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messmer (137) 11-19-08  12:57pm
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Adding to some of the comments!

In my opinion none of the ATK sites is what it used to be.

A few years ago someone found that a certain formula worked and they've been stuck in that mode ever since. I subscribed to Galleria, a deeply disappointing experience for me (too much sameness in the various picture sets) despite the raves of others.

Re-subscribed to ATK Natural and Hairy and found, this time around, mostly unexciting photography and photographers who should either retire or change their way of shooting a set of pictures. Videos have stayed of the same quality over the years rather than advancing with the new technology available.

The one thing that really drove me crazy was the unresponsive attitude on the part of the webmasters. In their "Forum," the monthly cover states and has been stating "Amatures" for months.

I sent, not complaints, but observation after observation that for a company with the reputation of ATK, specializing in amateurs it was an embarrassment to keep misspelling "Amateur" on the cover of their monthly magazine and never got an answer or a change. Months later it probably still reads "Amature!"

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Drooler (220) I'll have to agree that the formula problem is quite common at ATK Premium. It wasn't that way when they started, although the material developed its own formulas which I didn't care much for, either: girls doing laundry and ironing, listening to music with earplugs stuck in, etc. Really, it didn't work.

But I won't say that formulas never work. I have my own formula stuck in my own head. The key is certain photos for ass worship. My problem with ATK Premium is that I don't enough satisfaction for my own formula-driven "needs."

But it's not always the case. With certain photographers, they hit it nicely, at least sometimes. But Alica S, whose photography has been very prominent at the site recently, doesn't do it the way I want it very often at all. I don't care for the strange skin colorings that she produces, either.

But at least there was one set recently of Brea Bennett that Alicia S did that really hit the mark for me. It was indeed an exception, though.

The photographers who try to change their ways do run the risk of doing things new that won't be liked very much, either. Peter Hegre was doing food smearing and such for a spell, thanks to some knobs who kept encouraging it on his forum, and I just hated that stuff! Hope that little experiment is over for good.

11-20-08  03:41am

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #1 - Drooler :

I agree that experimenting with new stuff has its dangers, I certainly would be turned off by food smearing! :-) Do you have sets by Toby at "Premium?" He's the photographer that drove me crazy on the other ATK sites with his bluish/pinkish tinges to just about every set they published. And he's ubiquitous ... I found him everywhere, it seemed. AllOver30 was one of the sites. However, I find some of his latest sets quite acceptable so maybe some of my criticisms got through.
When it comes to formula, Older Women and Aunt Judy were the worst.

11-20-08  07:45am

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Drooler (220) REPLY TO #2 - messmer :

I just checked and yes, there are 172 sets by Toby at Premium. I did notice one with the "blue tinge," but most of them looked, well, untainted (?).

I could be completely wrong but I wonder if the intensity of tinging has anything to do with the type of monitor. When I got my most recent Dell box, two years ago, it came with a flat screen monitor that I just couldn't stand for photo viewing. Had to go back to my old (nearly 10-year-old) CRT. Forgive me, Al Gore. But maybe it's just me, bein' hyper-picky 'n all.

I recently came across just one food smearing pic set that I kind of liked. The girl had mashed what looked like an Eskimo Pie onto her own pie of hair. It looked yummy.

But I hate them smearing the stuff all over their tits and legs and stuff. And anyway, NONE period would be OK.

11-20-08  11:51am

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #3 - Drooler :

I know it's a stretch but could "Premium" have taken the pictures and corrected the color tone before publishing them? I agree that CRT monitors sometimes give you a better picture but when I look at picture sets of two different photographers one looks great the other looks bluish/pink on the same flat screen monitor. Toby's sets (not all) also look darkish compared to others. When I complained at AO30 the answer was that he uses some sort of screen to soften and tint his sets, while SeanR, at the other extreme slightly over-sharpens HIS sets. And to end on a positive note, I noticed yesterday that Toby's shoot of my favorite model was, for once, just right! Hooray!
11-20-08  01:00pm

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WeeWillyWinky (88) REPLY TO #4 - messmer :

I don't know, messmer, but I never noticed anything "darkish" or otherwise physically different about Toby's sets on ATK's various sites or in his work elsewhere. I did notice that his sets were extremely predictable and instantly recognizeable, at least with the older material, which comprises most of what I've seen since I'm not into the new style of softcore at all. Predictable as in: girl in doorway, expose one breast, expose other breast, lift skirt, turn around, get on floor, lift knees, open knees, turn on side, turn over...done. The models spent WAY too much time on the damn floor in most of Toby's vintage sets.

Over-all, however, I do agree that ATK lags behind some of the premier sites and are resting on their laurels technically and esthetically. I have always enjoyed my visits to their sites because of the sheer amount of content and the wide variety of photographers they use. But I do visit now far less than I did in the years past.

11-20-08  11:04pm

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #5 - WeeWillyWinky :

To me most "Tobys" have a distinct flavor, www. When I was still a member of ATK Natural and Hairy (only a very short time ago) I would take one look at "today's update" and say to myself: Oh, boy, here's another Toby, because it looked darker than the others! The tinge was not quite so obvious until one opened a picture in the set. And, man, do I agree about the boredom factor when it comes to his sets.

But, in his defense, I think most photographers have become very predictable. I saw three different "stocking" sets on one site where three different models sat on the identical stool, in the identical kitchen doing identical poses. :-)

As a positive PS, as I told Drooler, I just downloaded one of Toby's sets of my favorite model and while it is predictable the tinge is not present!

11-21-08  07:18am

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