domain to another site. Lots of people lost their only copies of their personal pics, but there was nothing anyone could do.
I do consider it a loss when I miss out on porn sites I intended to see. I usually have a running list of the next sites I want to join, and this year I saw BodyParts.biz disappear just months before I would have joined, and that was tough.
It is much easier for porn to be lost for good than other types of content too, due to the way it is shared. Consider that, if any popular artist was removed from all sites where you can purchase mp3's, literally everything would still be available from hundreds of sources online. Now with porn, that is very different. On one hand, I think that the impact of sharing has hurt porn sites a lot more than music sales. On the other hand, usually only a small portion of the content from any given site can be found for free, so if the site goes, there is no complete digital record of its existence.
This is actually a rare good year for sites with peeing content though. While BodyParts.biz is the only site to have closed, two old sites have come back online - JustinesBedroom.net and Wetscape.com. Wetscape by the way is huge for peeing fans with a taste for the older material, since it is basically the original, quintessential large peeing site that was ever online. Gone since 2008, Tramp Stamp Studios brought it back.
"What LPee said - double his comments. I love it. Especially watching women pee. It is so hidden and forbidden, that just makes it all the more exciting. Yes it is a fetish that some are not interested in. But it is also a fetish that some of us can not get enough of. One of my fantasies would be almost like reverse bukkake, to have a whole bunch of women stand around and over me, and then pee on me until I am soaking wet."
Yeah, that would be awesome. Along those lines, I would like to have all my favorite porn stars take turns peeing in a big cup in front of me, then allow me to have a warm drink.
Yeah, that is true. The reason why pee is OK but sea water is not is that sea water is more concentrated than the saltiest pee that the body can make, so the sodium builds up to dangerous levels. Pee is fine for survival though. In the worst case, it is as concentrated as possible, and you just pee it out again with no gain in water.
Yes, pee would require refrigeration, although it's best fresh from a lady. While it may seem dirty, pee is literally the most sterile fluid that the body releases. Spit and sweat both have thousands of different types of bacteria in them, and pee is almost completely sterile.
I love it, and I have wondered if there is a genetic difference too. Genetic differences do affect our sexuality, as many scientists and advocates for LGBT rights are increasingly showing. Pee is involved in the sexuality of a small number of non-human mammals, and there it is almost certainly genetic. There may be a gene in humans, who really knows? I just know I was interested in pee from as early as I can remember, so that interest was always a part of me.
I do not see the appeal in watching porn on a smart phone. Small screen, limited storage, censored version of internet (in many countries including UK), lack of digital privacy. Seems like a very bad idea.
I focus more on pictures, and I am very surprised by the results of this pole. My experience in seeing the collections of others suggests a very different result. I have one of the largest collections of peeing porn, and I have seen several hundred more than my own. It is a rare and happy day when I come across someone who has half the focus on photos that I do.
Both pictures and videos can be great. Videos are best when they engage both sight and sound to their fullest erotic potential. My favorite videos feature the filthiest dialogue imaginable. The drawback of video for me is that anything that can be shot in video, even in HD, can be shot in much higher resolution in pictures. Plus, whenever you see that perfect shot in a video, you want to pause it - well, that's a photo!
There is also a different art that goes into shooting pics and video. For me, the art of shooting pics is often more appealing. One moment, captured in time.
It's too bad that the focus for producers has shifted to video. There are sites that continue to shoot amazing high resolution pics, but they are in the minority, and among my favorites.
If you wait long enough, every object in life ends up in one of two places: a museum/private collection or the trash. Porn is just like everything else. Fortunately, there are museums of sex in NY and NV! And plenty of private collectors!
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