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PinkPanther (46) 10-31-08  10:22am
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Club Sandy Now a Loyalty Bonus Site

This is a pretty cool change - I noticed it at the home page of Pix & Video and confirmed it with a 21st Sextury Customer Service person - who responded to my query at their web site in just 12 minutes - can't beat that!

Club Sandy is now a loyalty bonus site for Pix & Video membership - and Pix & Video is likewise a loyalty bonus site for membership to Club Sandy.

In each case, they are the 42nd add-on to the network, so you would be waiting some period of time before this loyalty bonus kicked in - I'm not sure exactly how many site you begin with - it's at least 18, but I'm not sure.

I should add that the new BDSM sites in the network, Dominated Girls & Mighty Mistress - are damned good BDSM sites with weekly scenes that are 1 gb in size - look great!

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Denner (235) I not quite sure about this post - PP gives us a fine tip about Club Sandy as a "bonus"-site when joining Pix and Video.
Club Sandy sure has some fine alternative videos - and also a few alternative models - compared to Pix and Video. So long so good!

But if it's only a socalled "loyalty bonus", the deal is minimal. 21st Sextury has this system where you have to KEEP PAYING for quite a long period to get what they promise to new (and old) subscribers - which means keep paying or get nothing else. If Club Sandy just is a part of this relatively old 21 Sextury "longtime" deal, I'm not impressed. PUs just have to keep comming up with our money for a longer and longer period....
They have this claim when joining:

But you do NOT get access to 30+ websites - unless you stay member for a very long time.
I will not say fraud - but, man I think it's close to it.....

11-01-08  08:48am

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PinkPanther (46) REPLY TO #1 - Denner :

It's deal for people that think it would be worth it to be a ongoing member - not any good deal for people that are "join for a month" types. But considering that Pix & Video updates every day and has a 3-month "join" option that is $20/month, being an ongoing member knowing that in a number of months you'll also have membership to Club Sandy - and getting membership to a number of other fine sites in the meantime, some of which, such as the BDSM sites that I mentioned, are unique and good sites on their own - it's hard for me to see that as a ripoff. I've found this network to be a good thing, except when they have their access issues, which haven't been an issue in a while.
11-01-08  09:15am

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Drooler (220) REPLY TO #1 - Denner :

I'm not that impressed, either, by this system they have. You do get access to a lot of websites when you join PixAndVideo and I think it could be 30, but to me those sites aren't that hot in quality. In fact, they have errors such as missing or broken links and some poor-grade video and image quality compared to the real 21st Sextury material.

It is a step forward to add ClubSandy to the "loyalty" bonus, I suppose, but it's a very small step. And it's more of a step backward to no longer offer the $45 deal for both PixAndVideo and Club Sandy together. It's the difference between $45 once and $30 at least twice.

Basically, they stepped backward more so they could then step forward less. Not terribly exciting, is it?

The predictable never is.

11-01-08  09:19am

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Denner (235) REPLY TO #2 - PinkPanther :

Like I said: I'm NOT sure....
Especially about the 21 Sextury deals in general. I'm not saying it's a rip-off - still I have this thing about their signup policy where they promiss those 30+ sites.
I've been a member of Pix and Video many times, but when I first joined - I think it was Magic Blondes a long time ago too - and thought I got a hell of a lot of other sites, I was quite disapointed by their policy about staying for months and months...
Still Club Sandy is a great site, too!

11-01-08  09:23am

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Denner (235) REPLY TO #3 - Drooler :

Well, Drooler. Like always:
You said it!
And, man, I like that one:

"Basically, they stepped backward more so they could then step forward less. Not terribly exciting, is it?

The predictable never is."

11-01-08  09:26am

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PinkPanther (46) Strange logic here, in my opinion - it was predictable that they would take down the combo offer and make Club Sandy a Loyalty Bonus of Pix & Video and vice versa?

If that's so, please point out to me where anybody ever predicted it.

They've apparently decided that the Loyalty Bonus business model works for them better than the combo offer worked for them. So long as they are straight forward about their offers - and they could make them more clear - it strikes me as a better deal to get both sites for a single price than it was to get both sites for a combo price - provided that you intend to be a member for a sustained period of time.

11-02-08  04:56pm

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damon21 (14)
REPLY TO #1 - Denner :

Denner, let me correct a few things here.

You WILL get instant access to 30+ websites with 1 subscription.

AND if you stay longer, you'll get more, 2 sites per month.

It is clearly stated on the freetour of the site. Not to mention the discount on the recurring price.

I don't think it's close to fraud, actually it's a deal for many PUs, maybe not for you but for many others.


11-03-08  12:33am

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