The site is anonymous to a degree. And how likely are we to meet? Even if we do, would we be wearing our PU membership badges and carrying a sign to identify us to each other? Unless PU sponsors a convention, the chances of us hooking up in real life are pretty slim.
So I think it's safer to talk openly about sex here at PU than with real-life friends or relatives.
You only have to worry about how much the FBI and Department of Defense and Homeland Security are keeping records on what we write.
slutty, I took it as a compliment that you basically agreed with my review. I did not intend my reply as showing any disagreement. I just tend to ramble a lot, and sometimes people read into my words ideas I did not mean at all. You did not come off as compative (though I am not really sure what compative means).
There's a lot of the network I haven't seen myself. Or downloaded.
I assume you joined the network through the spunkybee site? Or did you find another site with a better offer?
There is a model named Klara at this site that is also called Aurita and Vera at the site. She started in porn maybe a year ago, and is appearing on a lot of different sites in both softcore and hardcore, at TeenMegaWorld network, Nubiles, and other sites. I think she even has 1 photoset at Met-art. I find her very attractive, and her videos at this site are among the best of the site. You might want to check her videos out at this site.
There are two other models named Klara at this site. I thought the video of the model named Klara with only one video at this site, listed as "Kaspar and Klara on video", that downloads as 252.wmv, is a good video.
I think that scoring a site is very subjective, and the score itself is only a very general opinion. Just like one critic might think a movie is excellent while another critic thinks the movie is just good or just OK, or possibly a waste of time, people will find different values in a porn site.
I gave the site a very high score because I liked the way the girls were treated with respect or affection instead of being treated as sluts or whores like many gonzo videos show.
But someone else could give the site a score of 80 or even 70 and I
wouldn't really disagree with their score, because that is their opinion.
I could have given the site a score of 80 myself, with no problem. I know that PU/TBP appears to believe a score represents something solid, but I do not. When I read a review, I am less interested in the score, which is a very general guide of the reviewer's opinion, than in the details of the review, what the person likes and dislikes about the site.
As far as acting as a possible guide to my joining the site, a lot depends on whether my tastes agree with the reviewer's. Many sites that get very high scores are not sites I would ever join, because I don't like the content of the sites.
I agree that navigation is not perfect. But I have a slow DSL connection, and what really helps me is having nice-sized thumbnails to show what the models look like. That makes it much easier for me to decide whether to view the video. At other sites in the network, there is no good-sized thumbnail, so I have to try streaming, which sucks for me with slow DSL, and some sites don't even have streaming. With no streaming, then I have to download the video, which can easily take two hours or more. So that's why I said the navigation is good, because for me, it's so much better than what some of the other sites have.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
-The best site design of this network I've seen so far.
-Nice-sized thumbnail for each model, giving you a good idea of what the model looks like. Many of the network sites have no nice-sized thumbnail of the model, so you have to play the streaming video or download the complete video before you get an idea of what the model looks like.
-Multiple viewing/downloading options:
Steaming: in low, medium, high quality
Screenshots: good sized, blurry to nice quality, to illustrate the video, could be downloaded as individual photos, but mainly useful to see what
the model looks like and to get an idea of the action.
Download options:
WMV, low, medium, high quality
MPEG
MOV
-Advertises daily updates of videos.
-No DRM
-Easy login to site.
-I don't like captcha, but this site has the easiest to read captcha that I've seen.
Search is basic but functional: search by model name returns model's videos and thumbnail of model.
Cons:
Mostly minor:
-There is a site timeout. But login is easy.
-Advertises 500+ teen porn videos. My sense is there are far less videos at the site, but since there is no simple txt listing of videos, I won't take the time and effort to count the videos.
-A high-speed connection is really helpful. A high quality 30 minute video file is about 1.3 GB. To download that file takes 2 hours 30 minutes for a download speed of 150 KB/s. I can't watch the videos in streaming, because they stutter and stop. But I believe most PU members have fast Internet connections so watching a
streaming video would be no problem.
-Search is basic: Can't search by description of model, or by type of sexual activity.
-Need to manually create your own listing for the videos you download. Files are named as 342.wmv, 201.wmv, 199.wmv. Write your own description of model, and whatever else you want to know, with the file name/number.
-Watermark-bottom right corner, larger than needed.
Bottom Line:
Excellent hardcore teen video site.
The videos are crystal clear for hardcore. Great definition, good lighting. There is actually foreplay and cuddling and kissing before the
sex in many scenes. Many of the girls are extremely attractive, and even the male teens are good-looking. Good camera work on the videos. Instead of gonzo sex, you get scenes of guys and girls making out and having sex. And during the sex, instead of just shots of 2 or more bodies banging away, you actually get to look at some lovely girls enjoying a sexual experience.
The lighting is generally ok to good. The skin color and skin tone of the models is generally ok to good.
At most of the Euro teen sites, the models are almost all small breasted, which I like. There are some models here with medium-sized or larger
breasts. But all the breasts appear natural. No fake plastic boobies, almost no tattoos on the female models, very little piercing (some belly
button or ear-rings, but that is minor). It's really nice the girls are so young and clean-looking.
Obviously not all videos are going to have good lighting and good skin tone color and good everything else, but the general level of the videos is very high for a hardcore video site.
Most of the videos are 1 boy-1 girl, which is what I prefer.
There are a few vids with 2 boys-2 girls.
I saw 1 lesbian scene.
I saw 1 female solo masturbation scene.
Models take a less gonzo style approach to sex. There is actually some tenderness and cuddling and stroking before getting down to hardcore sex. No strip tease, but a big improvement over the wham-bam-fuck-the-slut approach.
Female models don't give out with a lot of fake moans and groans. They do make some sounds expressing enjoyment and excitement, but these are more believable, natural sounds instead of the show-boaty expressions of American porn where the females start screaming: "GOD", "FUCK THAT CUNT", "OOOHHHWHEEEE!!!" as soon as the male gets within 25 1/2 inches of their body. (Slight exaggeration, possibly, or maybe not. :))
The male models are young, fresh, mainly good-looking teens. In some cases the boys look as good or better than the females.
The male actors treat the females, in general, with liking and respect.
There is little to no humiliation or abuse of the female models.
Bottom Line: This is a hardcore video site that makes a nice change of pace from gonzo sex.
I am giving the site a score of 90, because it's the one of the better hardcore video sites I've seen (not to be compared to DVD sites like VideoBox or VideosZ) treating the models with respect, affection, gentle sex, whatever.
My current ISP DSL download speed maxes out at 150-160 KB/s. I am seriously considering paying more for a faster connection.
Until I do get a faster connection, the 3-day trials are not that helpful to me. To download a single 1.3 GB video file takes about 2 hours 30 minutes, and if I'm surfing the Internet or looking at other sites, that slows my download speed so the download takes even longer.
I can't really watch these videos as streaming, because they mostly stutter and stop, stutter and stop, while playing.
So I just need a faster connection. :)
There do appear to be a large number of videos at the Tony Bucks network. My experience has mainly been softcore photosets. I haven't seen any of the videos at Tony Bucks at other sites. There are some attractive models here.
slutty, please see my comment posted today, titled "Special offer ends today". It explains a cheaper way to join the network, and to get access to 10 sites in the network, instead of just access to 1 or 3 sites in the network. That comment was added to the 18stream page at PU. I posted my reply to you as a comment, instead of a reply here, because PU limits the lines and length of a reply. :)
(Continuation of original comment. Added because comments are limited to a certain number of characters and a certain number of lines.)
If you join the same network from one of the other sites in the network, you will probably pay $29.95 for 1 month, but you will get a smaller number of bonus sites in your membership. You can get access to anywhere from 3 or more sites, up to 10 sites, depending on which site you join through. There are 11 sites in the network, but I didn't see any offer which included all 11 sites.
It makes no sense, offering access to different numbers of sites depending on which site you join through, but that's the way it sometimes happens.
At each of their sites, they advertise that the special offer ends today.
Maybe they will extend the offer, maybe not.
But if you are seriously considering the network, I would take advantage of the special offer, and join today, and join through the spunky bee site.
slutty, you can view the videos online by streaming, or you can download them to your PC in multiple formats. But you are right, it is kind of misleading to see "streaming" in the name, because we almost all want to collect our porn and be able to download it.
The price of the site by itself is kind of expensive. To join the site directly, you have to pay $34.95 monthly.
Normally, you just get the single site itself when you join.
They are having a special offer, that if you join them, you get 18 stream plus two other sites in the network:
rough18
spunkybee
But the network, if you join through the spunkybee site instead, you only pay $29.95 (you save $5).
Plus, more important than saving $5, you also get access to 10 sites in the network, including the 18 stream site.
The sites you have access to, by joining through spunkybee include:
If done right, a softcore or midcore video can be erotic. But most softcore videos are boring. Take a look at the Metart videos, which can feature lovely teens, and their videos are almost all a waste of time. While photosets of the same models can be strongly erotic. I wish someone would explain the reasons for that in a simple way.
Is masturbation softcore? If I had to choose between softcore and hardcore, I would put masturbation in the hardcore category. Simple nudity is softcore, but any sexual act would belong in the hardcore category, beyond simple kisses to the face.
Most softcore videos are really boring, no matter how attractive the model might be. I don't know why that is, but that's my reaction to most softcore videos.
Softcore photos can be extremely erotic, but it's hard to find good softcore videos.
Not a Japanese expert, but the mosaic blurry-thing is something you have to learn to accept, since it is present in most hardcore Japanese porn. I don't like it blurry, but Japanese porn can have a different flavor, lots of pretty Japanese models, and I don't really know if it's worth trying to find Japanese porn without the mosaic.
The videos are crystal clear for hardcore. Great definition, good lighting. There is actually foreplay and cuddling and kissing before the sex in many scenes. Many of the girls are extremely attractive, and even the male teens are good-looking. Good camera work on the videos. Instead of gonzo sex, you get scenes of guys and girls making out and having sex.
A really nice change of pace from many of the gonzo-style teen sites.
And during the sex, instead of just shots of 2 or more bodies banging away, you actually get to look at some lovely girls enjoying a sexual experience.
Thanks for the positive vote, TheSquirrel. But my reviews are really far below the outstanding reviews of someone like Toadsith. That guy has the technical knowledge, clear thinking, organization and way with words to write reviews that are informative and a pleasure to read.
There is definitely a hard-pro tone to most of the videos here. A few of the girls appear new to porn, but that is the exception. And even the new girls, if you see them in a second or third video clip, are fast turning into pros.
Personal taste varies widely. I don't know what you like. There were a few videos I found a year ago that I thought were very interesting and colorful, but I can't find them this time. Which is disappointing.
For $10 you get a 1-month membership to 22 different sites. (I don't know what the rate is for Europe). That is a very low price for around 5 sites that are solid hard-core video sites, with the other sites being niche sites (tranny, Indian [the country], etc.).
But it all depends on what turns you on.
There are sites out there that are worth the money. You just have to keep searching, and keep up the strength. Life, and porn, is what you make of it. :)
If you are a serious collector and you want all of the Rocco DVDs, you won't find them here. The guy has been in the business a huge number of years, and his output is tremendous. What you do get is a large number of scenes from his older work, and an even larger number of scenes from his more recent work (recent going back 10 years or more). You also get scenes/vid clips where he does not appear, but he is in a large number of the clips. As I said, he is the star of the site, and he takes a lot of pride in his porn star status.
I do agree with you that the price is very reasonable, because you get access to a large number of sites in the network. There are maybe 5 sites that are the main value, and a bunch of niche sites that might have some content that you might like, or find interesting, or a waste of time. Personal preferences vary widely. :)
For $10 for a 1-month membership, I definitely think the site/network is worth checking out.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
-Large amount of content.
-Wide variety of content of sexual activity.
-Current Site Stats (2010-09-14):
Movies : 998
DVDs : 212
Actors : 1019
Hours : 440
Total Size : 398 Gb
-Site is currently updating. Updates 1 video clip every 1-4 days (very irregular update schedule).
-No DRM.
-No site timeout.
-No watermark on older style videos.
Cons:
-Navigation is basic and awkward.
-To log on to the network, you have to enter through the site you joined
through. You can't log on directly to any of the sister sites you have access to. Once you log on to the site you joined, only then can you enter
one of the sister sites you have access to.
-Moving around a single site is basic and awkward. To search for files at the site, or to look through the files available, have to look at lists from drop-down menus, or have to click many times to change from different pages. There is a lot of material at this site, and it's cumbersome to try to glance through the different video and photoset files.
-Need a fast ISP connection to play the streaming videos, otherwise the streams will frequently stutter and stop.
-A few good-sized thumbnails to show what the models look like in each video would be very helpful.
-A simple listing of the models appearing in each video would be helpful. Many models in videos are not named.
Bottom Line:
Viewing options:
Download options: high and low resolution.
Streaming options: high and low quality.
Other options: trailer or screen capture.
Frame width by height: 720x480
Total bitrate: 2128 kbps
Quality of the video depends on whether the video is the high quality or the low quality option. Also depends on how long ago the video was shot.
The more recent videos are higher quality.
High quality streaming is not high quality. It is higher quality than the low quality, but it is nowhere near what some sites have as high quality.
These are professionally shot videos, but the overall quality could be much better in many ways.
One example: I am watching a scene where Rocco and a second man are both on a woman. In parts of the scene, you are seeing the action through a large block of clear plastic or glass. You want to see what's happening, without having a block of plastic obscuring the action. Remove the plastic, or shoot from a different angle. This is not the camera-man trying to be artistic, it's just the camera-man being lazy or stupid and
not bothering to shoot from an angle that clearly shows the action.
Site content:
You have a lot of vintage porn (101 videos) and even more straight recent
porn (892 videos). The vintage porn tries to add a little story-line to the sex, maybe even have some costumes. It's basically sex, with a little
story that is a negligible attempt to add some flavor or meaning to the sex.
The more recent porn also has a tiny story-line, but it's really just straight sex. The actors follow a script that is mainly fucking and
sucking, with little conversation (the female models probably don't understand much English, and English is what appears to be used to
communicate in the videos). Minor roughness and humiliation to the sex, but not a lot of hard-core roughness or hard-core humiliation. Most scenes are group-type sex, where you have 3 or more people fucking. Cunnilingus, bj, vaginal and anal sex in almost all scenes. No homo-erotic action of boy+boy. You do get boy+girl, 2 boys+girl, 2 girls+boy, or more than 3 people). Some girl+girl action in some of the scenes, but the main emphasis is on the boy+girl action.
I was a member of this site a year ago. At that time I found some videos that I thought were really good. But I can't find those videos now. If the videos are still at the site, I can't find them because of the poor navigation.
There is a large amount of video content, and the videos are split into series where the type of sexual action is changed from one series to
another. The models are mainly Eastern European females. Rocco Siffredi is the star of the site, he's featured in most videos, and he can become annoying at times with his heavily accented English and overly boyish charm.
The quality of the videos is OK to good, not great. The large amount of content, and the wide variety of content means there is plenty of material to search through.
The site contents is small. Someone with a fast connection can download the entire site in 1 or 2 days. Anyone with faster than dialup can download the entire site in 30 days with no problem.
The last update is dated July 26. So if you do subscribe, there is no reason to go beyond a 30 day membership.
TBP says the site was launched in June 2010. The next month, July, they had already stopped updating the site. A real shame. I guess they ran out of money.
It can make a difference which site you use to join. At one site, you get membership to 3 of the network sites, and you pay a higher price than you do when you join through the spunky bee site.
Joining through the spunky bee site, gives you access to 10 sites, plus the lowest price for the membership.
Sometimes there can be a big difference in which site you use to join a network.
At 10 Kb/s, a single high quality video clip could easily take 10 to 15 hours to download. Are you sure the download speed is that slow? When I had dialup, my download speed was usually between 1 and 4 Kb/s, but that was dialup. I could never go back to those speeds if I wanted to download photosets or video clips. It would drive me crazy.
There are more than enough hardcore pornstars. What we really need are more cute and adorable softcore models. And some competent photographers that will present them in attractive and innovative ways. But without too much photoshopping or colorized skin tones or overly artsy styles.
Playboy and Penthouse back in the 1970s had some of the best models they ever had, and many of them were presented in a lovely way, even if the girls were photoshopped a little too much.
Thanks for the information, Drooler. I didn't know you were still a current member.
There are a few models at Rigin that I really like. But I will pass on the site, because I just don't have the patience to manually copy each photo from a set. I did manual copying years ago at some sites with no zips, but no more.
Any comments/opinions on whether the site is worth joining if there are no zips? There are some nice models, but the work of downloading the individual photos is not attractive.
Zip files were removed from the site back in 2008 (mentioned in December 2008 comment by Drooler).
Zip files were still not available Nov 2009 (mentioned in TBP review).
I don't have a lot of patience. And it seems like it would take a lot of work and time and patience to download the photosets as individual photos because there are no zip files available.
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