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TrashMan (103) 02-07-09  06:50pm
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hd videos disappointment

It is really disappointing that a site as good and as dedicated as VideoBox would not go as far to encode HD videos with widescreen resolution. I just realized this in one of their most recent additions, "Breakin' Them In #9", says HD 16:9 on the cover yet the videos are still in the standard resolutions that VideoBox offers (640x480 for DVD, 480x352 for High, and 320x240 for Med).

Prospective users should be aware of this.

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badandy400 (103) I have noticed that some of their videos even though they should be in widescreen use full screen resolution but use the black bars at the top and bottom. They do have some of their stuff correct, but I do not know about everything.
02-07-09  10:06pm

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TrashMan (Disabled) REPLY TO #1 - badandy400 :

Yes, this is true. I have seen this in several releases.

However, this recent release, of Breakin Em In, they squeezed the 16:9 image to 4:3, and it looks pretty fair.

02-07-09  10:23pm

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badandy400 (103) REPLY TO #2 - TrashMan :

Hum....did they just cut off the ends or did they just "squeeze" it in and make the people look distorted? Either way I do not like it.

I hope this is an isolated thing. I would hate to see my 100 get lazy and become less valuable to me.

02-07-09  11:11pm

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moonbyrd (0) Actually (even though it says 640x480 on the download button) the highest resolution is 720x480 for the newer releases . Which is exactly the same pixel resolution as their source DVDs, if they are NTSC releases. The only losses you get are from re-encoding.

Unfortunately they leave the aspect ratio wrong and the users have to fix it for themselves. That is not difficult though.

The ones with black bars at the top and the bottom are likely letterboxed already in DVD form.

02-07-09  11:57pm

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TrashMan (Disabled) REPLY TO #3 - badandy400 :

I definitely have downloads from their site which are widescreen and have the bars. So it seems isolated.

It seems, though, that I missed the fact that the DVD res is 720x480. I viewed the stream of the DVD quality and as I'm sure you are aware, the flash viewer is only 4:3 so I saw it squeezed, not realizing the source is actually 16:9 (as opposed to 4:3).

02-08-09  12:55am

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badandy400 (103) REPLY TO #5 - TrashMan :

Gotcha. I never use their streaming videos. I download everything. With the connection I have here it is by far better to download when nicer videos are being viewed.
02-08-09  12:59am

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TrashMan (Disabled) REPLY TO #4 - moonbyrd :

Yeah I can confirm this (the 720x480 resolution that is). See, I got confused. Not only does the DVD download button say 640x480, and not only do the screencaps look squeezed, but when you view the stream (click "Play Now") the image in the flash viewer is squeezed.

Seems like it doesn't affect the DVD resolution (which of course you gotta pay extra for, $15 vs $10), but it affects the lower resolutions of "High" and "Med" (they come in at 480x352 and 320x240, respectively), and the image for both of them look squeezed.

Fortunately, you can use VLC and force the aspect ratio to be 16:9 (mind you this is what film makers do...feature films are recorded in widescreen on 35mm by 35mm film, meaning they are squeezed to fit 35x35, and then the projector expands it to widescreen). Problem is that VLC sucks with WMV, sucks in comparison to Windows Media Player (which doesn't let you modify the aspect ratio).

02-08-09  01:01am

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TrashMan (Disabled) REPLY TO #6 - badandy400 :

Well, I never save the DVD quality. With the amount of porn I store, I can't afford to store DVD quality considering that DVD quality is around 3.5 times as large as the "High" quailty. I guess I could go and buy a 2TB hard drive from WD, but that is $300, a little to pricey at the moment (be aware that when the 250GB, 300GB, 400GB, 500GB and 1TB hard drives came out they were all $300, and eventually dropped to more affordable prices around $100).
02-08-09  01:04am

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Denner (235) Once again we got a PU to comment on the strage things with the quality of videos from VideoBox - thanks for bringing it up again, Trashman.

For a long time and during many join-ups I've had this problem with VideoBox: Oh, I'd like to spend an extra few dollars to get the socalled HD-stuff, but every time I get dissapointed.
The reason is as stated by Trashman: the resolution in socalled HD (or WMVDVD) is NOT better than ordinary socalled WMVHigh - both at times I went for the older stuff and the new videos...
So: Is there no difference at all and is it just a scam to take more money from PUs and others....?

02-08-09  07:41am

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TrashMan (Disabled) REPLY TO #9 - Denner :

I don't understand the question.
02-08-09  07:44am

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Denner (235) REPLY TO #10 - TrashMan :

Well the question was to all here at PU, sorry if it was not so clear (I think so, anyway), but I try again in my highschool (scandinavian)english:
VideoBox has 2 different prices for sign-up: Standard resolution: 9.95 og DVD-resolution: 17.95.
BUT: Signing-up for the DVD-resolution does generally NOT give you better videos than the standard-resolution - in this users opinion and - what it seems - quite a few others.
Hope it's more clear now...

02-08-09  07:56am

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badandy400 (103) REPLY TO #8 - TrashMan :

Well, the 1.5 TB are the best buy per GB right now. Paying an extra $170 for an additional 500 GB to get a 2 TB drive simply is not worth it. In a few months I would be looking for them to be closer to $150.
02-08-09  01:10pm

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Murr (0) Glad someone already brought this up.
They list "High" wmv as 480x362 and "DVD" as 640x480.

Which is basically crap.
Yes, cheap price, but offer they need to offer what they claim. High is NOT 480x362 and DVD is sure as hell not 640x480.

04-14-09  07:57pm

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