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squirrel (8) 01-03-10  08:25pm
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HORRIBLE site navigation.

I'm more "asking for help" from experienced folks. I just paid for a year's access to 21sextury.com -- this being the leading site of the pack, I thought I'd chime in here.

GOOD GRIEF, the navigation is horrible!! I just want to march through the site in some kind of organized manner, downloading what appeals to me, but the navigation seems to be specifically designed to prevent that. Get done with one set, use the "back" button to get back to the model's set pages, and IT ALWAYS TAKES YOU BACK TO THE BEGINNING -- then you've got to dig through page after page to get back to where you "really" were.

Or, how about the "calendar" -- can I just go to some point in time, and move forward or backward from there? Not really. Go to the calendar, it gives you "today." Get done with one day, hit the "back" button, and you're always back to "today," instead of the last day you were on. Once you get beyond the current days showing on the calendar page, you lose any sense of seeing what was on that "day" -- just a pop-up thumbnail for each set that was posted on the day.

Man, this is just frustration, defined. Oh, there are plenty of "search" tools, but if you just want to go through each model, or go through the site in some way where you can "go back to where you were last time," forget about it.

21sextury's main site is the same as Pix and Video's -- exact same navigation, or lack thereof.

Anyway, if anyone has any good strategies for getting through the dang site in an orderly fashion, I'd love to hear them!

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exotics4me (463) Squirrel,

There should be a drop down box on the calender page that lets you select the month and year. Using the calender menu should give you a calender type page that shows a thumbnail of every day that month unless they've changed it.

The model list can be frustrating, but in my experience, in takes you back to the range you were in before clicking. This could vary if you have more than 1-2 files downloading when you try it.

01-03-10  09:20pm

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Denner (235) It cannot be that bad, squirrel........

But ok, I'd like a better model-search - with 'name-search' - and not just 'Models' where it's alphabetic - but only search by 'numbers'

The Calender/Gallery/Daily: I always open a certain model/date in a new window - then it's easier to 'go back'

And one navigation-deal, that would be great:
You get a models page up - and can watch what she's got at PixandVideo and Sandy and Zoliboy - but say, you're at Sandy and want some material at PixandVideo - you have to go back to that site and search - I'd be better if you can just click at at thumbnail in Sandy and get transfered to that scene at PixandVideo....

01-04-10  05:36am

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PinkPanther (46) REPLY TO #2 - Denner :

I've never had a problem using the monthly calendars and don't wind up back where I started as the OP mentioned, but they do really need to make it possible to search for models by name and to search for work across the network.

The bizarre thing is that non-members can find a particular model's work across the network easier than members can. So what are you supposed to do? Go into the site in one browser as a member and go into it with a different browser to search as a non-member?

They need to fix this. They are working on integrating the network - if you go into some of the secondary sites as a member of Pix&Video, you'll be in a beta area that is integrated, though it needs a LOT of work, in my opinion, to be as user friendly as it could/should be.

For instance, with the beta you can choose a site from the network in a single windown with a pull-down menu, but you cannot see all updates across the network, which is really where they should go, if at all possible.

The frustrating thing about the secondary sites is that they dole out the updates over the course of 7/8 days - adding pics and video clips to the same update - so even if they had the thing I described as seeing updates across the network, if you wanted to be looking at complete updates, you would need to be looking back to see what the update was 8 days ago.

As I say, they've got a lot of work to do to make this network as good as it could/should be - but jumbly as it is, the current deal gives members a whole lot of very good material.

01-04-10  07:54am

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Denner (235) REPLY TO #3 - PinkPanther :

Agree - the calender cause no problems - but as you also say: They still got a lot of work to make this network much more user-friendly...
Also when you search for news - as a non-member
But never regretted joining - even if I've been here a lot of times..this site - now network - has damn fine material....

01-04-10  08:15am

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rome476 (0) REPLY TO #3 - PinkPanther :

I do exactly that; open the nonmember site for the model lists while I have a member site also open.
01-04-10  05:35pm

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squirrel (8) REPLY TO #1 - exotics4me :


Perhaps a curse from having "all 40 sites" access via 21sextury: Yeah, you bet, there's a dropdown listbox, but, in every main page like that (calendar / models / scenes / etc.), I get a "Choose website" box. I think it's time to find out if I can log into P&V directly, rather than going through 21sextury.

Thanks for the info (same for everyone else!) -- that gives me some ideas to try. I'll get cracking!

01-04-10  07:38pm

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