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jd1961 (95) 12-12-07  04:38am
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About The Japanese Mosaic

It is the law in Japan that genitals can not be explicitly shown in video and photography. The Japanese use a mosaic, which is a light blurring of these areas. That is the law in Japan. Therefore, it can not be counted as a negative any more than saying no underage material in western porn is a negative. The Japanese sites always explain this.

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asmith12 (124) On the other hand, there is pretty decent amount of Japanese-style anime out there without mosaic; to do it they just need to sell non-mosaic originals to non-Japanese company which isn't bound by Japanese publishing laws (another option is to produce Japanese-style anime outside of Japan). So from my point of view it is a definite and BIG minus (why I should be hit by Japanese laws? especially if there are perfectly legal ways to avoid it).
12-12-07  04:52am

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jd1961 (95) REPLY TO #1 - asmith12 :

I guess for the genitally obsessed, this would not be a good site. But my point is, it can't be counted as a minus, because it is the law. That's the culture, that's what you are getting here, it deserves respect for what it is. Material such as you mention, if produced in Japan, is a crime.
12-12-07  01:23pm

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asmith12 (124) REPLY TO #2 - jd1961 :

> I guess for the genitally obsessed, this would not be a good site.
For me it's not about genital obsession, it is about distraction and feeling that something is "f****ng censored". If there won't be any genitals from the very beginning (for example, using only angles with no genitals in sight) it wouldn't be a problem for me, but this mosaic drives me nuts (I hate censorship in any form; for me it's even worth than DRM :-) ).

> Material such as you mention, if produced in Japan, is a crime.
As far as I've heard, it is a crime NOT to produce, but to PUBLISH it in Japan (otherwise nobody would be able to shoot any porn or even erotic there as genitals aren't covered with mosaic when the actual thing happens :-) ).
If it is really the case, then it is perfectly legal to sell some uncensored footage to US company (maybe with a restriction "not to show/sell to Japanese users") which will be able to sell uncensored thing to the rest of the world. I've personally bought several uncensored Japanese DVDs in US (or was it in UK? I don't remember) shops (not Internet shops, but "real" adult shops), and I don't think real adult shops will deal with anything illegal when there are tons of perfectly legal things out there.

12-13-07  03:51am

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ace of aces (179) the may explain this but it`s still a reason for me not to join such a site never the less some asian sites are without the "mosaics".
12-13-07  04:22am

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jd1961 (95) REPLY TO #3 - asmith12 :

Exactly....Japanese are blocked from such sites. This site provides authentic Japanese porn, which is censored. You can't give a negative for what is. It would be like reviewing a BJ site, and giving it a negative for only having BJ's. That would be illogical.
12-13-07  05:26am

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jd1961 (95) REPLY TO #4 - ace of aces :

But this is not one of those sites. It is a site that provides authentic Japanese erotica. Authentic Japanese erotica is censored. Take it for what it is, not for what you wish it was.
12-13-07  05:28am

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jd1961 (95) REPLY TO #3 - asmith12 :

That's fine that you don't like mosaics, I don't like lesbianism. But if I review a lesbian site, I'm not going to give it a negative because it has lesbianism in it !
12-13-07  05:31am

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asmith12 (124) REPLY TO #7 - jd1961 :

Quite a difficult question. For example, if I review site with lesbianism and I like it, but I don't like the way it's shot, should I lower the rating? Probably yes. Moreover, even if EVERYBODY does it "wrong" (from my point of view), but there is one site that does it "right" - should I make the ratings different? Probably yes too. But this is exactly the case which we're discussing - there are tons of sites with "mosaics", but there are a few without; should I put higher rating for those without if I hate mosaics? I think so.

PS Not that I personally will ever knowingly join the site which has mosaics - that's what PU is for :-); the main thing is to make it clear in review, and the rest is not THAT important.

12-13-07  06:31am

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jd1961 (95) REPLY TO #8 - asmith12 :

I'll try this one more time...Authentic Japanese erotica is what you would view if you lived in Japan. It is what it is. All the best girls are in authentic Japanese erotica. If you were Japanese and lived in Japan, this would be your porn. This is a site that provides authentic Japanese porn. If you do not like authentic Japanese porn, don't join. If you like authentic Japanese porn, this is the best site I have seen.
12-13-07  08:52pm

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elephant (64) I don't understand japanese porn culture and why they censor genitals yet pretty much everything else goes, I just find it a little odd why they do it.
12-14-07  03:04am

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asmith12 (124) REPLY TO #9 - jd1961 :

> If you do not like authentic Japanese porn, don't join.
While it's still possible to argue about the term "authentic", there is no point in it. What about the following: you will write in caps in your reviews of such sites: "THOSE WHO DON'T LIKE MOSAICS DON'T BOTHER", and I (and people alike) will never join such a site. Deal? :-)

12-14-07  03:52am

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jd1961 (95) REPLY TO #11 - asmith12 :

How about this? Those who don't like when cocks are covered by mosaics don't bother joining? Deal?
12-14-07  05:04am

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asmith12 (124) REPLY TO #12 - jd1961 :

Just put it in caps so it will be obvious on the first glance at the review :-).
12-14-07  05:08am

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jd1961 (95) REPLY TO #13 - asmith12 :

ASMITH 12 WILL BE UNHAPPY BECAUSE THE COCK IS COVERED BY A SQUIGLY MOSAIC
12-14-07  05:11am

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asmith12 (124) REPLY TO #14 - jd1961 :

Come on, there is no need to go that personal; I'm sure there are LOTS of people like me out there. See for instance review of m64bob. BTW, if being exact, it is not only cock which is covered, pussies are also covered, aren't they?
12-14-07  05:15am

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Khan
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Might I offer that it is perfectly valid for JD to feel that a Japanese site NOT be faulted for blurring genitals. May I also offer that it is EQUALLY VALID for others to feel that the blurring deserves noting and even counting off for. Both are PERSONAL OPINIONS. To argue at length (beyond the initial explanation of why you hold your opinion) about someone else's personal opinion is (to a great degree) pointless.
12-14-07  07:35am

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Traveler (0) The worst thing about the mosaic is when then they focus on the genitals in video shots and they have to cover it in mosaic so that's all you see.pixelation.What's the point?
Lose the close ups.

05-09-08  08:30pm

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CaliFornicator (7) REPLY TO #4 - ace of aces :

All true Japanese porn has mosaics I think this is why a lot of it is bukkake so that you see the baby batter that is not censored vs the close up gonzo style of wester porn, that being said I have found a few authentic vids that are uncensored. Not on J Sex or XVN, which I was formerly a member to, but on asia movie pass where i am currently a member, they have a uncensored section, its small like 20 dvds but every couple of weeks they will add a uncensored japanese DVD. Not sure how they do it but it seems authentic...might be made in usa, with JAV pornstars on a work visa or something...I dont really mind the mosaics that much but its nice to see the real thing...
07-13-08  09:02pm

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walnut (0) Well, if the site is being marketed to the western world then remove the pixels!!!!!
03-27-09  08:50am

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