Well, messmer, American porn sites get off a lot on the themes Tits & Ass not quality Sex. So things like Big/Fake/Enhanced Tits; Big Ass, Booty, Rough Sex will always find a place over there. European Girls are by far better & sexually starved but will keep things straight except the obvious turn on Anal Sex. You should look up Massage as a Fetish, which usually turns everyone on
Seriously? I guarantee they dont have Brazzers beat on fake tits. The reason I am no longer at Brazzers is because thats all they use. NA does use a good bit, but at least they use girls like Victoria Lawson, India Summers, Lizzy London, etc.... often and not just all big fake tit girls like Brazzer always does outside of their teen site.
And to be fair, most of the girls in the industry have big fake tits, especially the ones based out of Cali, where NA shoots. Bang Bros and RK shoot mostly in Florida I believe, which is why they rack up alot of amateurs that dont have boob jobs.
Anyway, not trying to change your mind...just wanted to bring up a few points. Although I think Btazzers, NA and RK are all quality sites, I think BangBros is awful and has been for years. To each their own, though.
Yeah - NA is unique for the sheer goofy fun that they have - it's not about stunts for them, it's about "this will be a cool thing to do - we'll have fun", whether it's bacon lollipops or sharing dog biscuits with porn stars or buying a hula chair for everyone to ride.
That kind of relaxed atmosphere really helps the Live Shows, because you see some absolutely blisteringly hot show because of it - Cassidey was amazing when she was there, Madison Ivy was incredible, Kacey Jordan was wonderful the other day, etc
She was hilarious today! That bit with the hula chair - so fucking funny! Seemed to have completely cured her too - before the "chair", she still looked a little under the weather - after the chair, she was totally scumptious!
In the "Why I absolutely LOOOOVE Lauren at NA" category - I've got quite a crush on her - check out the archives of her interview with Sunny Leone (if you can bear to look at Sunny's fake boobs) from 12/02/09 where Lauren goes on a huge fashion rant about how great Sunny's clothes are and how anybody that doesn't like the outfit is a stupid fucking ug-boot lover - ha ha - hilarious - just beautiful!
To me, the main difference between the two companies is that one company (Brazzers) seems to only shoot models with large (and usually fake) breasts to the point of excluding popular models with real breasts. The other company (Naughty America) doesn't care about the breast size of the model, and just shoots who they think fits the theme/who the members want. And, from having been around for a long time, I can tell you that generally, the models with fake breasts tend to get requested more than the models with real breasts. I feel like they still make a concerted effort to bring natural women around (usually at least one per day on the Live shows, and at least 3-4 scenes per week). Could the ratio be better? Honestly, I do think so. But, judging by the general reaction on their forums, this seems to be what the members want. And I'm not gonna begrudge them for giving the members what they want.
Lauren says what Lauren thinks. To expect Lauren to say what you want her to say, well that's not very fair. If you want to do Live With Messner, you should say what you think about fake boobs.
Lauren's also interviewing porn babes and I think she wants to pump them up - when she's not showing off how much smarter she is than they are - lol - she likes to kind of torture them a bit that way.
Does NA promote the whole big-boobed thing? Yeah, they do. Could they go against the grain and say "We're sick of fake boobs and we're not having porn babes with fake boobs on our site?" I suppose, but I doubt that they would be as commercially successful a site.
I've heard Lauren express pro-natural-boob sentiments when she's reviewing scenes, but she's probably as conflicted as I am - I like natural boobs - but confronted with a babe who looks smoking hot with enhanced ones, I'm gonna tell her that she looks fantastic and I'll definitely want my hands and mouth on them. I love Lauren's delight when she gets to get her hands on nice boobs - like a little girl that just got a ride on a pony.
I could understand them wanting to edit if it was a tirade that all their models are ugly and stupid but since that's not what it was.
Good for NA to have gone back on what was a bad business decision.
I'm with you. Let's hope more models chose to do like Jenna Haze.
If that girl can be super popular after many years and still have her original equipment then there is no excuse for saying that you need them to get jobs.
I have no clue if that is the scene you commented on, but that should answer anyone's questions as to whether they consistently censor negative comments/reviews.
I would hope that a site would keep both the positive and negative comments on their forum but maybe the negatives one should have an even bigger meaning. Afterall a site usually knows what they are doin g right but may not always know where they could use some improvements. If a comment is insighfull and inteligent then the fact thatit's negative or positive should have no bearing on whether it gets removed or kept.
Whether or not there are NA staff here, there are people in this forum that are VERY active NA members - at many/most of the live shows, active in the forum, etc. I've had people make comments to me - helpful ones - in NA live shows based on comments that I have made in this forum.
So it may be a case of a comment "dropping off" that forum and reappearing, or it may be a case of a helpful NA/PU member e-mailing an NA mod and saying, "you know, it might be a cooler thing to do to just let that comment stay".
I dunno, but it's a possibility.
NA's a site that deserves the positivity, in my opinion. They are trying to have a very good site, they are very good to their members in many ways, such as hiring active members' faves to do live shows on their birthday.
But sites that are cool sites are going to stumble too - just like people who are cool are likely to fuck up once in a while. That's just human beings, you know?
That happens sometimes. Really, comments on scenes going missing and coming back isn't a new thing. And it happens with good and bad ones (I only make positive comments, and I've had it happen to me). If there's one definite fly in the ointment there, it's the tech issues that have been popping up over the last few months. None of them are deal-breaking, per se, but you do notice them, and they can get to be annoying.
I am so close to rejoining. It's been a while since I was a member and the site looks new and better compared to the disorganized version I remembered.
I hope the site doesn't have that old problem where I had to continuously re-log on to each site that they had.
One big problem I just remembered is that most of the actress they used in their Mature sites(Sex Teacher, Cougars and My Best Friend's Mom) is that they didn't look to mature for me. Its sad when they decide to use a person in their 30s. That just doesn't hit the barrier for me.
Messmer, your right on a lot, but I don't mine if their real or not. Maybe they can start a website or an option in their search tools for customers to find real breast verses the other.
I noticed that the setup for most of the scenes are completely the same for each of their category. I do wish that their are some changes. Eroticism is a fading art form. I don't know about you, but I can basically create a better scene than what most of these scenes are setup on.
And it would be more interesting if their was some more interesting dialog before, during and after the sex.(I know people its porn, but still...)
This can be seen in non porn movies and shows as well :( How many times do I see something in a high school setting and all the 'kids' look like men and women in their early or mid twenties with flawless features. I guess it's just a reality in all forms of entertainment. I am surprised that naughty america and the other old n' young sites don't go and try to get male performers 'just of age'. They do this with the female stars, why not the males too? I don't see this as a problem when the male performers are supposed to be older in the same niche, they seem to do a better job and get actual older stars (dunno bout this place but in general).
Could be the result of inter-generational cross-breeding. In the new permissive society, women can date men who are either older or younger than themselves. Thus, the sons and boyfriends of their significant others could also be approximately the same age as the mothers. "If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with" mentality.
It's sometimes hard to find good porn. Too many nitpicking details get in the way of our enjoyment.
Yeah, I've never really understood why people tend to be so against change, it really doesn't make sense. But that's how it is sometimes. I hope people get over it, because I do like Naughty America as a company and would love to see them shake things up a bit. And I guess I meant to imply that mainstream porn is filled with women with fake breasts (i.e. the Vivid/Wicked/Digital Playground/Adam & Eve/etc. of the world). But there are a bunch of websites out there that aren't nearly as bad. But let me put it to you this way, Brazzers has 9 different sites dedicated exclusively to large breasts (and only one of them cares whether they are real or not):
Big Tits at Work
Big Tits at School
Big Tits in Sports
Baby's Got Boobs
Mommy's Got Boobs
Racks and Blacks
Bustyz
Busty and Real Jug Fuckers
Now I will admit that some of those sites probably don't update anymore, but that's still more than a third of their network dedicated to large breasts.
I agree with you on this one. Why can't N/A find guys that look
like college guys instead of men in their 30's playing these
student and son roles. European old/young videos do a way better
job where age play is concerned.
Honestly, I love Naughty America, but I completely agree that the biggest mark against it is that, in the end, it is the same scene over and over again with different actors and slightly different scenarios. But the problem becomes that when you get as big as they have probably gotten, your members come to expect a certain type of scene, and when you start to deviate from it, they get upset. And they get vocal about it. I can bring up two examples that apply to Naughty America in particular.
The first is when they brought out Naughty Flipside in 2007, which I would argue was their attempt at making alt-type porn. They scenes were, at worst about the same quality as their other scenes, but the members never got into it, and site only lasted for about 3 months before they stopped updating it.
The second is a lot more recent. Around late October/early November, they started to release scenes shot with a fixed-position camera (i.e. home-video style). I was a member on their forums at that point, and there was a huge outrage about it. People saying that this wasn't what they signed up for, that they hated it, etc. If you look at the reviews for those scenes, they say the same thing. So they tried to compromise by only putting the home video styles scenes on their own special category (the general Naughty America site) and having those scenes come out in addition to their normal 13 scenes shot regular style per week. But people still didn't stop complaining. They didn't stop until the producers agreed to stop doing it altogether.
So, in the end, while complacency is probably a large part of it, I think part of the problem is that the larger sites have become so big that they can't really experiment or change things up on a larger scale, because they get a backlash from the members who like things the way they are (and let's be honest, if they didn't like things the way they were, they wouldn't be members in the first place). Smaller sites have the ability to be more nimble, but when it comes to large networks, it's almost a "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.
P.S. - Also, give me a site that isn't specifically small or naturally breasted specific that isn't drowning in fake breasts. The entire porn world is drowning in fake breasts, this is just a microcosm of that. And at least they aren't as bad about it as Brazzers.
Don't worry too much about forgetting if you replied to that thread, I had the same concerns when I asked since if you did reply to it, that would mean I forgot if you replied or not!
I am making more comments than reviews these days. It is hard to believe that I only have 17 reviews since October 2008, which means I had 142 before then. I had been averaging around 12 reviews per month, now I've been reduced to not quite 3 per month.
My problem, and Drooler has talked about this too, it could also be what you are running into is that I know exactly what I want and expect from a site. I can join a new site and within 2 hours can tell you whether I love it or hate it.
Then I run into a member like GCode and he is just now getting into the Euro models and I find myself thinking I should review more based on the technical, numbers, part of the site, and like with you, my frustration with the same ol', same ol' tries to creep in and tell me to ignore those HD videos.
I've felt this way about one site especially and that is Brazzers. I joined it in January, believe it was my 5th time over the years and I honestly signed in one time and didn't go back. Even some of my favorite actresses are becoming stale to me. Kind of feels like a bad marriage in that sense!
I really wish Eve Angel's solo site hadn't become a recycling site and dropped their TBP discount of $15. I would highly recommended it to you for the eroticism she presents on that site. Some of her content on other sites isn't nearly as good. To this day, I still watch her videos from her original site more than all other videos combined. She is just playful enough, just tease enough to make her different than the majority of models and most of all, she somehow was able to produce over 250 videos on that site of her having real orgasms, the last few months were questionable, but before that she really gave her all. I think that shows by DDF picking her up to start a new solo site, which I check 2-3 times a day to see if it is open yet ha ha!
Messmer, I wonder if you replied to or read my thread awhile back about re-review dilemmas? The further I go into porn, the years pass, and many of the sites that I have scored high in the past, wouldn't be as high now simply because it is all the same as it was 2 years ago. That thread was about the dilemma I was in, in my re-reviews because I could review them from a pure technical view, saying they have X amount of content, high resolution videos, etc...
Or should I start adding a more personal feeling that this or that site just doesn't do anything for me anymore. I couldn't figure out what was the right way to go about that since I felt like those reading my reviews may or may not think 300th straight facial was boring, and that is why re-reviews or even reviews have become much harder for me to do.
My point being, I agree that the b/g scenes these days are downright boring. I would guess it is the biggest reason that I prefer solo. Not to overhype my favorite model, but Eve Angel and her fingers or dildo is more erotic than 99.9% of hardcore on the internet. She has the full tease, strip, eye contact with the camera, tongue licking her lips and her masturbation causes her to have full body jerks and spasms.
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