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messmer (137) 10-06-10  01:03pm
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I don't understand!?

What am I doing wrong because I certainly don't get Maggie's sharp DVD quality when I look at the scenes I download? Some are nice and clear (except in full window) but most are below my acceptable standard even with the high bit rates. And, yes, I am subscribing to the DVD quality level. I also find that large daily updates don't mean a thing if they all basically feature the same sort of action. Niche content is being sadly neglected. Didn't I mention that someplace before?

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lk2fireone (196) What is the total bitrate of the video files you think are low quality? It could be that the files you think should be high quality are much lower in quality (bitrate) than you are expecting.

Bitrate is a major factor in the quality of a video, although there are certainly other factors.

10-06-10  02:17pm

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #1 - lk2fireone :

The nice and clear ones are around the 5000+ bitrate level, BUT NOT NECESSARILY, because I've seen scenes in compilations with high bitrates where the picture was still terrible. Many are around 1700+ bitrate and that's where the problem when viewing in full window comes in. The picture is really not crisp enough to be called DVD quality. Judging by the official review one might get the idea that most scenes are of good to excellent quality but, in my opinion, that's not the case. Maybe I've been spoiled by HD??

One additional thought comes to mind: should the DVDs be judged by viewing them in the default window like 640x480 etc. rather than in "full window mode?" If the former is the case then quality overall is not too bad and I need to apologize.

10-06-10  02:57pm

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lk2fireone (196) REPLY TO #2 - messmer :

LOL. Well, you've answered your own question.

The video files you don't like for their "low quality" are low quality as regards bitrate.

Whether you've been spoiled or whatever, it's wonderful to be able to watch a video and see it with good to great definition, which takes a higher bitrate than what is available on many older videos.

A lot of "DVD" quality videos are not really very good quality, especially if you want to watch them full-screen.

I don't like watching videos that are fuzzy or unclear. Most PU members don't either.

So welcome to the club (but I think you were already a member before I was). :)

Edit01: Watching a video in a smaller window makes the video appear clearer. The poor quality is not as noticeable.

The high bitrate videos you think are poor quality might have been remastered (?, not sure what the correct term is) from lower bitrate videos, without really improving the original video.

Someone like Toadsith is an expert in this area, and could give you a complete and accurate explanation of your problem.

10-06-10  03:06pm

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #3 - lk2fireone :

LOL, well, here's the truth: I have never watched an actual physical Porn DVD on my television, so I automatically assumed DVD quality would at least have to give me as good a picture as I get with my non-HD movie DVDs and even though a site like VideoBox seems to be slightly better than others there are many scenes in it that are of terrible quality and that's why I couldn't understand Maggie's reference to the excellent picture quality.

I guess she's more even handed and experienced and kept in mind that you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear when she made her judgment on the site. :-)

10-06-10  03:26pm

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lk2fireone (196) REPLY TO #4 - messmer :

I think you are basically right, that your expectation of "DVD" quality was just too high for what is mainly available on the Internet.

I've never watched a porn file I downloaded on a TV either.
My only experience is with PC monitors.

And Maggie and the other TBP reviewers have far more extensive experience with all kinds of porn than I will ever have.

But there is a wide variation in the bitrate and other quality factors in the porn videos you find on the Internet at different sites. There are some sites that have some extremely high quality videos, and the quality keeps going up as time goes on.

So one day, if we are still around, we will be able to watch these porn videos on our TV sets, when the quality becomes good enough. Lol.

10-06-10  03:39pm

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #5 - lk2fireone :

I just hope when that time comes that we will still want to watch it! I hope I'll never lose that desire! LOL.
10-06-10  06:07pm

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malikstarks (8) REPLY TO #6 - messmer :

Messmer, am I to understand that you have subscriptions to both Videobox and VideoZ? Isn't that a bit redundant man?
10-06-10  07:19pm

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Goldfish (67) REPLY TO #4 - messmer :

My 2 cents on the "DVD quality videos". My guess is many of these videos are not going to be as good in quality as non-HD movies created by Hollywood producers. In defense of the porn videos, watching them from two feet away on an HD quality monitor will expose many more imperfections in the picture than watching it from across the room on your TV.
10-06-10  08:30pm

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #7 - malikstarks :

No, I only subscribe to VideoBox at the moment but did subscribe to VideosZ in the past. I think I prefer VideoBox for one reason .. VideoBox has the easiest log-in. :-) Picture quality appears to be the same.
10-07-10  10:05am

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #8 - Goldfish :

I think you are right, Goldfish. The disappointment over so many blurry scenes made me forget that Porn Valley ain't Hollywood! :-)
10-07-10  10:07am

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malikstarks (8) REPLY TO #9 - messmer :

Understood. Never been a member at VideosZ.
10-07-10  08:37pm

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