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ace of aces (179) 03-30-08  10:43am
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is the drm still at that site?

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badandy400 (103) I wish I had a real answer for you. Looks like a good site, nice model :)

I am not going to join because in the terms and conditions page it still mentions DRM under section 11. I am not going to waste $30 just to confirm this though, after all it is in the terms and I am sure they would remove it otherwise. I know this does not totally answer your question, but I guess it gives a good idea of what to expect the answer to be.

DRM will be the downfall of the online porn industry!

03-30-08  07:55pm

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ace of aces (179) REPLY TO #1 - badandy400 :

yeah, i totally agree to youre opinion with the drm. it`s for me an absolutely no for joining a site.

you read the terms of condition? it is always to unsecure. i think that they change the toc faster then you can read them. it is always hard to prove which toc were the right ones when you have joined. only printing out would be a opportunity...but what a waste of paper :)...

the girl looks interesting. i saw here live on livecams and she gave a proberbly good show. the promo vid looks interesting, wether the quality doesn`t seem to be high...wihtout drm i would give it a try also for 30$ (if i want to have something... ;) )

03-31-08  02:04pm

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badandy400 (103) REPLY TO #2 - ace of aces :

True. I sent them an email, so we will see if they reply to if. I am hoping for no DRM, but I am worried that even if they are not using DRM anymore they may not have removed it from past movies! That would be terrible! Will let you know if they reply.
03-31-08  03:06pm

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badandy400 (103) "Yes we do use DRM, but you will be able to view the files after your
subscription expires.

Dawn Allison"

That is the reply I received a few minutes ago from them. So I guess as long as you dont switch computers you should be okay? Still does not sound overly convincing to me for $30.

03-31-08  04:08pm

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ace of aces (179) REPLY TO #4 - badandy400 :

at 1. it`s positive that they respond emails :)

at 2. how can i watch the vids after membership period when they have drm?! that sounds strange, or?

04-01-08  01:37am

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badandy400 (103) REPLY TO #5 - ace of aces :

I have seen this before actually. They choose how the licensing is set up. Hustler for example set there DRM to retest the license every 3 days, others will set them to a certain date, usually the date you subscription would end, and you would have to reacquire the licenses assuming you were still a member. The goal being that if you dont stay a member you lose the ability to watch the movie..unless you change the system date on your computer. :)

What they are saying is that once you acquire the license for the video, it is yours to keep forever. Their goal would seem to be to prevent file sharing, unfortunately they would also be preventing us from making a back up or putting it on another computer after the membership expired. That sort of DRM is reasonable, but it still can get you later on if your computer crashes, you get a different computer, or want to use a different media player or DVD player.

04-01-08  09:40am

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ace of aces (179) REPLY TO #6 - badandy400 :

never heard about that kind of drm.....if it works, it would be k, but i agree with your givin points because of changing the computer, making backups e.g.

if i win the next time draw, i will maybe try the membership :)

by the way, hope you have seen that i have rated you :o)

04-01-08  09:57am

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badandy400 (103) REPLY TO #7 - ace of aces :

Yes I did see that. Thank you. Gotta love the drawing...it just paid for most of a 750 GB WD :)
04-01-08  10:31am

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Easy (0) REPLY TO #4 - badandy400 :

I know of the DRM system that is used on Dawnsplace.

You CAN back up the files (say on a data dvd or hd). And even if your computer crashes, you will still be able to get a new license from Dawn's Place on your new computer/hd to continue to view them after the subscription expires.

04-08-08  01:55pm

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badandy400 (103) REPLY TO #9 - Easy :

That would depend. I use Nero for DVD writing and it will not write DRM material to my knowledge. Other programs can do more with DRM, but any backup would only serve you if you still were an active member of the site that the video was downloaded from.

I seriously doubt they would allow you to reacquire the licenses without repaying. Reason being that they have no way of know if it is the same person or not. They would not know if you got the DVD with their videos on it from a buddy or downloaded through some file sharing network or newsgroup. This is the whole point of having DRM on a site that allows a permanent license. They dont mind if you watch the video forever, but they dont want people who did not pay watching it forever too. So I would not count on that.

The only thing I could think of is if you were to provide them with previous username/password and other personal information so they now it is you.

04-08-08  04:44pm

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Easy (0) REPLY TO #10 - badandy400 :

I did say 'Data' Dvd, not a true dvd.

And yes, you can have your backup and continue to view the files AFTER your subscription has expired. They have the facilities to know if it is the same user or not.

04-15-08  02:25pm

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badandy400 (103) REPLY TO #11 - Easy :

The only why to know if it is the same user would be to log IP addresses. So say next year you move, your address is different and they assume you are someone else.

Perhaps you have a way for them to burn, but try putting it in another computer or a DVD player....it is not going to work too well. Unless of course you know something I dont, please tell me!

04-15-08  04:15pm

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Easy (0) REPLY TO #12 - badandy400 :

Yes, files can be backed up or moved to another computer. Their DRM is setup to work for the user as much as DRM can be.
04-15-08  05:28pm

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badandy400 (103) REPLY TO #13 - Easy :

I am assuming this is fairly exclusive for this site though. The few sites that I have actually joined with DRM have given me a great deal of issues with backing up. An I certainly could not transfer the files to another computer and play them after my membership ended. Hustler even made me reacquire the license every three days I believe no matter what I did. And of course these videos could not be played in a DVD player that could normally play computer videos.

It sounds like this place mights as well not even have DRM in their videos. It makes them sound much more scary than you say they are.

04-15-08  06:13pm

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Easy (0) REPLY TO #14 - badandy400 :

I can't speak of what other sites do with their DRM.

Dawn's Place uses DRM to keep content to be as valued to their customers, vs being spread around the net for free. Their customers continue to view the files after their subcription expires. Why not try it and see for yourself?

04-15-08  06:31pm

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badandy400 (103) REPLY TO #15 - Easy :

Curious, do you work for this site in some way? You seem to be trying very hard to sell me on it.
04-15-08  08:17pm

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Easy (0) REPLY TO #16 - badandy400 :

No, I do not work for them.

You emailed them, and they replied, verifing you will be able to continue to view the files. I would say that is a good start in customer support and in trusting the site.

I replied to this thread as a previous member, still being able to view files that I have saved for years. Guess this isn't the place to post members feedback. I thought it was.

04-15-08  11:50pm

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badandy400 (103) REPLY TO #17 - Easy :

East there Easy. I was simply asking you, not accusing you. I am just trying to gather as much information as I can. The site looks like it would be decent but I am not 100 comfortable shelling out $30 for a site I know uses DRM. How long ago were you a member? Since there is no review of this site perhaps you should write one and explain how this all works to everyone. :)
04-16-08  12:35pm

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Easy (0) REPLY TO #18 - badandy400 :

I have been a member off and on since 2001. Sometimes I signup for a full year, other times for just a few months. Never been dissapointed, as Dawn does EVERYTHING that pleases me. I'll see when I have time to do a full review.
04-17-08  08:41pm

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