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DickH (1) 02-03-10  02:47pm
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Another cancellation

I've just canceled my membership on this site too after pretty much 5 years continuous membership. As many others have commented, it has become very repetitive with the same girls shot by the same photographers every two or three days. In days of old it used to be 7-10 days before you saw the same girl twice.
It has also moved more mainstream recently - Aria Giovanni is on here these days. Nothing against her, she's a gorgeous woman, but hardly an "amateur".
And finally my old favourite Sean R. seems to have lost his mojo. As I put in my review on here a while back he used to shoot the most fantastic close-up gaping pussy shots, but he's not quite so up close and personal any more.
Any finally, finally! still don't bother with the video!

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anyonebutme (14) I think it's that the way things are going, more and more girls go with the shaved look - I bet it's getting continuously harder to find the numbers of unshaven girls to shoot.

I don't know, I think ATK still does a good job, considering the times we are in. 'Course it's all subjective.

02-03-10  05:11pm

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Capn (28) REPLY TO #1 - anyonebutme :

Take a look at We Are Hairy.

Drooler's comment alerted me to it.

It looks very promising!

Cap'n. ;0)

02-03-10  11:36pm

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Advent (41)
There are lots of competing interests in the member base and certainly each is entitled to their own opinion. When we added bg to the Hairy site we had to shorten the update cycle because if we posted a set of a model every 10 days and then got to the video it could take 9 months to work through a model's content if we have 20 sets solo plus bg to post as well as video. Now we run a faster cycle which allows us to get to the hardcore sets and video quicker. This cycle also allows us to post new models sooner and with more flexibility. The viewer gets the same number of updates each day and there is no Hairy site that even comes close to giving a viewer new 10 still sets or video clips every single day, 7 days a week.

Yes, Aria is a well-known model but how many sites have Hairy sets of her? Overall her model rating is pretty good so many viewers must have responded favorably to her sets. We have also had positive feedback from some viewers about the porn star video (eg Nicole Ray when she grew out for Hairy) giving a better performance in the sex scenes. Obviously the porn stars are on average going to deliver a better performance than first timers. Some want the very amateur stuff and others yet prefer the pro-am material. We include enough variety of material in our updates for Hairy to please most people.

Overall, Hairy content is not the easiest to obtain and we do the very best job we can. It means providing some models with repeat work (eg Joe and Yanna) because they refer other models to us. BMB is leaving today to shoot 5 new hairy models referred by prior models he has shot. We like to maintain these connections because it allows us to get a steady supply of first time hairy models who have never posed for adult before. And it is not like these models are not getting good ratings. BMB has probably surpassed Sean R as our top producer by doing this.

02-04-10  10:26am

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Ray O (3) I agree that some models are way "over-exposed".

Here is my two cents on the real problem:

I don't believe the argument that there is a difficulty getting amateur models - in fact it is now easier than ever to put out ads and get real girl next door gals to pose. I think the ATK site used to solicit material from a wide variety of sources - many amateurs (both models and photographers). They have moved to using a much smaller stable of pro-photographers and these guys in turn are getting references from model ad agencies - aka the Pro/Am pron scene. There is much less girl-next-door and much more wanna-be porn stars. This is fed, in part, by the need to have the models do boy-girl (and girl-girl) sex scenes than frankly many amateur models don't want to do. The fact that they are flying models like Sativa overseas to work with Sean S. and back to the US to work with a number of US-based studios supports the conclusion that they would rather rehash their contract models than find new talent (for which they might only for 10 sets of material).

The site is moving away from its roots of natural, hairy beauties and becoming much more of a routine porn site. That is one reason I do not care for the boy/girl sex shoot. It is virtually all staged stuff with fake semen (aka Ivory liquid soap).

They are also coming back to the same models over and over again so they can say they have many frequent updates. What they don't understand is that more of the same does not equal more of diversity - which is what most of us want.

02-13-10  08:11am

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messmer (137) REPLY TO #4 - Ray O :

What also happens with a smaller stable of photographers is that, no matter how many different sets of a model are offered, every set looks the same except for the first half page or so because that's their particular style.

My complaint in connection with most picture sites, and especially this one, has always (well, mostly recently) been that the model gets undressed too quickly and wears too little lingerie, leaving us with an unnecessarily large number of body shots in each set. If you have up to ten or more sets of the same model in your collection even explicit nudity gets boring.

There has to come a time when photographers and those who edit the sets leave in more of the fully and partially dressed pictures, in other words have a gradual progression from fully clothed to nude in their sets and save the really explicit shots for the last page otherwise everyone will die of boredom. :-)

I'd be disappointed if there were no explicit pictures but three, four pages of nudes (especially of the same model) tends to become a bit repetitious and boring, don't you think?

02-16-10  01:04pm

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Ray O (3) REPLY TO #5 - messmer :

Ideally each set should start out clothed and lead to nudity. I am ok with a 25% : 75% clothed to nude ratio, but I agree that at least some pictures should be clothed. In my opinion, slutty, overdone make-up and glam-style shots are a waste of my time.

Also, poses are important and different angles. Lighting and background too. That is why I have my favorite photographers - Sean R.; Riley Williams, Toby Mayes, and some of Wanton (BMB) stuff. The rest is usually poorly done. Most of the poor stuff I see is due to poor poses and the inability of photographers to shoot the goodies. I'd estimate that of the 7 or so daily updates, three are from overexposed models, two are from crappy photographers and maybe two are top-notch sets.

I don't need to see a whole set of some chick's feet covered with fruit. I also don't need to see a bunch of male ACTORS painting fake cum on the models. There is plenty of cheap porn like that on the web. ATK used to have higher standards, though they are slipping.

The high recycle rate of models and standard porn shoots are definitely signs that they are letting their tight standards go in favor of some quick cash and expansion into mainstream porn.

02-17-10  08:25am

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Capn (28) REPLY TO #6 - Ray O :

I would go for 50% fully to part clothed 20% coy nude & 30% explicit nude.

A lot of folk seem to have an odd idea of nude.
Pulled away top & skirt showing naughty bits is NOT nude!

BMB/Wanton is particularly guilty of this.

Other than that, I agree with you Ray.

Cap'n. :0)

02-19-10  02:25pm

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