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lk2fireone (196) 06-21-12  03:27am
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Site asks for username and password, and says the link may not be secure.

Sometimes, you're already in the members area, but you click a link to download a photoset or video, and you have to give your user name and password again. But what's worse, you see on the form where you enter the information, the notice: "The server uses Basic authentication, which means that the method used to send your user name and password to the server may not be secure."

So I log out, log in again, go to the model page, hit the link to download the video again, and I still get the popup asking for my user name and password, which the message that the method may not be secure.

As far as I know, I've never been a member of a paysite that asks me for my user name and password, at the same time telling me that I am using a link that may not be secure.

I've been blocked in the past, because a paysite said either my username or password had been hacked.

So I don't want to get blocked again, by using a non-secure link to send this information, that is supposed to be confidential.

But I still want to download content, and this is frustrating.

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Claypaws (44)
Is that notice given by the site, or by the browser? For example, in Firefox, you can set various warnings to show, or not to show, regarding sending data on forms over secure and insecure links.

Not sure if IE, Opera, Chrome etc have similar choices but they probably do.

The most likely one in Firefox is the warning about submitting information that is not encrypted. You can look at Tools>Options>Security>Warning messages to see what you have set.

Basic authentication is unencrypted.

Login and password details are usually - almost always - sent over an unencrypted, insecure connection. The only purpose of sending the login and password is to gain access to the site's server, which both transmits and receives via an insecure connection.

It is a long time since I had any details hacked. I think the most likely place for that to happen is via a site's signup page where they ask for data before you reach the billing agent (CC Bill etc).

06-21-12  08:38am

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gaypornolover (38) I've been getting the same message on a different site and I use Firefox. It did put me off a bit.
06-21-12  08:45am

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lk2fireone (196) REPLY TO #1 - Claypaws :

I use Firefox, because I believe it's less likely to give problems (viruses, malware) than IE.

But the message about the non-secure connection that is also asking for my username and password is not a message from Firefox, but from the X-Art site.

Sometimes that page comes up, sometimes it doesn't, when I try to download content (photoset or video) from the member area of X-Art.

06-21-12  08:57am

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lk2fireone (196) REPLY TO #2 - gaypornolover :

I use Firefox, as well.

I don't enter my username and password on a page that tells me the page link may not be secure.

I log out, and re-log in to the site, and try to download again. If I get the page popping up asking for my username and password and saying the link may not be secure, I try again.

The page that asks for my username and password also states the page link may not be secure.

It's not a separate page or popup that says the link may not be secure. It's the same page that is asking for the username and password--that also states the page link may not be secure.

Like I wrote, this is the first time I've ever encountered this. So I think it would be a mistake to enter my username and password on a page that tells me the link may not be secure.

But this is a paysite. So it's not like a bank. If it were a bank, I'd be calling them on the phone, and asking what the problem was.

06-21-12  09:13am

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tangub (155) I've been using IE on the site and so far have not encountered any of the problems you describe.
06-21-12  10:44am

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lk2fireone (196) REPLY TO #5 - tangub :

I've downloaded 12 photosets + videos, and had that warning pop up a few times.

But maybe I will use IE instead, and see if that helps.

Thanks for the tip.

(I just joined X-Art today again, and like the site a lot.)

06-21-12  10:56am

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Claypaws (44)
REPLY TO #4 - lk2fireone :

That is interesting. It makes it look like some feature within html itself, possibly javascript, that allows detection of an insecure link. I am no expert on html and still less so on javascript. It also suggests that there is a bug in the site's implementation of it.

But, as you say, it is not a bank. Input of login details on insecure links is absolutely standard practice except with banks etc.

I would rather use Firefox anyway, although IE would be safe at a site like X-Art. Not getting the message with IE could itself be a bug in IE or the site's code could be buggy in Firefox and not in IE.

On the very rare occasions when a site has blocked my login details for alleged password sharing, they have provided another set on being contacted and have managed to trace the problem to some error within their own organisation. I think it has only happened two or three times and at least six years ago.

So I would not worry about the message on the form - provided it did not also ask me for my credit card details ;-)

06-21-12  05:11pm

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brig (11)
Dear lk2fireone -

This is due to your web browser security settings/preferences, which you can modify to your liking at any time.

Your web browser is simply telling you that our website is using a method called HTTP authentication for username/passwords. Your username and password are encrypted and stored using a secure method, to prevent others from accessing the site with your login credentials.

This happens most often with certain versions of Internet Explorer, which by default have a very high level of security notifications. If it's annoying, you can change your browser settings/preferences - or try using a different browser, like Firefox.

You don't need to worry about your username/password anyway. We have a convenient system in place that blocks password abuse and sends you a new password right away if need be.

Of course, if you want to change your username/password or have any other questions questions, our Customer Support team is available any time - 7 days a week to help. You can contact us through the 'Support' link on the top right of every page on our site.

Hope that helps and answers your question! :-)


X-Art Webmistress

06-21-12  06:21pm

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lk2fireone (196) REPLY TO #8 - brig :

Thanks for the explanation. It relieves my worry about security, and makes using the site much easier. :)
06-21-12  08:50pm

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slutty (111) Aww man, you got some hugs and kisses out of that comment, how come I never get those?

For some reason, I always get logged out when I click behind the scenes after logging in here. Of course apparently I'm one of the only few the like BTS content. But I agree, really good site.

06-22-12  11:03pm

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lk2fireone (196) REPLY TO #10 - slutty :

slutty, I'm not sure how much those hugs and kisses are worth.
The reply is from brig, who lists himself as Webmaster. Brig stands for Brigham Field, the main photographer for X-Art photosets and videos.

But the reply also is signed "X-Art Webmistress", but without any name attached to the webmistress title.

It's not clear to me who was giving me those XOXOs.
However, I am willing to share them with you, my PU friend. :)

Anyway, I'm in the same boat as you, in getting logged out when I try to access the "Behind the Scenes" content. But I definitely think it's worth viewing, to get a flavor of the personality of some models, and how the photosets and videos are shot.

06-22-12  11:47pm

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slutty (111) REPLY TO #11 - lk2fireone :

I would assume it is the other person that posts stuff on their site colette, I'm sure they just use the same login...

Thanks for the sloppy seconds. ;)

06-23-12  09:48pm

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