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Both PinkPanther and pat362 are right. Streamate.com's "private" is referred at other cam sites as "group" since any number of user may join and chat with the model. It's easy to tell when a model is in exclusive because you don't get the option to join her current "private".

Things get complicated when you throw in the flat rate "gold shows" in the mix. If you have the time and courage, you may try reading my "Taxonomy of a Host's Online Status" comment further down at the Streamate.com comments section here on PU.

As to what models prefer, I've seen all kinds of situations at Streamate.com: models who don't even know that the exclusive option exists and also models who set the exact same price for private and exclusive to encourage 1 on 1. When I asked a model who set the private 1 cent cheaper than the exclusive, she said she did so because she couldn't cope with the multiple requests at the same time that come from a non-exclusive chat and preferred giving attention to just one member.


05-02-12  11:57am

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Maybe Streamate.com tried to charge something on your card and your bank didn't allow it? If I remember correctly, they were sending me an email whenever a charge was made on my card. Check your spam folder in case there's an email with further info there.

01-07-12  02:39am

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Thanks indeed for the long reply and the model's perspective on the show type and her options. My comment was written about the time they launched it but, despite my initial disapproval, ended up joining a couple Gold Shows ever since.

I used to like having 1 on 1 with pornstars and Streamate is probably the site with the most pornstars. For the time being, at least. It's frustrating to only have the option to get Gold Shows from them now. I've ended up removing most of my favorites and canceling the SMS alerts. Haven't spent on Streamate in a long while.


09-22-11  03:19pm

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I used the term clone site in the sense those sites are mere re-brandings of Streamate.com. If you check It's Live, iCamz Live, Cam Crush or Live Freaks pages here you'll notice there's a big "site clone notice" at the top. Those are just 4 of the 50+.

There are probably better ways to track referrals than to use a different domain. As a user, I was confused at first with models talking on the net about cammodels and Streamate.com indistinctly.


06-20-11  12:12pm

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Party Chat

Streamate.com recently launched a new show type called “Party Chat”. It’s a new way to do group shows for a very low price (around 1 USD per minute) while the regular group chats aka private usually cost much more, up to 4-5 USD for popular models and porn stars testing the new feature.

Models who are in this mode have a yellow “Party Chat” next to their pictures in listings instead of the usual green “Online” status. If they are trying to set one up, you see two counters superimposed on the feed in their free chat room: a raised “gold” counter towards a goal and a time countdown to reach that goal. Users willing to attend Party Chat are asked to reserve a spot in it by sending a certain amount of gold, 10-15 gold in the ones I’ve seen (10-15 USD). If enough members send gold and goal is reached before time ends, show starts automatically; allegedly, if a show doesn’t start because the gold goal is not reached in time, you don’t get charged. I believe once the show starts, you may still enter it but at the initial price and getting only what’s remaining of it.

I attended just one. It was impossible to have your requests heard during the show. The usual button to hide other members’ words and show yours only to the model does not work: you see everything people type. But the model in my chat did not acknowledge anything the 40+ guys in the room were saying. Given the recurring appearance of recordings passing as live free chats, I couldn’t help but think that I was watching a recorded show.

Another bummer was that, as usual at this site, there’s no counter of elapsed or remaining time during a show. Needless to say, time was up when model was at the height of her performance: cam feed and audio were abruptly replaced by an unannounced, mood-killer black screen. Guess model didn’t have any clue about time either.

There’s no option to rate party chat shows at the end which, given the circumstances, makes sense as it would likely make most models’ ratings plummet.

Follow-Up - 09-22-11:

Shortly after the initial Party Chat launch, they changed the name into "Gold Show". To confuse matters further, models may still appear nowadays with a green "Party Chat" sign but, afaik, this just means they are in the usual "private" mode where multiple users may join.

06-19-11  02:37am

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Reply of nadiencendia's Reply

Thanks for the tip. It's not as slow as actually entering the room and you get the benefit of not being banned by a trigger-happy model but I find it has a extremely slow response time compared to other cam sites' similar functionality.

It's also worth stressing that this feature only seems to be available at Streamate.com and not at its various clones. Since most models actively promote their cammodels subdomain, this feature is likely lost by many users.


03-24-11  12:43pm

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Taxonomy of a Host's Online Status

When a host is online at Streamate, an “online” text appears in her picture in listings but you have to go to the host’s page in order to know whether she’s in free chat, private or exclusive.

Each of these 3 statuses has further subdivisions, the trickiest one being the private status. When a host is in private, you don’t get a cam feed but a black screen informing that you have to pay to see the host. Not all private statuses are born equal and there may be various outcomes after you enter the room:
- Someone took her private while she was in free chat. Anyone may join but host may pay more attention to the first user that took her private.
- In private but no one is watching. The host may be doing a show hoping people will join. She may have just ended an exclusive chat and is still nude. Maybe she just doesn’t want to appear in free chat.
- Doing a chat with members of her site. Streamate offers hosts a widget to place at their sites for hosting member chats. If you are a member of a model/pornstar's site who is a host here, you get the whole show as part of your membership at no additional fee as long as you enter the show via the widget but, if you enter that same show at Streamate, you are charged a per minute rate. I feel this is the trickiest situation.
- Filming a scene for a site: you are allowed to watch a porn shooting but no one reads what you type. Barrett Blade’s Massage Parlor sites or Mean Bitches are two that come to mind. Also, some porn stars use this when shooting for their own sites.
- In “voyeur” mode, so host won’t interact. Hard to mistake because there are few and usually have the “Voyeur” word in their name or are described accordingly in the cam’s page.
- Doing a show for a flat fee. This is very rare and I’ve only seen it in a cam called “Pornstar Cam House”. You are only informed that that private is at a flat fee when you click on the button that usually displays the private and exclusive rates. Otherwise, you think it’s the usual per-minute rate show.

The good thing is that you are not charged for leaving a private chat immediately after joining. If things don’t look good in the first 5-10 seconds, hit the Exit button.

Free chat also has some substatuses:
- Free chat and expecting members to take her private / exclusive. You see her live on cam for free as long as she stays in free mode. There’s no nudity allowed but she may flash her tits if someone sends her gold (credits).
- Free chat and not willing to enter private. You may even get blocked if you try to because she just wants to talk with viewers.
- Free chat and away from cam. She may or may not leave a Be Right Back sign but it’s a bit silly to take her private if she’s not there.

There’s no mistaking in exclusive: you get a short page saying another member has abducted her and you’d better go look somewhere else. In that case, other sites automatically send you back to free chat as soon as the host leaves exclusive. I believe it’s not the case here.

02-27-11  10:42am

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85.0
Status: Current Member for over 6 months (at the time of review).
Pros: - Lots of exclusive US hosts. Popular among US porn stars.
- 100s of the usual non-US hosts that may be found at other sites.
- Site is geared at facilitating chats: little more than chats is offered.
- You may mute other chat users and send your requests only to host.
- Most hosts I tried offer sound even in free chat.
- Pay chats may be private (group) or exclusive (1 on 1, full privacy).
- SMS alerts at no additional cost. Also, favorites RSS feeds.
- Negative reviews of performers are not censored.
- Not charged for peeking into a private show for a few seconds.
- Excellent log of money spent: in-site and by email.
- Billed by epoch. No regional pricing.
- No silly contests among members or among hosts.
- Additional membership to access weekly show plus its archive.
- Additional fan clubs (“Goldclubs”) for HQ videos and photos of a host.
Cons: - Prices higher than at other sites (both US and non-exclusive).
- Non-exclusive hosts have higher cam quality at other sites.
- No info on how much time you’ve been in current private.
- No alert when you are nearing daily limit while in private.
- Sorting options are easily lost while browsing.
- Almost no means to share experiences with fellow members.
- Hosts rarely honor the schedule on their profile.
- Sample photos of hosts are at very low quality.
- On a host’s profile, suggested similar hosts are never online.
- Occasionally, you find recorded shows passing as live ones.
- No clear taxonomy of online states: must enter host profile and guess a little to see how much “online” she is (see separate comment on the subject).
- Too many clone sites. What’s the difference with Cammodels?
Bottom Line: While some cam sites resemble a police state obsessed with milking every bit of interaction between you and the hosts and others are an anarchy full of amateur designs, emoticons and explicit sex in free chat, Streamate.com makes some sort of compromise.

You won’t see anything below the waist in free chat and contacting a host outside the site isn’t encouraged but they don’t charge you for simple things like sending an in-site message to a host and many hosts have twitter accounts. Hosts who have a site of their own often plug it while in free chat or even in their profile page.

I have a love-hate relationship with the site’s interface. On every chat window, there’s a button that mutes all other users and has your words only seen by hosts. Good both for blocking the peanut gallery and for privacy although the icon isn’t exactly easy to understand. Also, you don’t need to leave free chat to check host’s prices. On the other hand I found many issues in listings. I never manage to keep hosts sorted the way I’d like and I feel the fact that a host appears as “online” regardless of “how much online” she really is deserved a comment of its own here.

This site, and mainly its clone site Cammodels, are currently very popular among US porn stars. One of the reasons could be that Streamate offers a chat widget that may be embedded at the members area of a site and host member chats accessible at the same time via Streamate. It’s not unusual to find 10-15 fairly well known stars online at a given time, even at Europe-friendly hours.

Regarding private chats, they have a great log of all your past activities in the last 3 months: minutes and seconds spent with each host and on which day. Unfortunately, you don’t get much info while in private. Not knowing how much time you’ve been in your current private session is not unusual at other sites but they should at least tell you that you are about to hit your daily limit so you may properly end the session.

I find confusing the overabundance of clone sites that work the exact same way. US porn stars and hosts always post links to Cammodels, not Streamate.com. I would suggest anyone interested to join through Streamate.com and not a clone because Streamate.com offers registered users a preview of a host’s free chat when you place your mouse over her picture on a listing. None of the clone sites seems to offer it.

02-27-11  10:36am

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Reply of lk2fireone's Comment

I suppose you're aware that TBP has numerical data from 09/2008 and info on video resolutions (74 photo shoots and 40 videos).

I'm not a member but all the Last-Modified headers for image updates on the home page are from the same date on 11/2008. It doesn't necessarily mean there haven't been more updates since then: it could simply happen that they haven't changed the tour for a while.

I found some samples following the webmasters link on the home page and going to the news section.


05-15-09  01:46pm

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The easiest way to know when a file on a web server was last modified is with a javascript bookmarklet. Search for "javascript lastModified bookmarklet" and you'll find it easily.

It often gets fooled because some servers send the current date but, in cases like this, it's quite handy: I cannot be a 100% sure the site hasn't updated in 6 months without joining it but, since the picture of the last update on the home page was uploaded in June 2008, I draw my own conclusions.


01-22-09  10:58am

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Needless to say the date in a huge font at the home page is not the date of the last update but today's one.

Looking at the web server headers, the update at the top goes back at least to June 2008. The site most likely hasn't updated in the last 6 months.


01-21-09  02:31pm

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That's weird. The company being Czech, one would expect it would work properly in the Czech Republic. For the record, following the Tainster link here at PU works OK for me.

05-29-10  01:42pm

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Yes, that's what I meant when I said it's confusing. My guess was they copy-pasted the info from the basic package and left by mistake the pay-per-minute, pay-as-you-go and pay-per-view part (aren't those three the exact same thing?). The full package contents lists "all eromaxx videos (stream/download)" and there's no reference to credits in the full package so that's why I assumed it's a regular membership. I could be wrong, though.

I spent some time at the Eromaxx blog but there's no real information. Neither is there any info in the FAQ. The news section has a snippet that points in the direction that Tainster is Orgy Max 2.0: "We've taken the old network and given it not only a full facelift, but we've also added so many features and pimped out the technology in such a way to make Tainster the new leader in online adult entertainment"

Who knows :)


05-29-10  01:41pm

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Orgy Max 2.0

This site seems to offer the same content as Orgy Max albeit much better organized: true model profiles to begin with. They also pair it with some sort of social network of their own and more HD webcam shows than before.

Two membership packages are available, one is a credit type package where you get VOD-only credits for little more than a couple videos and some webcam minutes and a full access one (unlimited downloads) at the regular 29.95 EUR Orgy Max price. I found it a bit confusing: the full package doesn't seem to be different from the old Orgy Max site but offering a credit-based package and an unlimited one at the same site is a bit uncommon.

I saw a post at the Orgy Max official blog where they said they were transferring Orgy Max user accounts to Tainster. When you go to Tainster, you get the chance to go to the old Orgy Max site but it's not clear what the future holds for the Orgy Max site; Tainster seems to be much better organized and it would be logical if it replaced completely Orgy Max.

05-29-10  02:25am

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Never heard of Fellucia Blow before but the previews there are limited and they don't seem to be updating. The concept seems similar to the Art of Blowjob but Camille Crimson's site seems much more interesting.

10-09-11  01:45am

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Can you point a specific update? Looking at the free section to me it seems just like there have been some changes in shooting style, hair and makeup but it's always the same model.

10-08-11  07:50am

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I wasn't familiar with The Minion's story until recently so I don't know whether any of the scenes were released previously. I did some research and I'm not sure if they will be filming more updates than the 150+ scenes that Chico Wang did. Scenes, so, are probably a couple years old. Maybe, if the site is successful enough, the guy will perform in some more scenes.

The Minion now goes by the name Doron Pepperscone and works as PA for Billy Watson (owner or director of most sites in this network). If you are interested in his story, there's a podcast interview with him at PornStar Podcast. There's also another one with Billy Watson.


09-21-08  02:36am

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Glad you ended up joining and enjoying the site. Thanks for the kind words on my review. Excellent review yourself! You cracked me up with the 91 explanation :D

10-05-12  02:35pm

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Thanks for your reply! I'm very glad that you found my review interesting and that you'll keep this site in your shortlist.

Even though the site needs (a lot of) work in terms of usability and navigation, the photos are so remarkable that I had to give it a high enough score to get it over the majority of solo sites I've reviewed in the past. In the end, it's the content what matters.

After joining The Mosh Room, I've checked free tours and samples from other sites allegedly in the alt, fetish or pin up genres but none interested me half as much. It's probably the way Mosh manages to balance varying doses of things that aren't my thing with her unique style, looks and poses what appealed and still appeals to me.


06-05-12  01:49pm

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90.0
Status: Was a member approx. 6 months prior to this review.
Pros: - Official site of Russian-born US-resident alt model Mosh.
- No tattoos, nipples pierced, hair bleached white.
- 350+ photo sets. 90% at 1200x800px. 40 images per set.
- Sets have info on photographer, designer, make up artist, venue, ...
- Lots of unusual poses. More artistic than erotic
- Latex, vintage stockings and clothing, high heels.
- 40 videos. 50% at 640x480, 25% at 320x240, 25% at 720x400 or higher.
- Lots of information on the model's live and career.
- Modeling tips section. Infrequent diary with pictures.
- 6-8 new photo sets per month.
- ccbill. No regional pricing.
Cons: - Few videos and at very low resolution.
- No zip files. Photos open in a page of their own.
- Sets are only grouped by year of release. No categories.
- Content engine needs a makeover.
- Smallish pictures.
- Interaction limited to email. No member chats, phased out forum.
- Site is somewhat slow. Downloading and browsing.
- Hard to read the texts: center justified and tiny font.
Bottom Line: I believe there is a big gap between alt modeling and my tastes. Latex fetish, stockings, garters, vintage clothes, burlesque or pin up style are not my thing. The Mosh Room is the solo site of an alt model that has lots of things that are not my cup of tea and, yet, I liked this site quite a lot and I’d recommend anyone to at least take a look at the free tour.

The alt adjective doesn’t come from her body modifications: she has a very unique look but no tattoos at all and just some discrete nipple and ear piercings. She does have extremely pale skin and hair bleached white. I guess the alt adjective comes from a mix of her looks, her taste in style (pin up, vintage stockings, latex, extremely high heels) and the unusual, yet jawdropping, poses she bends herself into for pictures.

According to the very detailed about me section, Mosh trained as a gymnast since childhood. Saying merely that she is flexible would be a huge understatement. She has a perfect control of her body: every pose is different but every pose is a winner. For instance, I'm in awe of how she uses her hands, how she manages to bring something more to already extraordinary poses by the way her hands are placed and tensed. It’s difficult to put in words the uniqueness of the end results.

The photos come from many different photographers but, even though, I got the feeling that she has a lot to say on how she gets shot so all sets end up having some sort of “Mosh style”. Unfortunately, the 350+ photo sets are dumped into a single huge listing sorted by release date. Apart from adding listings for categories (latex, nude, stockings, ...) it would make a lot of sense to group or, at least, make sets searchable by the metadata that is shown when you open them: photographer, garments designer and so on.

The site has much more text pages than the usual solo site: tips, diaries, biography, faqs but interaction seems to be limited to email. She periodically posts publicly replies to emails she gets, specially when it’s other models asking for advice. Looks like there were some webcam chats at some point and also a forum of some sorts but nothing seem to be going on in that direction currently.

06-04-12  02:44pm

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79.0
Status: Was a member approx. 4 months prior to this review.
Pros: -Emphasis on side aspects of a shoot (although a bit too much so it's also a con).
-Good photography by a team that also works for Twistys or Babelicious.
-Cheap full access trial membership.
-Good site design, easy to navigate.
-Well known US adult models.
-Good way to see the person behind the adult model.
-Every model has 3 videos: teasing/masturbation (depends on model), BTS, interview.
-WMV format, 50% at 640x480 (1500kbps), 50% at 400x300 (1200kbps). 10 minutes long on average.
-Also 3 photo galleries: 1. teasing/masturbation (depends), 2. BTS, 3. candids (real life pictures).
-Picture count: 1. 150 (1200x900), 2. 50 (1200x900) 3. 20 (varies).
-Zip files available (although they also include the thumbnails !?).
Cons: -Site is no longer updating and is for sale.
-Too few models.
-Too much emphasis on the side aspects of a shoot. A bit of BTS is welcome but so much...
-Interview questions are generic and the same for all models (allegedly submitted by site members).
-Only one "action" set per girl (one photo gallery, one video).
-Too many pictures in the sets are promotional ones (holding signs or on The Real Me outfits).
-"Candids" are a joke: same photos are likely to be found without blurred faces at the models' myspace profiles.
-There's an embedded cam network; you will unintentionally sign up by just clicking on a picture.
-Cam network has no membership fees but periodically spams you with new performers.
Bottom Line: Since this site is almost certainly defunct, I encourage those curious about it to go for the trial membership and grab the content since it could be taken down at any time. No need to stay further since no updates seem to be coming. If you're really into this type of content, I encourage to try Danni.com's "Up Close & Personal with ..." series with their Danni girl of the month.

The interview part reminds a lot of the ones at Babelicious: most of the questions are repeated and the production team is also the same so it brings a certain sense of déja vu. The BTS follows the model while she's getting ready for the shoot; picking clothes, makeup, etc. Both are interesting and very rarely seen. All models are great looking but getting a glimpse of the personality can make you grow fonder of her; Karlie Montana is perhaps the best example for me. I won't say names, but it can happen the exact opposite: some model may have the looks but her personality sucks.

Regarding the sets, they have a certain flare of Twistys or Babelicious. Softcore models will just tease while hardcore ones will masturbate. The end result is more than OK but it feels short having only one set per model.

For completists, here's the full list of models: Andie Valentino, Carli Banks (2 sets), Erika Jordan, Franchezca Valentina (photos only), Georgia Jones, Jayme Langford, Karlie Montana, Lia 19, Luana Lani, Marlie Moore, Renee Perez, Shay Laren, Tiffany Brookes and Zoe Britton.

01-06-09  10:47am

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Your review prompted me to join and I really liked what I saw. I haven't had time to watch all the content but so far, so good. For a trial membership, it's a real bargain if you like this type of content.

I was prompted to research around the site and the sad thing is that the site is for sale. I came across a webmaster message board where the owner of the site said he was listening to offers. I doubt that there will be any updates in the meantime. If the site is sold, it's unclear whether the new owners will be able to keep up with the quality of the first 14 updates.


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I'm not currently a member but was some time ago of this and the other two bonus sites: Black Ice Pass and Zero Tolerance on Demand. My impression then and now, after checking the free tour, is that they release full DVDs at most a month after they hit the streets and all but compilations end up being available.

You may check for yourself. Go to Adult DVD Empire, choose DVD tab at the top and look for Third Degree Films sutdio at the bottom right. Comparing the Release date sorting at Adult DVD Empire and at Third Movies, it looks like the 3 most recent non-Compilation physical DVDs still haven't been released at Third Movies but all others on the first page are already fully available at Third Movies.

Answering your other question, Third Movies' free tour hints they are releasing full DVDs and they were doing so back when I was a member but checking bonus site Zero Tolerance On Demand's free tour, it looks like they are releasing the various scenes in a DVD on different days.


02-09-11  11:30am

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I think you meant NA instead of RK :)

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Some perspective

The Torrente character (without the triple X) is the central character from a Spanish movie comedy trilogy. Two of the titles are in the top ten all time box office of Spanish movies.

Torrente is a former cop who is fascist, racist, misoginistic and gross beyond anything you can imagine. Santiago Segura, director of the mainstream trilogy and who also plays the Torrente part, claims that the Torrente character is everything he hates about his country.

Torente XXX scenes seem to come from the DVD series by the same name. It is, in fact, a rare case of porn spoof approved by the author of the original movie: Santiago Segura makes a short introduction on the XXX movies. Torbe also appears in the last couple of mainstream Torrente movies.

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