I don't mind the newer stuff, but I agree that his older work is better. Trained Teens 1 remains one of my all-time favourite movies. It was the first time I had seen Stacy Carpenter and that scene was so well done. If that was the only great scene on the DVD that would have been enough, but the scene with Gauge and Aurora Snow is also incredible. And the remaining scenes only look merely good when compared to those two even though if they were on another DVD title they'd be stand-outs there.
If it would be useful for you I could either email you a list of series and editions or even post a list as a comment.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- HD available in new titles
- SD looks good
- Access to a lot of older titles
- Supports download managers
- Access to a good mix of older and newer JJ stuff
- Newer DVDs appear to be uploaded shortly after release
- Bills through Epoch
- Updates regularly
Cons:
- Site not organized by DVD title
- Small site
- Download speeds can vary
- Need a membership to a second Jules Jordan site to get all the scenes from some DVDs
- Search function could use some improvement
- Updates by adding only one scene at a time
Bottom Line:
After two memberships to sites that I’d not normally have joined due to their focus on older (25+) and busty women, I figured I’d better join a site that I knew I’d like: a DVD-based, raw hardcore site with a healthy dose of anal scenes.
Jules Jordan is probably one of those producers who’s work you either like or don’t. He started with Evil Angel many years ago and has continued to produce some excellent porn if you like your porn with a rougher edge and heavy dose of anal sex. He’s no Max Hardcore though, and his work was certainly a good fit for Evil Angel. If you like EA stuff you’re apt to like JJ stuff.
The site is organized in a straightforward way in that you can sort by all scenes, older scenes, HD scenes and by models. Clicking on either of those will bring up a list with large thumbnails that you can further open to get what you’re looking for.
The individual scenes open to a new page with a large window for streaming (which, thankfully, doesn’t start automatically). There are links for streaming choices and for download choices. In the newer scenes streaming is available in HD, SD and mobile, and the same is usually available in HD (1080p and 720p), SD and mobile for downloads. The only file type is mp4. The videos looked good (I downloaded 720p when it was available). Obviously older files shot in SD don’t look as good but they’re still watchable.
The site supports download managers and links don’t time out quickly. Download speeds were usually good at 6+MB/s using IDM though there were times (infrequently) when it could be half that.
The good news is that you have access to 124 DVDs. I’m not sure how many DVDs Jordan has produced but IAFD doesn’t seem to list too many more than that. This means that you have access to a lot of his older titles and still have access to new releases. The newer releases seem to get uploaded shortly after they hit the DVD market. The bad news here is that with only 124 DVD titles this is still a pretty small site. And it’s destined to stay that way for a while since the site only updates with one scene being added every two days. On some days two scenes get added, but that isn’t frequent. The other downside to this is that if you’re looking for a specific scene in a movie you might have to wait a while to get it.
I’ll admit this may be subjective, but on a DVD-based studio site it seems logical to me that the scenes be arranged by the DVD they appeared on. For example, if you want to check out Ass Worship 3 you should be able to sort by DVD title, select that title and see the scenes in that movie. But for some reason the site isn’t set up this way, even though the DVD title will appear as a tag in a scene. Not to get too confusing here, but let’s say you open a scene with a star you like. The thumbnail and link will give no indication of which DVD the scene is from, but when you open the link there will be a tag with the DVD title that you can then click on to see all the available scenes from that title.
An obvious work-around would be to just enter the DVD into the search function, right? Sort of, but if you search “Ass Worship 3” be prepared to scroll down past the first four or five links because those first links won’t be scenes from the DVD you’re looking for. Aim for the fifth or sixth scene and open it and you might just have a scene from Ass Worship 3 with a link to the DVD that you can then follow through to see the other scenes from that title. My description is confusing partly because the process is confusing.
To make this even worse, the tour pages have a “Movies” link which will take you to a page with thumbnail covers of all the DVDs on the site. When you enter the member’s page though, that link is gone.
What really hurts the value of a membership is the way that the studio has decided to release the videos. Besides this site the studio also has The Ass Factory. We can debate whether a single studio the size of JJ really needs two sites (I’d debate that they don’t) but the problem is that for most JJ titles you might get three scenes here and two at The Ass Factory, which means that to get more complete access to the JJ library you need to buy two $30 memberships. But I suppose if there are enough people like me who will pay for both there is no incentive to merge the two sites into one.
So is the site worth a membership? It depends on who you are. If you really like Jordan’s stuff it probably is. If it’s merely a passing interest for you there are probably better places to put your porn dollars. The porn is excellent, but the site needs a rethink on a couple of key problems and the fact that the site is small and the DVDs are spread over two sites makes the value lower than it should be.
(As an aside, if you want a membership to only one JJ site I’d recommend this one over The Ass Factory. AF is a much smaller site for the same fee. I’ll try to get a review to that up soon.)
This was one of my favourite sites when it was updating. With so many male porn stars now getting into their 40s and even older I'd be easy to start this site again. Guys like Steven St. Croix, Steve Holmes, Dick Chibbles, Tommy Gunn and others paired with some fresh talent and this site could be a success again.
Thanks for reviewing this site. Back when it was active it was one of my favourite sites because it had a niche I love - old guy, young girl - with American models. I've been dropping in to the tour page but the way it's set up it's hard to tell if there are any new scenes since the last time I was there. Thanks to you I now know that there aren't. you saved me some possible frustration.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Part of PornPros Network
- Discount through TBP / PU
- Multiple download options
- Streaming available
- No DRM
- Watermark is small enough to be ignored
- Pics available (both separate and screecaps)
- Pics available as a zip
- Supports download managers
- 77 exclusive scenes (as of review date)
- Site updates weekly
Cons:
- “HD” doesn’t look like true HD
- Not enough anal. (Yes, I know that’s very subjective.)
Bottom Line:
I realize that the niche of having old guys fuck young women is not for everyone, but if it is something you like to watch, this site is definitely worth checking out.
Many of the girls on this site are a “who’s who” of A-list porn starlets today, and the format is one that definitely accentuates their youthful appearances. Girls such as Ashlii Orion, Jaelyn Fox, Amai Lui and Jada Stevens all make appearances. Some lesser known (but hopefully up-‘n’-coming) girls like Cheyenne Cooper are also here. Each scene is approximately 30 minutes long and there is usually a stereotypical setup for a scene with a young girl and an older guy: teacher, supervisor, driving instructor or something similar to further accentuate the age difference between the girl and the guy.
The guys are obviously a bigger part of the scene than would be acceptable in most porn scenes, BUT they never really get in the way of scene like many younger, self-indulgent male models do. The guys seem to know that they’re there to help show off the girl. And they should know that since the guys have a lot of experience in the business. Since there aren’t too many geezers still actually working in porn today, the talent pool is pretty shallow. Rod Fontana is here, as are a few other ‘seniors’ who I can’t name. One of them looks like Adolf Hitler and another looks like a slightly younger version of Col. Sanders. Perhaps the biggest male name here is also the most polarizing: Ron Jeremy. You either love him or hate him. Ron appears in a large number of the scenes. That may be a testament to his reliability.
As for the technical bits, the site is pretty standard for a good porn site. There are 77 scenes posted (with updates being added). Each scene offers a trailer to get an idea if you want to download the scene. If you do want to download, you have three options: MPG, MP4 and WMV HD. The HD doesn’t appear to be true HD though. (1250x702 and 2651kbps bitrate. I’m not sure if that qualifies as HD, but it doesn’t look as sharp as I’m used to with other HD stuff.)
The site also offers photos. Both screencaps and actual photos are available, either individually or as a zipped set. The photos I looked at were high-resolution and looked great (3000x1996).
This is purely subjective, but there aren’t enough anal scenes here. Anal sex is a turn-off for some, but it is pretty mainstream and it is apparent in its absence here. It may be that most of the models don’t do anal (yet!), but of the 77 scenes there are only 4 or 5 anal, which seems low.
This site is part of a network that offers some interesting and innovative other sites, though for the $17.95 TBP discount price, this site alone is worth it. The network and individual sites are fairly simple and straightforward to use. There is no reliance on gimmicks. The search function is limited, but simple to use and effective.
If you like this kind of niche, I’d highly recommend this.
Great review. I prefer reviews with lots of detail and you certainly provided that. The iGB download limit per day seems awfully low. The site I'm a member at right now has videos twice that size. I can understand limits, but that's just too low!
There are several membership options available to this site. One of them only allows streaming while another allows both streaming and downloads. I paid the additional amount for downloads but when I went into the site and tried to download I was told I now had to buy additional 'tokens.' I cancelled my membership and contacted the site but have yet to receive a response. I also contacted CCBill to ask for a refund but they have yet to respond to me too.
Unless the site is willing to make good on what they sold me I strongly recommend avoiding it.
It isn't often that those of us who join straight sites would get an opportunity to review a gay site. I think it is a great idea that you did this since we only have a few gay/bi members here so adding gay site reviews is a good thing.
On a semi-related note, I've been a regular Kink subscriber off and on pretty much since they started. They have some of the best BDSM-themed porn available on the internet. I'm really happy that they turned their membership into a 'network' rather than subscribing to single sites. But my take (and I've read similar opinions here and elsewhere) is that Kink has lost some of its edge and may be slipping from its place at the top of the heap. What are your thoughts on that?
This will fall into the category of TMI but I've never, ever had the courage to open any of the gay Kink sites even now that there is full network access. I'd have no trouble at all reviewing a 'mainstream' gay site but as someone afflicted with really, really sensitive testicles there is no way I could watch any scene with cock and ball torture without passing out! :-)
I have to weigh in with pat on this. If Kink isn't THE most reputable adult group on the internet then they're in the top three. My experience is that that always respond to emails. Be patient and I'm confident that the issue will get resolved.
I really liked this site too. I didn't save a lot of the stuff that I downloaded but I did save some of it and like watching it occasionally. It isn't 'hot' in the same sense as traditional porn but I think given Kink's reputation it made sense for them to have these instructional videos.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Interesting and rare niche
- Part of the well-known Kink family of sites
- Good looking models
- Great production values
- 51 scenes
- Updates weekly
- Supports download managers
- Low price for admission to the Kink world
Cons:
- Likely too narrow a niche to attract many viewers
- New site design is less user-friendly
- Download speeds can be slower than average
- Wide gap in file sizes between highest and next-highest resolutions
Bottom Line:
BDSM and D/s is a porn niche that I enjoy. I’ve always found that Kink.com offers some of the best BDSM and D/s videos available anywhere. One of my wishes was they would show more behind-the-scenes or ‘how to’ videos since in most of their videos the model is shown already tied up, suspended or whatever without ever showing how she got there. Then there’s just the basic stuff of a BDSM or D/s relationship dynamic that seems fascinating. Members to any of Kink’s sites didn’t usually get to peek behind the curtains. And then along comes Kink University and that niche is filled.
It’s important to note that Kink isn't a traditional hardcore sex site, though there is sex here. It isn't a typical BDSM, D/s site either. All of the videos have an instructional element to them regarding the BDSM and D/s activities seen throughout Kink sites. You’ll find videos on rope tying for beginners and for more advanced couples, videos on how to safely use some toys, how to build a home dungeon and how to have anal sex. There are also videos on how to get into the lifestyle, how to use positions and protocols. In short, if you can see it on a Kink site there is probably a video at KU giving you advice on how to bring that home.
If you’re a Kink regular the models here are those you’ll be familiar with. Kink seems to have a group of semi-mainstream-porn models who do a lot of fetish work and those models appear here too.
Production values like lighting, sound and editing are all typical of Kink sites, which is to say that they are among the best in the industry. Kink obviously cares about putting out good videos.
The site is currently fairly small but given the uniqueness of the niche I can’t fault it for that. There are currently 51 videos available and a new one is added each week.
Clicking on a thumbnail for a scene opens another page where you have the option to stream or download it. I didn’t see any resolution options for streaming. Downloads are mostly offered in MP4 version with four resolutions being offered, those being listed as hi, med, low and ‘full’ which is HD. Because of the nature of the videos I opted for the ‘hi’ files since they were the best compromise between file size and resolution. Those come in at a fairly low (by today’s standards) resolution of 960x540 and 1300kb/s. They don’t look bad on a 24” monitor or a 32” TV. I avoided the full HD downloads because they tended to be up to three times the size of the next lower file. I did download one HD file to be able to compare the specs and it came in at 1280x720 and 5000kb/s. Those specs aren't bad but I’d expect better in a 50 minute video that is close to 2GB in size. I wish the gap between the files wasn’t so big.
The site allows download managers and I had no trouble with the links timing out too quickly. I haven’t had any Kink memberships in a while but I don’t recall download speeds being this slow in the past. In the past I don’t recall download speeds being remarkable for being slow or fast, but my experience with this site is that they are far slower than I’m used to seeing elsewhere. But maybe I’m just hitting the site at the wrong times.
Other Kink sites I’ve been a member at have offered photos but I don’t see any photos here. Maybe I’m missing them.
I know some of my comments here have seemed a bit inconclusive and there’s a reason for that: it appears that starting a few days ago Kink has started to roll out a new look for all of their sites. I found their old look to be simple, effective and easy to use. Maybe it’s just that the look is new and will take some getting used to. Right now though, the site redesign looks like it was done just to give it a fresh look. For all I know maybe members were complaining that the site looked stale, but I’ll always be opposed to change for the sake of change.
One spin-off advantage to having a membership here is that it is among the lowest priced Kink sites. That’s important since once you are a member to one site you get a discounted price to all their other sites. I usually join through the cheapest site I’m interested in and then over a period of a few months rejoin other Kink sites that I like at a discount. I can save a lot of money this way.
Like so many other sites any recommendation has to be objective. This site offers 51 scenes (and growing) in a niche that isn't found anywhere else (that I’m aware of), the models are good looking and the production values are high. Objectively I can definitely recommend this site. Subjectively, well that’s your call obviously. BDSM and D/s videos are still considered outside the mainstream for porn so the market isn't huge, and the market for this site is further reduced because not everyone into BDSM and D/s would be into these ‘instructional’ videos. But if you do have even a passing interest in this kind of video I recommend giving it a try.
I agree with you. That was a huge deal when I rejoined and discovered that. I re-downloaded all of my favourite scenes. The other good news is that they are now a 'network' and one subscription gets you access to all the sites.
I'd say that this is an excellent review, but that might sound self-serving. The fact is that if I were to write a review of the Kink network these days it would be pretty much identical to your thorough review.
I haven't been a member there in at least a year and I really can't explain why. I like what they produce and since they've turned it into a network it really is a great value for some of the best BDSM and D/s porn available. I think I'll have to rejoin to check out some of the new sites.
Like you, one of my favourite sites is Public Disgrace so I'm disappointed (but not surprised) that they've had to scale it back. Some of their older content is pretty extreme (in a good way!).
I chuckled at your comments regarding The Upper Floor. Your theory could well be accurate. It isn't a site I download a lot from when I have a membership.
I miss the original format that The Training of O used to use, namely one model (or maybe two) was put through a multi-day D/s, BDSM training session and came out the other end as a trained sub. I know they still have some multi-day shoots but they lack (in my opinion) some of the honesty that the older scenes seemed to have. A memorable example is the Asphyxia Noir scene where they push her fear of heights by putting her in a harness and hoisting her more than 100' in the air. Then they follow that with an honest-to-god waterboarding. Jesus! Other favourites are Amber Rayne. I miss her energy. The Madison Young scene where they take her to the roof and make her exercise in heels is another favourite.
Two scenes from Sex and Submission remain among my favourite porn scenes - Sasha Grey (playing a reporter) and Kat (playing a babysitter).
One site I still miss is Water Bondage. I wish they'd resurrect that one but I suspect the danger level was high and harder to control.
I didn't like it when Pissing became exclusively a girl-on-girl site. The males-on-female scene with Amber Rayne in a urinal is memorable.
As an anal fan Everything Butt is a favourite as well but I recall it went mostly girl-girl too. But it's hard to argue with big stars like Amy Brooke, Casey Calvert and Kristina Rose being anally fisted. (Hmmm... now that I think of it one of my favourite scenes with Amy Brooke being anally fisted was a Public Disgrace scene. She gets fisted and fucked in a pizza shop.)
I'd probably better stop writing now so I don't just turn this into a message about my favourite Kink stuff.
I'm a big fan of Kink too and would score it as high. But, also like you, I think Kink needs to consider what made it great and get back to that. They still are the best BDSM network on the internet and now that they offer a membership that allows access to everything they will remain that way for the foreseeable future. I agree that they need to get back to where they used to be and start a couple of new sites. It's possible that they haven't toned things down (though I think they have) but certainly other sites bring more passion to BDSM. Remember Water Bondage? That was an amazing site and I wish they'd bring that back. It's probably too expensive to produce though. The Training of O has also been toned down a lot. Remember the 'old' days where it really was BDSM training? I really liked some of those older videos filmed over four days with discipline training mixed in with some sex. I just don't 'feel' it with the newer scenes.
I have no insider information obviously, but I read on another forum that they sold the Armory where they used to set all their scenes. That might be a sign of some financial trouble. Their overhead was probably unsupportable given the level of piracy.
I wish them well because they still are the best 'mainstream' BDSM sites on the internet.
I'm not questioning your experience and I haven't been a member there since June of this year, but I've never had any issues downloading. The worst I've had there is that the download speeds are slower than I'm used to seeing but I was able to download and faced nothing like you report.
I hope what you experienced is just temporary. Can you add a comment and update us as your membership is coming to the end? I'd like to know how you make out.
And the lack of updates is too bad since this would be a great niche site if they chose to update regularly. It wouldn't be expensive or difficult to do.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Interesting niche
- A few great dancers
- A few well-known porn stars
- Discount for TBP/PU members
- Part of a small network of other sites
- Photos are available
- Files sizes come in two sizes
Cons:
- Very small site (only nine scenes)
- No updates
- Looks to have last updated when George W. Bush was still president… in his first term
- Scenes are broken up into smaller files
- Download speed would be considered fast only back when George W. Bush was president… in his first term
- No zip option for photos
- Trial membership is no longer available
Bottom Line:
EDIT - after spending time on the main sites of the network, I think the network is a decent value. See POVPorn.com review for more.
What PU doesn’t like strippers and lap dances? Certainly not me. I love the stripper niche, and I think lap dancing should replace that silly ‘sport’ where women dance around waving long ribbons at the Olympics. With lap dancing as an official ‘sport’ I could then double the amount of time spent watching the Olympics since I now only watch women’s beach volleyball. So when I discovered Lap Dance Gone Bad it was a no-brainer for me to give it a try.
This site is a pretty big disappointment. This is an under-served niche, and it isn’t exactly difficult porn to make. Hire a girl, put her on a set with a small stage and a pole, and let the fun begin. You’d think that they could churn this stuff out regularly. But they don’t. There are only nine scenes on this site. That’s nine, as in the number 9 and nothing else.
To make matters worse, of the nine scenes only one is available as a full-scene download. The others are made up of various smaller files. The files may have met industry standards when they were shot, but they certainly aren’t up to standard now. Most of the files are 480x360, so they are far from HD. Photos aren’t my thing, so I don’t really have any comments except to say that they are not available as a zip file.
The biggest technical issue that I have with this site is the download speeds. It was rare to see anything over 250KB/sec, which is well below what any of us would consider reasonable.
Apart from the small number of scenes and the slow downloads, if you like this niche these are fun scenes to watch. Most scenes feature porn stars (Haley Paige, for example) and the scene involves a blowjob and in a couple of cases, vaginal sex. There are no anal scenes at all. A couple of the scenes feature real strippers. I’m sure of this because of the talent they display on the brass pole. Unfortunately, the best dancer (Kylie) doesn’t use the other ‘pole’ in the room, leaving the guy to have a bit of a wank while she gyrates on him. This isn’t so much a lap dance gone bad, it’s more a lap dance gone wayward.
While I had hoped for a much larger site, the fact that there is a TPB/PU discount helps, but even the $19.95 price can’t nudge this into being a good value. If you really have an interest in this niche, you might consider it, or consider the additional material available on the bonus sites. Lap Dance Gone Bad appears to be one of the ‘bonus’ sites to the primary site, which is either Peter Girls or POV Porn. I’ll post a review of those when I have a look at them, but they aren’t really something that I’d join purposely.
The bottom line is that this is really buyer-beware. If you like lap dancing and don’t mind spending $20 to get nine scenes you might like this. Otherwise, the site is a poor value and I can’t recommend joining for this site alone.
This site part of the Diesel Access ‘network’ and is included when you pay an additional $10 when joining. I’d highly recommend that as it gives you access to 14 sites. This site features Kat, a petite, young Russian or eastern European model with red hair.
I should also add that this isn’t the American Kat who is well known to anyone with an interest in American hardcore porn.
Kat has mostly solo scenes and some g/g. She doesn’t do b/g scenes.
The site has 44 videos and 58 photo sets. Many of the videos come in multiple parts. It hasn’t updated since 2007 and there have been no new Kat scenes or sets added to Young Legal Porn or 18 Only Girls either.
Kat also has some material on Young Legal Porn and 18 Only Girls, which you’ll have access to if you pay the extra $10.
Agreed. I try to wait for sales - whether offered through here or an email offer. The good thing about email offers for me is that I rarely join 'new' sites these days. I have maybe 40 or 50 that I cycle through and often get decent offers to rejoin. But since I'm joining the same sites over and over that means that I have nothing to review.
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