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stingerxxx (10) 05-20-13  04:36am
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No access to DDF network

If you join through this site - like I did - you don't get access to the DDF Network. For a couple of extra dollars, I could have had the entire network!

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TheSquirrel (53) Ouch that hurts. That's another thing that's wrong with online porn. Too much obscure small print, dirty tricks, and just awful organisation and standards so no one knows value relative to their money. You end up with a bad feeling after having subscribed. You feel like you've been ripped off because you are paying virtually the same but are treated differenttly.
05-20-13  07:00am

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Ace DDF (48)
Webmaster
Hello Again Manast,

DDF Network is the the Site you must Join to have access to all 13 of our websites. It doesnt state anywhere on Hands on Hardcore that it is a Network of sites, so we apologize for the confusion there.

However, Hands on Hardcore does now have 3 Exclusive Updates Per week, and will be seeing some more action real soon. We are also in the Process of Building a DDF Style Hardcore Portal, with only Hardcore content. So if someone only wants Hardcore Action, its still a great deal. Cheers.

-Ace

05-21-13  07:14am

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Ace DDF (48)
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REPLY TO #1 - TheSquirrel :

Hi Squirrel,

Actually, all you have to do in most cases, is contact the webmasters of the sites. Easy Peezy. They dont want bad business, if they are in good business. We have been around for a long time, and were not out to rip anyone off. It bothers me that users can so easily write damaging comments that are not credible at all. If you do your homework when your shopping for quality Porn, you would check out multiple review sites, such as Porn Users, Rabbits Reviews, Pornadept, etc, and see what you get for your money.

Recently we have dropped our Prices tremendously, and when you think about what you actually get for your money, were the ones actually being ripped off. You can Download Full HD Exclusive, quality movies and Photos that took alot of time and hardwork, with amazing women fulfilling fantasies on a regular basis. Plus Archives with so much Porn that I dont care how horny a customer is, they would be challenged to watch it all. Thats my two cents. Were not ripping anyone off. Happy Surfing!

-Ace

05-21-13  07:20am

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TheSquirrel (53) REPLY TO #3 - Ace DDF :

I appreciate your comments and agree with some of them. On price for instance you wont get any argument here. I have said a number of times that porn is ridiculously cheap or dirt cheap. I also said I would be willing to pay more.

It's a shame there are too many inconsistencies when joining networks or sites. I have criticised many sites for those inconsistencies and also for regional discrimination and pre checked cross sells.

If not for the cross sell I would have joined DDF ages ago, as I think it is tremendous value for money. I would also give it the benefit of the doubt when it comes to inconsistencies and customer complaints.

Sites who practice cross selling for me don't get the benefit of the doubt because they are clearly trying to trick customers. I recently contacted customer service of one network who admitted that customers don't like cross selling as they find they have signed up unintentionally for something. Very honest of the representative to admit that.

Not that DDF is on its own there. More sites rather than less seem to be resorting to trickery to get the money nowadays, and a number of them are what would otherwise considered to be reputable places.

It's not all black and white, and your prices are, yes, ridiculously cheap, and great value for money. More could be done to make sure everything is streamlined and transparent so customers know what they are getting relative to others, and get a good feeling about handing over their credit card details rather than a bad one. A bad one and the porn industry as a whole, not just that site or network, stands to lose that customer.

05-21-13  10:26am

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stingerxxx (10) REPLY TO #2 - Ace DDF :

Hi Ace,

I agree that Hands On Hardcore doesn't state that you get access to the DDF Network. I relied on the review in TBP which states "for close to $27 bucks per month, one can expect to gain access to a highly organized archive of high quality babes in hardcore pictures (79,100) and video (791), as well as complete Network access to all DDF Network sites". The review is wrong.

Cheers.

05-22-13  12:54am

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Ace DDF (48)
Webmaster
REPLY TO #5 - stingerxxx :

Hello Manast,

Thanks for letting me know about the Review. I will write to them Asap and have that changed. Much appreciated and thanks for the response and feedback!

05-22-13  02:06am

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Ace DDF (48)
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REPLY TO #4 - TheSquirrel :

Hello Squirrel,

Thanks for your detailed comment as well. Much appreciated. We totally understand regarding the cross sell on our site. Unfortunately is something that has been working quite well with minimal negative impact, though I have forwarded your comment to our team at Gammae to see if there any other alternatives for using these kind of cross sales.

The only thing I disagree with is that its trickery, or hidden. The cross sale is in plan site, and can easily be unchecked. Personally, if it was hidden, I wouldnt like that either., but its quite obvious were it is positioned on the Join Form.

Thank you though for your honest opinion. The last time someone brought this up I also mentioned it to Gammae, so we'll see what happens, but int he meantime, the other thing is that we have 24 hour customer service at www.ddfsupport.com, and if anyone problems are not resolved there, please always feel free to drop me a line at - webmaster@ddfcash.com, and I will make sure its resolved. Have a great day!

05-22-13  03:22am

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TheSquirrel (53) REPLY TO #7 - Ace DDF :

Thank you for taking the trouble to post a comprehensive reply. I would say that likewise the cross sale is in plain site and therefore can easily be checked. The reason cross sales work is because of the ones that are missed and go unchecked by people who are to embarrassed to complain to their credit card companies, and too embarrassed and/or tired or don't have the time to go through the complaints process at online porn sites. This is why they make a profit for sites.

There are only a few like me who refuse to join sites who have them. It was honest of that reperesentative recently who told me customers don't like them because they sign up inadvertantly to something they don't want. Their cross sale may be more hidden than DDF's of course. Some are worse than others. But if you have to start thinking if there's a cross sell, if so, how hidden it is, or how reputable a company is, you're not going to give your credit card details. This hurts everyone in the long run.

Obviously I have a bee in my bonnnet about this one. I am a complainer, and want transparency not only in the porn world, but freedom of speech everywhere. It's a pipe dream of course, and isn't going to happen but you can only do your best.

I do appreciate your reply. I hope the cross sell is eventually removed as I would like to subscribe to DDF.

Thank you for your attention.

05-22-13  06:27am

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