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Denner (235) 03-07-08  08:17am
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WARNING: What is it about DVD and non DVD???

Just joined this half-good site again, and again and again...
Half good because the video-quality is generally less than most other places. Better because of the hugh amount.
BUT, man: Joined the cheap way first (9.95), again, because the more expensive DVD-membership has NOT done it in former membership.

And what do I do - upgrade (again), silly me.....

NO NEED - the SOCALLED DVD-quality is NOT better than the socalled high resolutions in video - just MUCH bigger in file-size.

Did some/several downloads of the same files in those two - alleged qualities, but: NO significant difference in vewing-pleasure - or no-pleasure!!
Hope I can stay away in the future.

Do not like your game with us users, VideoBox.....

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jd1961 (95) I always thought it was the cheap price that hooked people (and reviewers) to this site. I'd rather pay more for quality.
03-07-08  01:20pm

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RagingBuddhist (65) Denner - I'm curious what the specs are on your PC. Could it be your video card and/or monitor that's keeping the DVD quality stuff from looking better? Sure, there are a good number of files that just look magnified but, for the most part, the big files look sharper to me - especially the ones where the difference in file size, between DVD quality and the "regular quality", seems extraordinarily high.
03-07-08  04:23pm

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Thaeral (8) REPLY TO #1 - jd1961 :

Personally, it's variety, for me, that keeps me subscribed. It also functions like a porn IMDB database for me because sometimes I see a girl on another site that I really liked. I can look her up on VideoBox generally get a full page of scenes for that girl.
03-07-08  08:58pm

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Denner (235) REPLY TO #2 - RagingBuddhist :

Hey RB
My PC works just fine - I have several/hundreds of absolutely crisp fullscreen videos on my HD.

At Videobox I've in this term of membership downloaded some 5-6 clips i both DVD and highresolution (ex. a couple of clips with Alexis Love) There's hardly any difference in quality - and certainly not compared to the file-sizes. The same goes for some older stuff - ok I may find some better quality along the way...
Still I haven't found the upgrade worth the money.

Do you have any examples were there's really a difference, please let me know...

03-08-08  12:25am

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exotics4me (463) Hey Denner,

I don't think it is something Videobox is doing. My understanding is that they buy the rights to the DVD then post just as it is on the DVD. Some studios use 640 high end as DVD resolution, others use 720 on the high end. As far as I know VB doesn't alter the videos at all. I'm not for sure with their multi-updates per day that they would even have time to alter the scenes.

I think the difference you are looking at between high and DVD is 480x352 is the top "high" quality. 720x480 is the top "DVD" quality. The average DVD quality clips are 640x480.

There really could be a difference depending on the size and type monitor you have. I have two computers, my wife uses one for business, it has a 17 inch regular view LCD monitor, on it, I can't tell much difference between the high and DVD videos. On my entertainment computer, I have a 24 inch HD widescreen monitor and I can tell a big difference between the high and DVD clips.

Hope that helps.

03-08-08  01:28am

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Denner (235) REPLY TO #5 - exotics4me :

Hey exotics4me

It sure set some things in perspective, thanks...

Still: I have great and crisp clips in 640x480 in much better screen-quality than what I've found untill now at VB...

(Don't know if it's the same kind of line af Pix And Video: The videos at the website are/were not great in quality - I found some of the same clips ripped- I thnik, it's called - from one of their DVDs and put on the "net" - what a difference in quality)

03-08-08  03:42am

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RagingBuddhist (65) REPLY TO #4 - Denner :

Check out the Tony's Amateur Tapes series. 720x480 looks sharp (although I'll admit it's not quite DVD quality), while the 480x352 is a bit grainy.
03-08-08  05:41am

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apoctom (145) REPLY TO #5 - exotics4me :

Thanks for the info. I have been a long-time member of VideoBox and I could usually see a bit of graininess in the high quality downloads. Then again, it could be psychological.

I appreciate the explanation of how VB gets the videos that it posts. Perhaps this is a question that we could also send to a VB webmaster or to their in-house blog.

Lastly, I am in the market for a new 24" monitor. What model do you have? Do you like it? What videocard are you using to drive it and at what resolution? Sorry for all of the questions, but I don't know anyone else with a 24" monitor.

03-08-08  06:15am

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Denner (235) REPLY TO #7 - RagingBuddhist :

Thanks, RB

Some of these files in DVD is as close to "crisp" as I've seen at VB... SO: it can be done.

03-08-08  08:44am

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exotics4me (463) REPLY TO #8 - apoctom :

Hey Apoctom, the monitor I am using is a LG L246WP-BN, I stumbled across it around Christmas for $549. I've been really happy with it, except it isn't that practical for everyday uses. Like typing emails, or even posting here, the resolution is so high 1920x1200, that you have to up the text size to the largest just to be able to read it. It makes some sites look strange too, like the General Entertainment sites, the actual calendar that shows their updates only takes up about 1/4th of the screen.

My wife has a 17 inch regular LCD not wide, that works better for everyday tasks, and is what I use for most of the things I do on the internet. My entertainment computer had a GeForce 8600 GTS video card in it, and really it worked great, but I was caught up in the 9600 GT and recently upgraded to it. Also have 4GB of DDR RAM.

Not really for sure why I went this high end since I'm not really much of a PC gamer, preferring console games, but it sure makes my videos look nice!

Also, if you get some of those high resolution pictures like on Babelicious or Met-Art, it looks like you have a poster on your desk with the 24 inch monitor. Thanks for the reply.

03-09-08  09:38pm

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exotics4me (463) REPLY TO #6 - Denner :

Hey Denner,

I was hoping you wouldn't take my reply wrong, and think I was having an attitude. I'm not really into the high tech computers myself. Just bought a new one this past Christmas and went ahead and got the bigger monitor. And thought I would share my experiences with it compared to the more regular monitors.

It also could be the bitrate of the videos that is causing the blurriness or not clear parts. I just joined porn.com the other day, they have pretty nice resolution 640 high end, but their WMV are only 1,000k bitrate, their DIVX files are the same resolution but are 2,000k bitrate and look much nicer. The bitrate seems to be where the smoothness of the video shows.

As I was telling apoctom, this new computer that my wife bought me for Christmas is a real monster of a computer, it has the top end video card in it and over 4000 RAM, so I probably am going to get clearer videos just by default because the computer is so fast and powerful.

I also think the file type can make a difference. Which is why I think in the TBP reviews you can notice where there take away for sites not giving many download options of file types. Try some DIVX files with a high bitrate and see if they don't look clearer to you. I'm starting to think WMV files are no longer the best.

Last, the bitrate also effects the size of the file, I had forgot to mention that in my last post. Those two videos that I used as examples in the other post have a large difference in bitrates as well. Both are Eva Angelina clips. Fabulous has a 4,586k bitrate which is very fast, but Don't Hide it, Divide It has a 7,540k bitrate which is extremely fast. I had read your post about the 1byday re-releases, that is what they are doing to those, raising the resolution and raising the speed of the bitrate.

I'm not quite technically savvy enough to say that a video card would make a huge difference, but I know a video card can make a difference in the frames per second that a video game runs at, which makes it smoother. That could be something you could look into. A good video card doesn't cost much over $100, and are a snap to put in, no technical ability required. But do try that with the DIVX clips and let me know if those look clearer than the WMV ones, so I can make sure I'm not losing my mind! Talk to you later.

03-09-08  09:56pm

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Denner (235) REPLY TO #11 - exotics4me :

No problemas - at all, pal.
And no way do I think you have "an atitude"

It's always good to exchange some info and experience.
BTW grapped a japaneese video-file at VB - and that one is just as crisp as can get.



03-10-08  07:22am

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