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rearadmiral (384) 12-20-11  04:55pm
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Here are some stats on the Kink channel on Videobox

I know a couple of PU members expressed some interest in the Kink channel at Videobox, but for some reason you canít even tell itís there unless youíre a VB member. So for those of you who may be considering a VB membership and wondering about the Kink channel, here are some stats and thoughts on it.

- 254 Kink scenes from various Kinks sites
- scenes regularly added (sometimes daily, sometimes every second day)
- streaming available
- multiple download options (HD, WMV DVD, WMV High and iPhone)
- good download speeds
- allows download managers with the same long (or non-existent timeouts that VB has)
- good cross-section of most of Kinks sites
- membership price is pro-rated in your first month of VB membership

- only accessible through VB3
- no meaningful cataloguing of scenes and no easy way to tell which site theyíre from

Iím a big fan of Kink and I wonít bother discussing the material. If you donít know Kinkís material you should read reviews of their sites on TBP and PU as the material isnít for everyone. But for those who like BDSM stuff it doesnít get any better.

The Kink channel offers a great selection of scenes from most of Kinkís sites. The technical pros are mostly the same as VB: good download speeds, no obvious timeouts for download managers, etc. The pricing is interesting too in that it is pro-rated for your first month of VB membership. That can make this an excellent deal if you only want a few scenes Ė wait until the last week of your membership and then join.

Kink is only available as part of VB3. The biggest drawback for me is that opening a link brings up the streaming video. SO MAKE SURE YOUR SPEAKERS ARE OFF! Worse, you can pause it but it restarts again, sucking some bandwidth.

There is no obvious ways to sort the scenes. If all youíre looking for are Hogtied scenes youíll have to check every scene to find those. Thatís a problem that could be easily fixed since VB2 has scenes better sorted.

These are approximate numbers (I obviously screwed up the counting somewhere as I opened every file on the channelÖ) but itíll give you an idea of whatís there now:

Ultimate Surrender 20, Men in Pain 8, The Training of O 14, Transsexual Seduction 20, Sex and Submission 29, Hogtied 13, Device Bondage 20, Public Disgrace 20, Water Bondage 11, Fucking Machines 19, Wired Pussy 10, Kink Live14, Bound Gang Bangs 4,
Everything Butt 5, The Upper Floor 9

As I suspected, the only obvious female Kink site missing is Pissing. But I suspect thatís a bit edgy for VB which probably isnít interested in pushing the limits that much. (Although they do have a couple of Kinkís fisting scenes, and calling almost anything by Kink ďmainstreamĒ would be like saying Kim Jong-il was a kind gent with a fashionable hairdo.)

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slutty (111) Ha! That instant stream thing pisses me off to no end as well, so many times forgetting to mute my speaders...

Thanks for the info on Kink, sounds like a reasonable way to get a sampling without having to join all the sites. How to the video specs compare with what you would get directly from Kink?

12-20-11  10:32pm

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elephant (67) Thanks for putting the mini review up Rearadmiral. Doesn't sound like they have too many scenes yet then, I liked the look of the gangbang site, whipped ass, everything butt and public disgrace but might have to wait a while till they get more scenes.

How much was it you had to pay.

12-21-11  02:53am

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rearadmiral (384) REPLY TO #2 - elephant :

I agree that if your plan was to join VB just to access the Kink channel that might not make sense yet, but if you're thinking of a VB membership anyway the channel is a great opportunity to sample some Kink stuff.

My VB membership will expire on the 27th or 28th and I added Kink yesterday. It cost me a little less than $10. If all you wanted were a dozen or so scenes you could wait until closer to the end of your VB membership.

One potential flaw with that plan is that VB doesn't catagorize the scenes according to which site they're from. The scenes from Ultimate Surrender are fairly obvious, as are a lot of scenes from Kink Live, but other than that you'll be opening every scene and checking the watermark if you're looking for scenes from specific sites. This is a huge pain in the ass now, but as the site grows it could make the whole thing unmanagable. I don't fault Kink for this; they have their sites clearly defined. I think the VB is at fault and I specifically blame the marketing ploy known as VB3. Evil Angel and Vivid, which are still accessible through VB2 are categorized by DVD. Kink and Reality Kings are just multiple pages of scenes with no differentiation. So if you want Whipped Ass from Kink, or In the VIP from Reality Kings you'll need a big dose of patience.

12-21-11  04:20am

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rearadmiral (384) REPLY TO #1 - slutty :

I can't imagine that anyone prefers streaming to start immediately with no action from the user. I keep my speakers off, but it sucks bandwidth from what I'm already downloading. With VB3 (all VB3, not just Kink stuff) it can take several tried to get it to stop completely.

Video quality is lower on VB, but that could be because I'm downloading a lower quality too. I recall that on Kink that I tended to download what was labelled as WMV HD. Those specs are 1280x720 @ 7100kb/s. I downloaded the WMV DVD which came in at 720x480 @ 387kb/s. I have very little understanding of the technical bits, but it seems to me that the size of the files (HD on Kink and DVD on VB) were pretty close. Kink scenes tends to be pretty long, often over an hour, and the file sizes on VB were still very large. Most of them are at or just over 1GB. I have no idea why a scene with such different resolutions would be so close in actual size.

One other difference which probably doesn't impact on too many people is that Kink uses WMV codec 9 and VB uses codec 8. That means that anyone using one of those devices to play files through their TV (like the Western Digital device) can't play the files from VB though if they had the same file from Kink it would play.

12-21-11  04:50am

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elephant (67) REPLY TO #3 - rearadmiral :

Yeah if I wasn't a member of VB not too long ago I might of looked into it more but for me it would be for just the kink sites so probably worth waiting a while till they have more and there is more from VB I need.

But sounds a good deal if you can sample all them kink movies for $10. I agree though they need to sort out the labelling of their kink sites, you need to know quickly what site at least it is from to establish if you want it instead of clicking everyone.

12-21-11  05:28am

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rearadmiral (384) REPLY TO #5 - elephant :

I suspect that the fault for not associating them with a site is with VB and not Kink. I've had a couple of reasons to email the staff at Kink with membership problems and they're really helpful. I doubt that Kink would deliberately just upload their scenes without cataloging them. The Kink channel at VB could be a good way to get people interested in their sites, but without any association with a site other than the watermark it limits that as a purpose.
12-22-11  12:28pm

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elephant (67) REPLY TO #6 - rearadmiral :

Yeah no doubt VB fault, hope they sort it soon.

I've just been having a look at some of the kink updates, there is some bloody seriously kinky stuff on there, I'd love to have a network access for say $45, some of the anal stuff on these sites is mind blowing. I noticed that evilangel stuff is also at kinkondemand now.

12-24-11  08:16am

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rearadmiral (384) REPLY TO #7 - elephant :

I agree that if you're looking for fetish material Kink is at the top of any list of sites. They obviously put a lot of time, money and effort into all their shoots. Their anal material is amazing.

I always add the Evil Angel channel when I take a VB membership because I'm a huge fan of a lot of their work. Jay Sin in particular. His anal-themed stuff is like nothing else I've seen. Series' like Milk Nymphos and Anal Buffet are insane. If there was a Nobel prize for anal porn Jay Sin would win it every year.

12-25-11  09:17am

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elephant (67) REPLY TO #8 - rearadmiral :

Too right mate I do think it would be great to have a network site for kink but totally see that their stuff is unique and if you're into it its second to none, trouble is with me I only like to dip my toe in to bdsm when the mood takes for something different so not always what I wanna see, only half into some of the niches they have so struggle to know which site to join, I have joined everything butt and whipped ass in the past.

I agree some of those pretty sloppy, anal buffet and milk nymphos certainly do stretch your imagination at what is possible in anal porn, first time I saw so of that stuff my eyes nearly popped out of my head, OMG, when you're in the mood for something totally kinky and extreme anal those movies certainly deliver. I wish sinplex also had a pay site as I join that in a flash too, their stuff is pretty far out.

12-25-11  12:57pm

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