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ByteMaster (0) 06-09-08  10:11am
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I was about to join and noticed the euro dollar symbol before the 29.90 asking price.

I'm based in the United Kingdom and the current exchange rate is

29.90 EURO = 23.51 British pounds sterling
29.90 EURO = 46.46 US dollars

It seems simonscans is also using this new geographic targeting practice.

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mr smut (42) And I verified with ALS Scan and AllOver30 today who are now also charging higher prices for European porn surfers.

This drives me mad!

06-09-08  12:09pm

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ByteMaster (0) REPLY TO #1 - mr smut :

Thanks for the reply mr smut. I think its a bit unfair. We are all suffering from the credit crunch, not just the U.S. So why target the EU? I will have to be more err, seletive about the sites I join from now on :)
06-09-08  12:20pm

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mr smut (42) REPLY TO #2 - ByteMaster :

I mailed the owner of one of my favourite sites in order to see what they think about that. I wonder who came up with this ...

Right now this means an extra of 57% compared to the price in $ when they charge me in Euros. That's way too much and it drives me crazy!

06-09-08  12:23pm

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Wittyguy (105) REPLY TO #3 - mr smut :

I hear ya. There's been a lot of discussion about discriminatory pricing recently. I'm convinced that it's a conspiracy being led by the same people who've brought us $140 a barrel oil.
06-09-08  12:26pm

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mr smut (42) REPLY TO #4 - Wittyguy :

It's getting off-topic but today I had to pay $5.71 for one gallon of gasoline. The liter costs about 1.51 or $2,37.

I wonder what reply I get to my message ... I'll keep you informed.

06-09-08  12:36pm

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Drooler (220) I remember the mid-80's when the US dollar was really strong and I was in a business that depended a lot on international sales. Our volumes shrank and we had to cut prices and operating costs just to survive, which we fortunately did.

People complained anyway.

06-09-08  02:51pm

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ByteMaster (0) REPLY TO #6 - Drooler :

Hi Drooler.

I hear what your saying. It's not that I'm complaining as such, I understand costs are rising in all areas of life. What I dont understand, and what is annoying is that the webmasters are not taking the exchange rate into account.

A guy in the US can join a site at a lower cost than I can in the UK or the rest of the EU. I suppose its all about percentages. I was looking at some site traffic using alexa.com. It seems that most porn customers are based in the US.

So, if a webmaster raises the US price he would risk losing more customers, than he would by raising the EU price. 38% of simonscans visitors come from the US, while only 11.3% come from the UK. So the sites are keeping the US price the same and taking a financial hit on every US subscription, but raising the EU price to counteract the loss.

This is the part that I find very unfair and its put me off joining a few sites today :(

Anyways, I always enjoy reading your reviews and comments :)

06-09-08  03:48pm

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Drooler (220) REPLY TO #7 - ByteMaster :

Yeah, I'm sure it's kind of like robbing Peter to pay Paul in some sense. It comes down to whether in the site operator's judgment it's a better or worse idea to have these pricing differentials. If the non-dollar subscribers saying "We're not going to take it" reaches a critical mass, then the site operators will have to adjust. It's a brutal environment these days on both sides.

Thanks for the alexa tip! I don't have time to figure it out yet, but I've bookmarked it.

06-10-08  04:01am

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ByteMaster (0) REPLY TO #8 - Drooler :

Ok bud, later :)
06-10-08  04:13am

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mr smut (42) REPLY TO #2 - ByteMaster :

I contacted AllOver30 today and they replied within a few hours time - when I've send my mail it must have been night time for them. I can now tell you that they start business early in the morning :-).

As soon as I stated that there was an issue with the price appearing in they asked me to give them more details and less then an hour later I was asked to double-check if I see the price in $ again!

They told me that even though they did not want to have the "regional" or "optimal pricing option" enabled there was a problem with European pricing which has been resolved today.

I'm quite happy because I was shocked to see a site that I trust so much in has this enabled on their join page.

Oh, and b.t.w. I don't get paid by them nor do I get any other benefits. It's just that I like this site a lot and especially some of the ladies they have to offer :-)

06-10-08  09:35am

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ByteMaster (0) REPLY TO #10 - mr smut :

Hi mr smut, I've just tried the join page on AllOver30.com and your right, it is now US $. Simonscans is still in EURO :(
06-10-08  09:46am

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mr smut (42) REPLY TO #11 - ByteMaster :

Sure as Simonscans is a different company I'd suggest that you try to contact them. It would be interesting to see what they respond!

I'll double-check with my favourite site for young women doing fisting, peeing and crazy insertions :-)

06-10-08  09:50am

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ByteMaster (0) REPLY TO #12 - mr smut :

HA HA, I keep looking at the ALS tour myself, I've penciled it in for next month, never been a member of it before.
06-10-08  09:57am

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Simon of Scans (5)
It's err, complicated.

1 We're based in the UK so have to charge our sales tax (VAT) - currently its 15%, though its only just recently changed from 17.5%. - but we only have to charge it surfers from within the EU.

USA and the rest of the world - no VAT

2 There's no system in place with any billing company (that we've ever found!) to correctly account for VAT when paying out to affiliates.

You may or may not know about the affiliate payout system, so here's the skinny; We pay other webmasters to promote our sites, and it's the industry standard of 50% of the headline signup cost.

So, to keep things simple we ALWAYS pay the full 50% regardless of surfer location. This means we make a lot less on some surfers than others! Worst case from the full 100% we loose 50% affiliate payout, 17.5% VAT, 10% creditcard processing fee - which leaves us with 22.5% of the original signup fee.

In essence we charge more in the EU as our costs are higher, simply because of the VAT.

The "extra" money charged ends up mostly in the hands of the government as VAT, either directly, or because we have in effect covered the VAT costs for the affiliates half of the transaction. Very little extra ends up in my helicopter/yacht fund!

I did porn to meet girls, now I know about tax, this was not the way it was meant to be :(

12-12-08  10:35am

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