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messmer (137) 12-12-08  07:55am
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Picture sets are not downloadable in zipped form. So be aware of this if you are a collector.

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WeeWillyWinky (88) Thanks for the heads up, messmer.
12-12-08  03:08pm

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #1 - WeeWillyWinky :

You're welcome, www. I got a strange reason for not zipping the pictures from the webmaster but am still waiting to get his okay to make his email public. I thought I'd put it in the forum and see how many of my fellow PUs agree with his reasoning but don't want to violate the confidentiality of an email.
12-12-08  06:04pm

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cris171 (3)
REPLY TO #2 - messmer :

As this strange person is well aware, if a user wishes to mass copy pictures from a website, there are plenty of free software programs that allow anyone to do this, with very little effort. We have literally thousands of satisfied and returning customers. Please note that our main critisers are those who have never once joined the site!!!

One final point, if you have a favourite hotel, or restaurant etc., do a quick search on google to read "user reviews". They will almost all be negative! Unfortunately there are a few people in the world who just love to criticise and they are generally the ones who participate in sites like this, it's a sad fact of life.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank those many members and supporters of our site who quietly keep coming back to enjoy the uniqueness and high quality of Mature-Erotic and its sister site. We have one of the highest levels of returning customers in the industry. I hope that speaks for itself.

12-13-08  04:28am

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #3 - cris171 :

For one thing, it is unseemly for a webmaster to attack publicly someone who approaches him with an honest question, for another thing, I never complained about your site but instead kept telling you that it would be just what I was looking for except for the fact that your picture sets could not be zipped.

Your answer above is even stranger than the one you gave me in your email. You stated that you refused to zip your picture sets because of your fear of wholesale downloads that could be distributed illegally and I pointed out to you that if that were the case someone who knew how to use the right software could do that easily anyway.

Now you take my argument, twist it, and suggest that if the sets can be downloaded with these programmes, why bother zipping!

Seeing that you paint me as one of those chronic malcontents I wish I could reproduce our whole correspondence in our forum but still feel honour bound never to publish emails unless I have the approval of the sender, something I am still waiting for! I did publish a part of it above in order to clarify a statement you made but that couldn't be helped, seeing that you brought it up.

Summing up: I fail to see the reasoning behind your strange decision (yes, it is strange when the rest of the porn sites have been offering zipped picture sets for years ... and have been surviving nicely) and am curious why you say nothing condemnatory about people who use special programmes to get the whole set of pictures while you condemn zipped picture sets!

12-13-08  08:30am

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PinkPanther (46) REPLY TO #3 - cris171 :

Yes - wouldn't the world be nice if everyone would keep their lips tightly zipped and just give their credit cards over to businesses and web sites and never raised a peep about any issue - ahhh, the peace and tranquility.

Damn those strange people and their opinions and comments!

12-13-08  09:18am

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lk2fireone (196) If there are no zip files on the site, you could probably use a software program like BlackWidow (nonfree), or a freeware version of the same type of program, to download your picture sets.

Glamdeluxe had no zipped files of its photosets when I was a member. So I paid for BlackWidow to download the photosets. Downloading individual pictures took a large amount of time. After I paid for BlackWidow, I found there are free programs that are supposed to do the same thing, and a couple of those programs are highly rated.

12-13-08  09:43am

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lk2fireone (196) Just as an aside, the reason given for lack of zipped photosets at Glamdeluxe is basically the same reason messmer said was given by this webmaster: fear of piracy.

Fear of piracy does not make a lot of sense to me, as a reason to not include zip files. Is a pirate going to refuse to download pictures from a web site from some sense of honor or horror because there are no zipped files?

But different people believe different things. That's life. It's certainly easier to have zip files on a site, and most sites I've joined have them.

Maybe if enough members complain, or--to put it more politely--suggest that zip files would be an important feature, that might make a difference to some web sites.

But we don't control the world. Not even the porn sites that we have joined.

12-13-08  09:56am

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #7 - lk2fireone :

You are right, of course. But we can control which sites we join. With me zip is an issue just like download limits or DRM are issues for others. Too bad, because I really liked the look of the site!
12-13-08  11:10am

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #6 - lk2fireone :

If I had found out AFTER I joined the site that pictures were non-zipped I would have turned to those programmes to get the sets but normally I make sure that I don't join a site where you have to go to extra-ordinary lengths to get the pictures you have paid for. Before this incident it's only happened to me on some British Bonus sites that came with a subscription to another site, so this non-zip policy must be a U.K. thing.
12-13-08  11:17am

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TheRizzo (23) REPLY TO #8 - messmer :

I agree Messmer, by now most sites should have zip files of their photos as its pretty much a standard thing now.

However that would not have been the back breaker to stop me from joining.

This webmasters response and attitude however is. I will cross Mature Erotic off my list of mature sites.

12-14-08  07:04am

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #10 - TheRizzo :

Hi Rizz, to me non-zipped picture sets are literal back breakers (I have a back problem) because it requires painstaking effort on my part to save the pictures one by one. Never caught on to using the applications that are supposed to make it easy.

The web master's response is typically European (no slight intended because I'm of European origin myself) but in the U.K. as well as on the Continent the customer is not always King. Their business model is frequently, don't dare question my methods, it's "my way or the highway." Quite an arrogant attitude toward someone who is potentially their bread and butter but it is deeply ingrained and they take that sort of rudeness for granted. The web master closed his remarks to me with: "this site is not for you!" In other words buzz off, I have no intention of changing.

There are businesses, of course, who have learned their lesson and now lean over backward to oblige, but their number is not great.

12-14-08  07:22am

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