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exotics4me (463) 02-23-08  09:35am
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Come on 21st Sextury

Back a year ago, as a member on Club Sandy and PixandVideo as a combo package, I went to the sites one day to see them give me the page that says "Website not available". I talked to a customer service rep that time, he had me send a traceback or something of that sort, to show my IP, and he fixed it the next morning. It had something to do with people stealing logins, and multiple people signing in with that login. I guess the traceback would somehow show that my login and pass was stolen not shared, since he did fix it.

Now, after months away from any of the 21st Sextury sites, I go with the plan to get the combo of CS and PV, and the site won't come up, says, "Site unavailable". I went over to proxify.com, put Club Sandy in and it came right up, by changing my IP address.

I understand that there are people that steal logins and passwords, but I'm not one of them, with probably a dozen receipts in my email from 21st Sextury sites as proof. I take it they are banning groups of IP addresses. So, thanks for nothing 21st Sextury, you just lost a customer. Strange that I've never had this problem with any sites except the 21st Sextury ones.

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jd1961 (95) Their site are continously hacked into, don't ask me how I know. I probably saw it in a dream.
02-23-08  01:10pm

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Drooler (220) Yes, I've never seen a site so often and so transparently under seige from hackers as this one (and sometimes PixAndVideo). I'm not a technie, but you'd think by now they'd find a way to fix things so that it doesn't affect the faith that subscribers have in them.

Besides that, they really need to get those pic and vid sizes up to MetArt standards. I think a lot of people would be very happy indeed to see 21st Sextury content, being so sexy and European in style and taste, in 21st Century dimensions. I'd definitely be one.

I used to be a huge fan of Club Sandy and PixAndVideo myself, but add the login hassles, slow downloads, pokey navigation, and the hacker factor, and I just can't get excited about them anymore.

02-23-08  03:24pm

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PinkPanther (46) I've had even lamer explanations for log-in problem from some other sites (Felicia Tang lost her password to be able to get into her own site for 2 weeks one time), but given the size of 21st Sextury, they really ought to be able to deal with this stuff. It's definitely a drag when you can't get into their sites. The whole point of joining is to be able to entry when we're wanting to. If they're not available 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, then they become a whole lot less valuable.
02-24-08  09:42am

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jd1961 (95) REPLY TO #3 - PinkPanther :

I've always had problems with their sites, P&V was my only chargeback ever. Their servers are the worst, I guess they just aren't interested in spending money, just collecting it.
02-25-08  02:54am

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jd1961 (95) REPLY TO #2 - Drooler :

I've given up on their sites. Premium price should mean premium service, tech included, and they simply don't deliver.
02-25-08  02:56am

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Drooler (220) REPLY TO #5 - jd1961 :

And yet ClubSandy is the #4 all-time rated site here, and PixAndVideo is #7. I guess it takes time for enough people to be frustrated with them to vent (as we have here) about them -- only to be replaced by another group of dedazzled 21st Sextury newbie subscribers who might keep them in the Top 10.

Oh, well. At least we know better. I sure don't miss that sinking feeling that I blew $30-$45 on these sites anymore.

02-25-08  12:18pm

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damon21 (14)
Webmaster
(part 1 of 2)

Dear Porn Users,

We are sorry that you having bad experiences with our wesites lately.
I will try to explain what is going on and I'm sorry for not promptly answering your posts here on PornUsers.com

Our servers have again been under DDoS attacks for the last few weeks now. (Most likely caused by our competitors.)

For those who don't know much about DDoS attacks I've copied a part of the Wikipedia DDoS article here:
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"Distributed attack - A distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) occurs when multiple compromised systems flood the bandwidth or resources of a targeted system, usually one or more web servers. These systems are compromised by attackers using a variety of methods. [...]

A system may also be compromised with a trojan, allowing the attacker to download a zombie agent (or the trojan may contain one). Attackers can also break into systems using automated tools that exploit flaws in programs that listen for connections from remote hosts. This scenario primarily concerns systems acting as servers on the web. [...]

These collections of compromised systems are known as botnets. DDoS tools like stacheldraht still use classic DoS attack methods centered around IP spoofing and amplification like smurf attacks and fraggle attacks (these are also known as bandwidth consumption attacks). SYN floods (also known as resource starvation attacks) may also be used. Newer tools can use DNS servers for DoS purposes. [...]

More sophisticated attackers use DDoS tools for the purposes of extortion even against their business rivals.

It is important to note the difference between a DDoS and DoS attack [...] if an attacker uses a thousand zombie systems to simultaneously launch smurf attacks against a remote host, this would be classified as a DDoS attack.

The major advantages to an attacker of using a distributed denial-of-service attack are that multiple machines can generate more attack traffic than one machine, multiple attack machines are harder to turn off than one attack machine, and that the behavior of each attack machine can be stealthier, making it harder to track down and shut down. These attacker advantages cause challenges for defense mechanisms [...]"

(full article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ddos#Distributed_attack)
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We are working together with a traffic filtering partner (Prolexic) who is a market leader in the field of defending websites on the Internet. They have different techniques to separate 'bad' and 'good' incoming traffic. However there is no solution which meets all requirements - to filter all bad guys and to let all real visitors in.

03-06-08  06:51am

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damon21 (14)
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Our partner filters our incoming traffic but when filtering 'bad' traffic some 'good' traffic is also filtered out, because it is really hard to decide which server request is for viewing the website content and which one is for overloading our servers (in other words: attacking us).
The worst thing is that attackers are simulating normal visitors' behavior very well.

The result of this filtering is what you see as unavailable or slow websites, problems with downloads, etc. However there are some lucky places on the planet where all seem to be almost ok.

We are about to invest more in defense solutions in order to have this situation resolved as soon as possible to be able giving the service we are here for. But we need some time to proceed with all this technical stuff and new partners.

I hope this post will clear up some things about the recent problems with our websites.

If you experience any malfunctions on our websites, please
- contact our customer support at support [@] 21sextury.com
- in the case you can't even reach our websites, please send us your IP so we can have our filtering partner to put it onto their whitelist
- if you'd like to get a refund, please let us know and we'll give you a refund
- when we'll back to full normal operation as a compensation we'll give away free access for active members to additional websites in our portfolio

We appreciate your understanding and we're sorry for the inconveniences these attacks are causing.

All the bests,
Damon Baker
21sextury.com

03-06-08  06:51am

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exotics4me (463) REPLY TO #8 - damon21 :

Thanks Damon for the response. To give you an idea of how long I have been a member of the 21st Sextury sites, I used to talk to a rep there named Peter by email, that was back when you all first started having the problems with DDos attacks.

What is happening to me now is that I can't even get the site to open to join. I'm Porn Users biggest Eve Angel fan and had been planning to join Club Sandy and Pix and Video in a combo to get the newer sets that I don't have of Eve.

I will send an email with my IP address to the email address you listed, that is the same thing I had done before with Peter.

03-06-08  10:20pm

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Drooler (220) Hey Exotics,
I just saw today that Club Sandy has a new look and format. It looks gorgeous. The videos they say are supposed to be in 1280x720. I looked around quite a bit but couldn't find any specs on the pic sizes.

Meanwhile, there's a members poll at PixAndVideo asking if members want the pics to be 2000 or 3000px.

10-10-08  01:43pm

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Drooler (220) Wait. I just saw an Oct. 2008 news post on Club Sandy that said that, over time, they'll start reposting, in "HD," videos of the site that have appeared as far back as May 2008.

That means that the new site look is all that is really new for now, and the new "HD" stuff is just starting or is going to start fairly soon, but just for new posts plus whatever they might redo of pre-Oct. 08 stuff.

So I'm not holding my breath. It might take quite some time for all we know.

10-10-08  03:46pm

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exotics4me (463) REPLY TO #10 - Drooler :

Hey Drooler, I haven't seen any on there that are 1280. I still can't tell the exact dimensions of the newest ones that I have, which would be from summer, but looks to be in the 650 range and are mp4 files instead of .avi

Makes me wonder about the pictures, that poll has been there since July. The sad thing is, because more members are into the videos, they will focus more on the videos than the pictures. Though, I am usually 50/50 on pictures/videos. I have always loved the color and lighting in the 21st Sextury pictures. I will probably join again next month since I've all but ran out of sites to join.

10-10-08  10:39pm

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Drooler (220) REPLY TO #12 - exotics4me :

Really too bad that pics get pushed aside by videos. I think if the site took an even 50/50 approach, they'd do better because there are pic fans out there and I can't imagine photos of their quality that wouldn't be at least 3000px as "raw" files before processing (shrinking) for the site. What a waste of a good thing!

The video domination has gone too far. Take MyGlamour (Evelyn Lory's site). Lately, it's been almost NOTHING but videos!

10-11-08  01:22am

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exotics4me (463) REPLY TO #13 - Drooler :

I couldn't agree more. I always considered myself a video guy, but that was before finding Eve's solo site, while her videos are some of the best solo on the internet, her picture sets back in 2006 were and still are some of the best I've seen. May have more to do with her than anything else, but even now, I find myself joining sites because I like the color/lighting they use in their picture sets. Xisty comes to mind in their exclusive sets. Speaking of, they have 3 new Eve sets, so maybe she hasn't retired or gone away and was only taking a vacation. Babelicious also has a new set coming just in time for my birthday!
10-13-08  11:15pm

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