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Choc chip (1) 09-29-09  01:32am
No Badges TRUST USER?   YES (8), NO (0)
Status: Current Member for over 1 year (at the time of review).
Pros: This is a well organised site, very user-friendly with loads of information available to members. Customer support, unlike many other sites, is superb. When I had a log-in problem it was resolved immediately. Images are good quality and video excellent-if you choose the higher resolution. There is a huge archive which is well worth searching as the best stuff is now quite old. They used to have some gorgeous models who were carefully paired for their compatability and this worked very well. I would say most of the amateur models appearing on the site are heterosexual or 'Bi' and this makes for more interesting video as they are still experimenting with same sex experiences. There is only one obvious dyke involved as far as I could see, and she is a member of the staff. A few of the better looking models regularly return to the site, but there is a constant turnover as they move on to other things. You never know when logging on if a real stunner is going to turn up.
Cons: Unfortunately it seems the good times are over for this site. They do not seem able to find attractive models like they used to. There are a few exceptions of course, but most of their recent models are distinctly ordinary. I used to look forward to the daily updates which usually featured exiting and sexy new girls, but nowadays I very often don't even bother to open the image set or video having seen the header picture. They insist on sticking to the same old format month after month and this becomes tedious after a while. Their 'Intimate Moments'(solo or 2 girl masturbation) videos were an exciting inovation several years ago but are now stale and boring. The girl on girl videos, whilst often very good depending on the attractiveness of the girls, tend to be too 'staged', ie.two girls, very lightly clothed, kneeling on a bed waiting to start a sex session for the cameras. Not exactly spontaneous! Any suggestions for improvement by the members seem to fall on deaf ears.
Bottom Line: Their big mistake was splitting the site into three parts, no doubt to increase their income. This meant they had to increase output at the expense of quality and use models which previously they wouldn't have entertained. Staff appear to have become complacent and need to bring in new blood with imagination and drive to 'kick some ass'. It's not too late!
A unique aspect of this site however is the surprisingly busy forum or message boards, which are split into several subject headings with lots of threads running in each section. This sounds like a good thing until you realise that these boards are dominated by a handful of strange characters who appear to devote all their spare time to the site and seem to be involved in just about every thread. They are totally sychophantic and heap praise on everything on the site. Some of the slush they write to the models is quite nauseating and must be embarrassing for those of the girls who read the boards. They take it upon themselves to welcome new members to the boards, then dictate to others what they may or may not say in their posts. (WE do this and WE do that). If you dare to post the slightest criticism of the site they will immediately jump to its defence and take the thread off topic to lose your post. One of these characters posts a weird review of just about every update, rambling about the wonderful lighting, composition and colours, then goes on to thank each member of staff involved by name. These must be very sad people and the phrase 'get a life' springs to mind. If the management could put a stop to all this nonsense and listen to the more sensible members, the site could be put back on track and returned to its position as the leading site of its genre.

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RagingBuddhist (63) This has got to be the best wrap up of this site that I've seen. Especially liked the last line of your bottom line. Killer review!
09-29-09  04:32pm

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SueAnn (In-Active) Thanks for the new review Choc chip!

You've brought up some great points and the honest feedback is always appreciated. We actually do listen and we're working hard to get to the bottom of these issues.

As you know, we put in a lot of time and trained a super awesome Customer Support team to fix any dilemmas and make sure all customers get the most value, and the most up-skirt action, out of their memberships. I think it's an often overlooked aspect of reviews so we're all really glad you mentioned this.

We release a huge amount of quality content every week and I think comments regarding model attractiveness and performance are all really subjective. There are blonde babes that I'd happily dream of spending an afternoon with, and some that *I* might skip over but you might not, so I'm not really sure if that can be considered a 'con'...

You'll have to remember that our models are amateurs and for most this is the first time they've ever been naked in front of someone other than their partner, they're not wearing any makeup or glamorous clothes and they're not given any direction or script other than 'Do what your heart desires and let us film it' - this can make the first few words between girlgirl partners a little awkward I agree, but it's real and that's what we're dedicated to.

Having said that, it would be really helpful to us if you could list videos you thought was not up to scratch or an 'Intimate moments' masturbation video that didn't totally start a party in your pants, so we can see what you mean and try to fix it if it's broke...

Thanks again for the review!
Sue-ann

09-29-09  07:39pm

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Pornbro (8) nice review, I enjoyed reading your lines.
09-30-09  01:38am

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RagingBuddhist (63) REPLY TO #2 - SueAnn :

SueAnn -

I think if you read choc chips's review from the perspective of someone not connected with the site, you'll see that it's not all that nice. While I'm sure that the people working to keep AbbyWinters going put a lot of time and effort into it, it should be obvious by the latest reviews and comments here that you're losing people. I realize that the members of PU can't speak for a world-wide community, but, as we submit our comments independently and come from a wide range of tastes ourselves, isn't it obvious that more than a few people are coming to the same conclusions? No matter the reason, be it lack of scripting, more "first-timers" or the over-zealous defense of the site on the forum, things have changed to make it all less appealing.

I'd say playing spin doctor might be one of the big issues now. Instead of focusing on any praise given here, look at the other side of the coin. Reviewers often cite a lack of attractive models as a con on here because that's how the site struck them personally. And, when people say they don't like 20 minutes of clothed action and 2 minutes of skin at the end, they don't see it as "the tease factor". Take a hard look at these, taken from reviews and comments (none of them my own):

- "become a ho-hum triple site of natural girls being coy"
- "both photo sets and videos have become boring because the "tease factor" (according to the webmaster) is being stretched out too much"
- "VERY softcore sometimes out of 10 pages there will be only 2/4 photos of the models fanny,or maybe 2 full lip shoots-thats nearly 80 pics of rubbish"
- "[I] download[ed] this video and watched with horror as i wasted 321gb of pure nonsence"
- "It has been getting less explicit of late"
- "re-subscribed as a returning member recently and let the subscription lapse because things had become so boring"

I seriously doubt we're the only group of people to come to this same conclusion on the site's content. It's just that we're here and able to verbalize it. But, if issues like this aren't addressed (and corrected), I'd say uscue was right - AW probably has passed its peak. And, I'll say it again - it's a shame.

09-30-09  04:19pm

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SueAnn (In-Active) Here's a great response from abbywinters.com Owner Garion Hall:

There are two factors here:

(1)* What the model is comfortable doing.* Not all models are up for all posing levels (our minimum requirement is fully nude). We tell them the options, and they choose. Sometimes, when they come back for a shoot, they'll be comfy to go a little further.

(2)* What we shoot of the model when she is at her highest posing level.* We have been getting a lot of negative feedback about this in the past few months, and we're working on it. It was good, it got bad, now it's getting better. Those effects should start being felt on the site in the coming months (there's a delay from when we shoot, to when we release), where around half of every shoot has the model doing stuff at her highest posing level she feels comfortable doing (that's an estimation, not a promise!).

Of course, when we do that, people complain about all the nudity on the site - "Let's see the sexy stuff of the model getting undressed! It's about the journey, not the destination!" - sure fella. We're never going to please everyone all the time (or even most people some of the time), but we can do better than we have lately, and we're working on that.

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So yes, they're aware of the issues, and yes they're fixing them! Yay! So now we can all get back to watching boobies!
Sue-ann

11-03-09  03:33pm

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