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2026
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Reality Kings
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lk2fireone's Comment
When I was a member the limit was imposed on me and was usually imposed lower than the 10GB limit. I reviewed the Terms of Service and found the applicable clause to be vague. I still do. I contacted the site and asked for clarification on how they interpret that clause and did not receive an answer. Even if they didn't respond to my specific email, you'd think that if they saw the confusion here they'd weigh in and provide some clarification.
The vague element of theTOS is what are "big movies". The TOS makes it sound like the daily limit is 25GB, but I never experienced that. To further complicate matters, the way you're downloads get reactivated is also confusing. My recollection is that after 24 hours I didn't get my 10GB back, but only got it back over a period of hours. So if I hit the limit at 10PM on day one, I wasn't given 10GB at 10:01PM on day two. I was given some download ability but would quickly hit the wall again and have to wait an hour or so before I could download more. That was frustrating enough, but to add to my frustration was when I would read comments from other PU members who reported no limits.
I don't think I'm an unusual PU in what I download, but with file sizes approaching 1GB and fiber op connections becoming more common I think a lot of people would find a 10GB limit low.
I'm not opposed to limits, but they need to be realistic, clear and evenly applied. This site lacks those elements. That's too bad too, because I liked the content and would rejoin otherwise.
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09-21-12 03:07am
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2027
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Moleman2040's Comment
I'm pretty sure I know the frustration that you're feeling. When I joined I faced a similar situation: my 10GB download limit would kick in at anywhere between 7 and 9GB and to completely reset it I'd need to wait 48 hours. But, as you point out, adding to the frustration was the fact that there are PU members who said they had no limits imposed on them. I recall that at the time of my membership when I was complaining about limits there was another PU member with an RK membership who said he could download all day with no limits. The icing on the cake was that the clause in the Terms of Service is so vague that I couldn't make out what it meant and RK never bothered to reply to my email asking for clarification.
I liked RK but I doubt I'll ever rejoin. I'm okay with a download limit as long as it is clearly stated and applies to everyone.
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07-26-12 04:25am
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2028
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Reality Kings
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hodayathink's Reply
I found that I usually got shut off after about 8GB of downlaods. But if it happens, don't worry too much as they'll reactivate you after 24 hours.
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03-29-12 09:48am
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2029
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Reality Kings
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hodayathink's Comment
Hmmm... if you're annoyed at the file size, wait until how happy you are when they cut you off for having the audacity to download several of them in one day.
Several of us here had the download cap imposed on us and several didn't. I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to hear how you make out with this. Please let us know when you can.
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03-28-12 06:06pm
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2030
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Reality Kings
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exotics4me's Comment
I don't recall that I had any trouble cancelling, but my memory may be hazy due to being so pissed off at the download limit. It's good to hear that they're still applying it to some people and not to others, that way I can still be mad at them.
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02-15-12 04:38pm
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2031
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Reality Kings
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BubbaGump's Reply
All good points again. I certainly fit the description of a power users for the first few days of a membership. I'll scour the site for material that interests me, and I'll download that. I won't download something simply because it happens to be on the site. There has to be a reasonable expectation that I'll like what I download. There are several dozen models that I like and if a site has stuff with them I'll download it without question. If I can sort by theme, anal sex, for example, then I'lld o that, but I won't download a scene merely because it has anal sex. If the anal sex scene features a MILF with Double-Ds, then I won't DL that because that type of model doesn't do it for me. So after a few days of downloading madly I'll settle down and be a lot more selective. That's when I start looking at models I don't know in hopes of finding someone who tickle my fancy.
I can see how a DL limit might limit piracy. If a pirate has to take days or months to rip a site, they'll probably avoiding it.
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01-21-12 05:46am
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2032
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Reality Kings
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BubbaGump's Reply
What you're saying doesn't sound like BS at all - it sounds perfectly sensible.
I guess I didn't ever think of most other active buyers as being that much different from me in that they'd find a site that they liked and then download a lot of the content because they actually like it. That describes my relationship with many Kink.com sites. I join frequently and download all the new material because that site offers what I like. The opposite might be a site that specializes in big breasts. If I were tempted to join a site it would likely just be for one or two scenes that I liked and then I'd leave. But I guess I just assumed that most users will actually download a lot. But if that isn't the case, I can understand why I'd be seen as a power user and a less desirable customer. I do realize from some comments made on this site that many of the members are much more selective than me.
It must be a bit of a Catch-22 for sites: they create a niche site and they do it well and then they'd have to hope that people who like that niche won't like everything on the site.
Thanks for the information. This is really interesting.
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01-17-12 01:08pm
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2033
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Reality Kings
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BubbaGump's Reply
Thanks for the excellent information. Your technical knowledge surpasses mine exponentially. I realize that some people might find this level of information boring, but I'm not one of those.
I hadn't thought of the issue you note with streaming versus downloading, namely that a person streaming the video is unlikely to watch the whole thing, where the person downloading takes the whole file. To add to your argument, even though I download, it's rare for me to watch the scene from start to finish. But where downloading is superior is in being able to access the file at any time without having to have an internet connection or still be a member of the site.
I'm one of the members who keeps coming back to the buffet and who likely looks like a glutton, but I only join sites where I know I'm going to enjoy the material so it just makes sense that if I've put a lot of effort into finding a site I know I'll like that I download a lot. I may seem indiscriminate to the webmaster, but the webmaster can't know the effort I put in to finding that specific site.
I am glad to hear that if there are people like me who use a lot of bandwidth that there are more who don't and the site continues to make money. I'm a porn fan and an active porn buyer and I realize that unless sites make money they won't make more porn.
What do you think of tiered pricing? What if RK offered a $20 membership for streaming and up to 10GB a day and $30 for up to 50GB per day? Would that work? I'm certainly willing to pay for what I get.
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01-13-12 10:01am
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2034
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Reality Kings
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BubbaGump's Reply
I should have read this response before asking you questions based on your other response! I'd say you answered my questions here.
I agree that piracy is probably a big concern, but limits still bug me!
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01-12-12 02:02pm
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2035
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Reality Kings
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BubbaGump's Reply
Interesting thought, and it makes sense with so many people using streaming these days.
I have no technical knowledge at all, but how would streaming and downloading be different from a server's perspective? I didn't download any HD material because of the cap and I don't recall if HD was offered by streaming, but if I download a 2GB scene and you stream it, wouldn't that be the same to the server? But... now that I think of it, I could be comparing apples and oranges here too. I recall that a WMV HD scene is less compressed than an mp4, so streaming may even use a higher compression, thereby making your streaming less of a data hog than my downloading.
Still... it seems odd that I'd be cut off after accessing 10GB of data and other users wouldn't.
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01-12-12 02:00pm
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2036
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Reality Kings
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BubbaGump's Review
Really interesting, informative and well written review! I like the level of detail and I expecially like your thorough descriptions and how your own tastes impact on how you view the site. That's an important element because it allows a reader to make decisions on how their own tastes will be served by the site. I also liked your letter grades for various aspects. That works well within the context of a full review like this.
I was a RK member here recently and HATED the daily download limit. That tainted everything else about the site for me, and I wasn’t that big a fan of the site to begin with. What I find interesting is that the limit doesn’t apply to streaming. Is it possible that you just didn’t hit the 10GB cut-off? I’ll admit though that the contract speaks to a cap on downloads, not data transfer. If they cap downloads by allow data to stream unfettered, this seems odd and may point to another purpose for the limit. Any thoughts?
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01-12-12 04:09am
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2037
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Reality Kings
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slutty's Review
Great review! It gives me some confidence to know that another person looks at the site independently and comes to pretty much the same conclusion.
Something you wrote made me realize I missed something in my review. You said that you didn't download any HD files because of the limit. Neither did I and for the same reason. So why should they bother having them at all? The regular wmv files can be in excess of 1GB so I can imagine that the HD ones are much bigger. Is it vanity on their part to think that a member would join and love the material so much that they'd be satisfied downloading five scenes a day?
I also agree that they're a bit ass-obsessed. But... not all ass obsessions are the same. I'm ass-obsessed too but none of the RK sites appealed to me. The RK sites promote big asses. I prefer smaller. But I'd only say no to Alexis Texas if Tanner Mayes was in the room... And oddly for a big network, the only anal site (Captain Stabbin) rarely updates. I can see if they think the theme has run out of steam (pun intended) but why give up on the genre?
Anyway, great review and I really enjoyed reading it. Too bad that like you, it won't induce me to join ever again.
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01-03-12 02:26pm
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2038
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Reality Kings
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slutty's Reply
No. I went to the biller's site. I'll try the RK site itself. Thanks for the tip.
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01-02-12 02:53pm
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2039
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Reality Kings
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slutty's Reply
I agree, file sizes would make sense here. But the real problem is the use of an unreasonbaly low limit.
To add icing to the Reality Kings cake, I can't cancel my membership. They use a biller called Secure Billing Worldwide and when I go through the cancellation process and get to the last screen where I can opt to stay with RK at a reduced price or cancel, there are no buttons that allow you to make either choice. This isn't a Reality Kings problem, obviously, but it adds to the frustration I've had with the membership.
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01-02-12 02:29pm
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2040
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Reality Kings
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slutty's Reply
I look forward to reading your thoughts on the site.
I wonder if the cap is something they've always had but just never enforced until recently? That would explain why some people never hit the limits and some of us did. Or else they just enforce it randomly, which is also a reasonable theory.
Like you, this will probably be my last time at this site. It has become stale and repetitive. I still like some of the sites a bit, but the low, low, low limit added to a mostly bland network means I won't be back. And the fact that they didn't have the courtesy to even reply to my email is just rubbing salt in the wound. I had low expectations when I sent the email so at least I could claim that they met my expectations.
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01-02-12 06:39am
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2041
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Reality Kings
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pat362's Reply
I agree that any comparison between porn and mainstream movies economies is silly. But with gross sales being what they are it makes clear how big the porn industry is.
I've been spending a lot of time at ADT reading old threads. It's an amazing site for porn trivia. I haven't posted anything yet, but PU will be my default site for as long as it exists. And the purposes of the sites are completely different, as you point out so one could never replace the other.
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12-29-11 07:41am
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2042
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Reality Kings
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pat362's Reply
pat, as usual you're a source of great information!
For me, Captain Stabbin isn't about the crew but I have a nautical fetish AND an anal fetish so this site is a sensory overload for me. I do like the original Captain as he's just so lucky and he knows how lucky he is.
I hadn't really given any thought to the economics of mainstream porn. I guess I always thought that it was a great way to get rich fast, but after reading what you wrote that obviously isn't the case. I hear estimated numbers that the porn industry brings in each year, and I recall that the porn industry is reputed to bring in more than Hollywood, but there are tons of studios out there cranking out the titles. And I'm certain that piracy hurts the porn industry more than the mainstream movie business just because of the size of studios.
Still... I suspect that when a star like Tanner does her first anal it will also sell better than the average movie. But the piracy will be more too. I'll definitely be keeping an eye out for any Tanner anal scenes that might come out in 2012.
I just signed up for the forums at ADT and there is a lot of useful information there as you said. Thanks for that tip!
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12-28-11 07:01am
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2043
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Reality Kings
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exotics4me's Reply
I didn't count my downloads yesterday but I was well in excess of 10GB and maybe even over 20 before I got shut down. I find the variations in the limit more annoying than the limit itself. And I have to admit that I'm pretty pissed that they don't even have the courtesy to reply to my email. I wasn't rude or even remotely challenging or negative. All I did was ask them for some clarification. It seems that like so many mega sites they see customer service as ending once they get a credit card number. It makes those sites that actually do care about customers seem that much better.
I've considered Teen Mega World a few times, and it's on my list of sites to join, but I haven't yet. Knowing that the models are what I like might bump them up a bit.
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12-27-11 05:21am
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2044
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Reality Kings
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pat362's Reply
I probably still would have joined because the promo pages made it look like Captain Stabbin was back on the high seas and i always liked that site. It isn't really back, but there are some new scenes.
I'm surprised that Tanner would have done anal for Evil Angel since EA has a bit of a reputation for porn on the harder side. They must have driven a dump truck full of money to her front door to entice her to shoot anal for them. Thanks for the tip and I'll definitely be looking for those scenes. If you ever hear the titles would you let me know please?
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12-27-11 05:14am
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2045
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Reality Kings
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exotics4me's Reply
exotics - I just thought of something else. If you're still a member there now and are willing to do this for me, please check the contract terms the next time you're there. You can access it at the bottom of the main page by clicking "Terms" and the contract comes up. Section VI is on "Membership" and paragraph E is on the download limit. (or you can just search 'download limit' and find it quickly too. It may be that you're even a memmber under a different contract. That makes no sense, but who knows? It might be possible.
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12-20-11 05:05pm
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2046
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Reality Kings
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exotics4me's Reply
This is really strange. You can exceed the maximum by a factor of six and I actually get shut down at 8GB one day. I really hope that the site staff answer my email. I think the questions I asked are fair. But maybe the answer might not be good for you - maybe they'll impose the limit on you too!
I have no idea if distance matters, but I doubt it. Besides, a porn buddy of mine who lives near me also reported that he had no daily limit. My theory was that it was new, but since you still have a membership and don't have a limit that scraps that theory too.
All I download are the wmv files. If HD is available I don't download it. I know there is some rule about "big" files but I don't know what they mean by big files. Does that apply to any file of any format that is over a certain size or does it refer to a particular format only? That would seem a bit odd to allow a member unlimited downloads for massive HD files but cap a guy with a slower connection who is downloading smaller files.
No matter how this turns out it really won't be that big a deal. I'm not out much, and I'd have to admit that after a month I'll have still had my money's worth. And honestly, I'm not all that impressed with the network. I'd like to think that's not just because they imposed a limit on me and some other but not on everyone, but most of the material is pretty cookie-cutter. And the video quality is nothing to get excited about either.
I think your theory about being allowed to accumulate 10GB days for a few days and then using them is interesting. That might just be possible. Arguing against that is once I hit the limit the screen I get says I've exceeded 10GB is a 24 hour period. It still seems like you and some other members are getting a better deal! I hope it continues for you!
If I ever do get a reply to my email I'll be sure to let everyone know what the terms of the limit actually mean.
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12-20-11 04:29pm
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2047
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Reality Kings
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elephant's Reply
No answer yet... I think the questions I asked are reasonable and my tone was very respectful, so I'm hoping that maybe, just maybe the site's staff will provide some answers.
I did get unlock after 24 hours and appeared to have the full allotment again. But by "full allotment" I mean that I wasn't actually allowed to exceed 10GB. The first day I was allowed just over 9GB and the second day just over 8GB.
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12-20-11 04:17pm
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2048
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Reality Kings
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selphy's Reply
I did sign up, but at least thanks to the members here I knew what I was getting into.
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12-20-11 04:10pm
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2049
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Reality Kings
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elephant's Reply
On some sites, like Young Legal Porn and ALS Scan imposing such a low limit would mean you could only download a few scenes a day. I agree that with internet speeds and cost today a limit of 60-100GB per day would make more sense. 10GB (or 9 in my case...) doesn't make sense in 2011.
I realize that it is Sunday so I'm not looking for a reply to my questions today, but I do hope they reply and give some clear answers about a policy that is anything but clear. Exotics4me didn't have a cap, and another member here who doesn't post but who is a real-life porn buddy of mine said he never got locked out and downloaded 50+Gb per day.
I'm about 21 hours into being locked out so I'm interested to see what will happen in a few hours. If selphy is right, and I have no reason to think that he isn't, I won't get 10GB access right away but will get it back gradually. That will be a real piss-off.
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12-18-11 09:59am
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2050
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Reality Kings
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elephant's Reply
It is a big pain in the ass, but at least I knew about it when i joined. I'd be very pissed if I didn't know about it. I can even understand why a site might want to impose a limit, but 10GB per days seems awfully low. With a fiber op connection a member can hit that in an hour.
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12-18-11 07:40am
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