You can sign up on Innocent High through Epoch. On the sign-up page, you click "Backup credit card" and it is Epoch. The cross sales are all gone and you even get a discounted price offer to stay when canceling of $14.95/month.
No, I see this as an insecurity/control issue. I would think you are having sex with them so they aren't a saint when it comes to sex. Most women I dated, before getting married, liked porn as long as I could convince them I wasn't going to run and tell everyone they liked porn or think of them any differently.
I had the same thing happen with the "You won't be charged at this time" part, but haven't been charged anymore. I took it that the receipt was verifying your account in case you wanted to buy credits to see the private shows. I thought the shows were free, but backed out as soon as I seen the "go private" button. I'll keep an eye on my account. The email I received was on February 28th, so no charges or receipts for more charges since then. I also did the Epoch ID number look up and it doesn't show as active for the cam account.
I seem to be in the minority on this one too. I like it better when they start with hardcore then go softer. It's a whole mental thing for me. Especially when the model was not very enthused with hardcore like Eve, Sophie, Sandra and Anetta Keys. It gives me that snobby/too good attitude from them that I like. You watch their solos and can convince yourself they are wanting to show you that hardcore side with a tease. Especially true for Eve, though her newer solo videos haven't been that great, by her standards.
I still haven't tried it out, but have been meaning to. One thing I wanted to mention is that Zoliboy is one of the original 21st Sextury sites. The newer content is a bit extreme for my taste, but the older 2004-early 2007 is some of the best content they have on the network. The older content plays to him being a real porn assistant. He then uses his charm to get the models to perform for him. Most of the girls really seem to like him and have some big orgasms for him. There is some peeing even in the older content, but most of it is shower, lotion/oil rub down, then masturbation. Admittedly, I am a little biased since 2 of my top 10 Eve Angel videos come from Zoliboy. Both are in 2004-2005, Eve was much more innocent back then. He has her talking in English, very rare for back then and telling him, "You like when the girls do it for themselves while you watch?" Complete with a very genuine smile from her. If nothing else, check out her videos and Anetta Keyes. It is all exclusive and I think was the 3rd 21st Sextury site behind Club Sandy and P&V.
Oh and how is the Blue Angel site? I didn't even know the site existed. Does it have much content? Nice review, they had a poll up last year about bigger pictures. I had thought the bigger ones were coming. Seems like the poll leader was for 2000 long end.
From the ones I have downloaded, including the newest updates, the long end is still only 1050. They do have huge sets though, one had over 300 photos in it.
I don't know if I answered right or not. I originally put WTF is.., then switched it to yes. Though I'm still not for sure cuckold is really what I've looked into or have fantasized about myself.
I've always had this strange, maybe sick fantasy of walking in unknowingly to find my wife with another man. Keep in mind, as a teenager, aggression and violence was as much of a turn on to me as naked women. As I've mellowed out, I do still have the fantasy with my wife, except now the guy survives my wrath.
The main turn-on for me is that my wife has a great body, especially below the waist, like most Latina women do. I've often wondered what her butt would look like from the porn view of behind her while she is riding a man. That may be the part some haven't thought about. We're all porn fans and love watching beautiful female bodies in action.
My wife seems to enjoy it since it makes me more aggressive with her. Anyway, she acts like Eve Angel and Rebecca Linares for me!
Just a note, when I reviewed the site, they were not doing this whole new network interface they have now. From what Denner has said, that is when the problems resurfaced.
I checked on this, the three newest updates showing up for me are, Breanna Benson, Melanie Jane and Misty Stone.
On those three you mentioned, the release dates in the membership section are:
Dakoda: 1-8-08
Bree: 1-22-07
Kinzie: 7-31-06
The Innocent High site itself seems to be very well maintained with a update list by date or alphabetical. The other sites in the network are pretty much listed in order of release, but none of those have that many updates to begin with. Also of note, if you like these models that are on Innocent High, most of them also have a set on Solo Interviews as well. Hope that helps
The updates on Innocent High are all dated. The other sites are not and that is why I had some trouble figuring out their update schedule. What it does show though are the sites that are still updating. It's kind of a strange way they do it, one minute clips on Monday, photos/screencaps on Tuesday and full scene on Wednesday. They do have a nice "update" section that shows each update as they are coming in. I'm still hesitant about anything more than a month. The archives are good enough for the 1 month deal though.
My download speeds varied a little from site to site, but none were bad. I received my average or higher on all of them. Probably wouldn't help much to tell the numbers since we may not have the same speed, but here those are.
My average download speed since adding the current connection is 2.7 M/sec. So, you can see that my average on the Orgy Max sites were a little above my average speed that I usually receive. I would guess this could change depending on your location, but I am satisfied with the speed. That new price is a great deal.
Looks like 21st Sextury just released a new lower price through TBP.
The Zoli sets are old. It was back before Zoli's site became more of a fetish site. Which one of the Eve ones is pissing, actually two are, one outside and one in the bathtub. The others include a fisting scene where she is fisted by Pochahontes, not really my thing either. The other ones include a great public dressing room scene where Zoli and Eve go shopping. They are in a mall packed with people. Eve finds a little lingerie outfit she likes. Completely real in this part as Eve tries to find a dressing room that isn't occupied. Zoli slips in the dressing room with her and films her changing clothes. She seems to enjoy it. Really, I think she had a crush on Zoli or at least was attracted to him. She really plays to the camera in these and smiles a lot.
There are two masturbation sets. Both indoors, one is standard Eve masturbation, very believable. The other though, starts as a shower scene. She rubs lotion all over herself in the bed and gives one of her best solo performances. This is topped off after having two orgasms without stopping, Zoli reaches towards her with a little pen vibrator. She lets him use it on her clit while she is using a dildo. Another orgasm. Less than a minute later, she has put the dildo down and is just letting him use the vibrator and has a 4th orgasm. Easily one of my top 3 favorite videos of her. Agree, Eve wasn't made for hardcore. She seems to be more into the seduction/sensual parts than just having sex.
Sorry about the delay. Eve seems to go through phases where she gains weight. I think she does a lot of shooting at one time, say for 3 months straight, then doesn't shoot anything new for a few months. The few months off seems to lead to a weight gain. She has a few old sets on Zoliboy where she was bigger than I've ever seen her. Zoli even mentions in the heading, "She has put on some weight". I believe those sets were in 2004 or so. I do notice that she has put on weight in the newer DDF sets. The good thing for me, her hips and butt are my favorites part below her head, so I like when those get a little meat on them.
For me, I think my biggest attraction to her is her eyes, lips and hair. She uses all three to be about as seductive as any woman I've seen. Having said that, I haven't been completely happy with the newer videos of her on any sites. I don't know if you've noticed, but she almost always lays on her side to reach orgasm. That's not the best view for us watching it. I've always liked her orgasms either with her legs spread eagle or up in doggystyle. I had noticed this on the old Eve site, around 70% of those in the last year of that site, ended with her on her side. If you have a membership to 21st Sextury, be sure to check out her strap-on scene with Sophie Moone on Sweet Sophie Moone. That is probably the best I've ever seen her butt look, she rides the strap-on Sophie is wearing.
I hate to admit it, but I'll probably be watching Eve as long as she keeps going!
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- A once very expensive network that has lowered its price to a very good level, used to be 35 Euros to join, so it was around $50 for U.S. members. Now is $24.95.
- Has 3 major sites, Party Hardcore, Mad Sex Party and Drunk Sex Orgy plus 14 other niche heavy sites like Fully Clothed Sex and Fully Clothed Pissing.
- Newer videos are 1280x720 with 5000 bitrates. Each update also has zipped photos.
- Some of these orgies have probably close to 100 people in them.
- Updates weekly on each of the sites that I've tried out.
- Most of the sites have in excess of 200 sets of videos/photos.
- I haven't had any blazing download speeds, but am hitting my average.
- A different view of porn. You're going to see some women that may be a little bigger, a little less hot as you are used to and nearly every video has at least one that really stands out. This can be a con as well.
Cons:
- Things get a bit hectic at times, usually right when you've spotted the hottest woman at the party bent across a bar. Camera cuts to the women you wished was hiding behind the bar.
- Though Party Hardcore is going for the authentic feel, the damn music gets on my nerves. In one scene, really hot girl getting hammered and the old classic song, "Big Girls Don't Cry" is blasting in the background.
- If not careful, you'll find yourself fast forwarding a lot, rewinding a lot and trying to tell people to move out of the way.
Bottom Line:
Party Hardcore to me is the flagship site here. I think women like the site. My wife does and was the one who got me to join a few years ago for nearly $50, the price cutback is 50% off to $25.
The basic story of Party Hardcore is a group of women rent this club, male strippers come out, dance around and tease the women until the women lose control and an all-out orgy breaks out. It's different, at times, very frustrating, at times very good. The other two named in the pros work similar. Drunken party turns into orgy. If nothing else, I want to say this is probably the best orgy content I've seen. It's still frustrating, but if you're into the voyeur/exhibitionist side of porn, this could be your holy grail.
One complaint my wife had with it is that the guys are not really much more than average size. I'll defend the guys by saying they each seem to get a couple women off in each video.
The other sites add a whole new dimension. There is one, Tyrannized, that is some pretty extreme content. Women dominating men, spanking, violent spanking until the man's butt cheeks bleed. Not my thing, don't want to give my wife any ideas! All WAM is a fun site, I had to look up the definition the last time we were on this network. It means Wet And Messy, you get some oil wrestling, some food fighting, just anything to make a mess with naked women. It's different and kind of goofy. I will say it is fun to watch.
I like the Fully Clothed Sex, I think all of us remember the days of trying to get a little in high school and sliding the panties/shorts over. Not into pissing content, Fully Clothed Pissing, but have to say models pissing with jeans on is interesting if nothing else. There are two other pissing sites as well, so if you're into that, there is more value. There are three cum sites, including a Transexual one. As you can see, there is a lot of coverage here.
The network itself works as good as any network I've been on. All sites are listed at the top of the page and require only a click to switch from site to site. For me, the value was the 3 orgy sites.
Minimal complaints, as with nearly all porn sites that have been around while, the older content is better. It is not quite as high technical quality though so you're running into that technical quality or on-screen quality problem. I would drop the music and let the dozens of moans and groans fill the air. Some of the earlier ones have a more believable, not staged, feel to them. Like one of the oldest has a woman who is genuinely blushing in it, by the end, she has taken 3 cumshots. It gave the impression it really was a bachelorette party and she was the bride to be.
Probably not for the guy who doesn't like his wife/spouse going out. They used to advertise these orgy sites as, "You may see your wife or girlfriend getting plowed".
An impressive network with a much more acceptable price. Recommended highly for those into these niches or looking for something different!
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Really surprising site/network, much bigger than I had anticipated.
- You get these sites, Innocent High, Her Freshman Year, The Real Workout, Oye Loca, This Girl Sucks, Titty Attack, Solo Interviews, Euro City Life and Trailer Trash Cuties for the very good TBP price of $17.87
- Technical quality is very good, the majority of videos I have downloaded are 1280x720. Also has zipped pictures and zipped screenshots, though neither are high quality, but still a nice touch.
- Excellent download speeds for me, about 98% of download max that I've seen.
- Network navigation is pretty good. They have a main page I go through called Team Skeet, they have each of the sites listed in the sidebar. You just click them and go, no signing in for each site.
- Very good site if you like schoolgirl uniforms and/or girls who could genuinely pass as barely legal.
- Bonus sites are worth checking out though none really stand out. I like Real Workout and Oye Loca the best of those.
Cons:
- Kind of confusing when signing up. I didn't know the payment processor. So I went to alternate billing with Epoch, but received a message from the other biller to tell me I had signed up with Epoch. See, confusing!
- Went to see the bonus sites and received a full page ad that looked just like the site itself. Clicked it and realized it was an upsell. Neither of these two charged me anything extra, but it is worth mentioning as a bit of a hassle.
- Can be repetitive since the content is mostly niche-related.
Bottom Line:
I had been meaning to join this site for at least a year. They had 3 updates that I wanted to get, Micah Moore, Dakoda Brookes and the ultra-rare Cuban Gem Charity Jade (Not even saying what I would do to her, divorce court and Eve Angel would hate me!). Once inside, I realized they had a bunch more of my favorites. If you're into little Latin models and haven't seen Emy Reyes, she is worth checking out. There also are a lot of models who I have never seen before.
The action on Innocent High is mostly hardcore boy/girl, minor spank with a ruler, bend her over and teach her quantum physics. Not all sets are in classrooms, some go into tutor sessions, the stories with each are decent. Usually funny and filled with cheesy humor. If I didn't know better, I would say this site is run by one of the bigger networks like Reality Kings or Bang Bros. The action is usually good, girls are mostly all top-tier and are at least believable in their roles.
As a standalone site, I would go maybe 85-86 for Innocent High. There are roughly 260 sets, that's full video, zip photo file of 150-250 pictures and 200-300 zipped screenshots. So you can see this site alone has a large collection. From what I can see they update at least 2 times a week on this network, the past week, Valentine special, got 3 updates. The value comes in with the bonus/network sites.
The Real Workout - I'm a sucker for the hot girl in the gym working out. This site has 38 sets, video, photos.
Oye Loca - Latina/Hispanic models, hardcore. Some fairly rare models in here and one of the better all Latina/Hispanic sites I've been on. Roughly 85 models with full sets.
Solo Interviews - Masturbation, pretty good site, but I like solos. Around 75 models here with full sets.
The other sites all fit right with whatever their name is and have a combined 100 or so more sets. The sites Euro City Life and Trailer Park Cuties are in my opinion, total wastes. The videos JUST on these two are split into 30 parts! No full scenes, no pictures, so I'm not including those in the total count. I don't know anyone who is going to download 30 one minute clips.
The total for the network as a whole is roughly 500 sets, full scenes, zip photos. That is a lot of content considering it is exclusive and is niche orientated.
On the complaints, the site's navigation is pretty solid for a network. It's nice not to have to sign in on every site. I like sites that keep it simple stupid and this one does that. Just scroll down each site and see all of the updates. It's as easy as that. The upsells haven't showed since the first time I was in the member's area, so that isn't too bad.
Update schedule can be confusing. They call the girls, "students" on all of the sites so from what I can see, the updates are around 3 per week for the whole network.
Recommended for one month/once a year, I've downloaded around 150 scenes I intend to keep. Be sure to check out Charity and Emy if you're on there.
I use a similar way as GCode, except I use Jarte. I started doing that back in the earlier years of PU when we had a much smaller character limit and I kept running over on all of them. With me, I tend to join sites that have TBP discounts and at one time would have 5-6 active memberships going at a time. I've slowed down a lot now, or the sites I'm joining are ones I've already reviewed. Have a couple to post tonight.
I guess in a way I'm a little harder on the sites I score so high with my updates and revisions, but I am glad it is helpful to others. Similar to how I was telling Monahan, I'm sure DDF will get everything worked out in the future, but right now it is a bit of a mess. I've been meaning to try the 21st Sextury network out again and see how things are going. May do that this weekend.
The DL speed seemed to tail off for me in the daytime PST (-8:00). At night, it would nearly hit my max download speed, then about 300 times slower in the day.
I agree about the DDF Prod saying the best scenes, but that makes me then question what the point of the site is. It also isn't very accurate. There are links beside the models names as having content on one of their sites. Then you go to the site and the model has no content on it. But on DDF Prod, they will have one of her best scenes listed as coming from the site. The one that comes right to my mind is Aneta Keys, she is listed as having content on Only Blowjob. If you go to the site itself there are no clips of her. But on DDF Prod it has a blowjob clip of her and it's listed as coming from Only Blowjob.
It reminds of the old saying of "Don't over-complicate something for the sake of complicating it"! They have a good staff over there. Hopefully, they'll get it worked out.
It became kind of frustrating after awhile. All the DDF Prod site does for me is make it more of a hassle. You have to click for models on DDF Prod, click on the model, see what all sites she has content on, then go to each site, click on the model, then download. That's about 5 more clicks than I want to make!
Hey slutty, I don't know what has happened to Viv. He had also been promising higher resolution pictures, but those haven't happened either. Still, like you, the quality of the action on the screen seems to outweigh the need for the highest technical quality of the videos. I wish he would update more too. Considering how much porn he has filmed, he has to have a few thousand clips laying around!
I've become even happier with the Vivid premium channel as the membership goes on. I'm finding models I had forgotten about like Melissa Hill. The way I'm looking at it is I might join it once a year, maybe twice if an update stands out to me. So far, I've downloaded 27 GB from the Vivid channel, only 7 GB from Videobox, so it has been a good value for me. A lot of those 90s clips are in better quality here than I've ever seen them with standard DVD 640-720 high end resolution and bitrates in the 5000 range. A few still look a little dated, poor lighting/color, but I don't guess they can fix that since it is that way in the originals. Overall though, I expect to have around 50 GB just from the Vivid channel. You also don't see as much of the current nonsense in the hardcore clips, not much slapping, no spitting and probably less than half of the hardcore scenes end with facials. I'm not a fan of facials, so that was a plus too.
I stopped following this story when it interrupted a football game I was watching. I can't say I've seen any of the women. The media is killing all sports for me. All the talk of morals and how athletes are held to higher standards than others...because they make more money, is just as disgusting as the scandal. It's as if the general public doesn't realize they are saying the rich should be the best people.
I decided to take the plunge and add the Vivid channel. Two reasons, Taylor Hayes classic scenes and Where the Boys Aren't #1. I consider #1 in the Where the Boys Aren't series to be one of the best lesbian DVDs I've seen. Taylor Hayes was one of the prettiest and dirtiest stars I remember from the 90s, early 2000s. Oh and they have around 20 scenes of Taylor so that combined with the lesbian DVD would be worth the extra $18.
Once inside the Vivid section, I found there are over 200 Vivid DVDs on it and am downloading to keep. Here are some surprising (to me) finds in those DVDs.
Kayden Kross - Beautiful solo model was how I knew her. She has 14 hardcore scenes on the Vivid channel.
Raylene (90s) - One of the greatest natural bodies in porn history, highly underrated, has 7 scenes.
Meggan Malone - I only knew of her work on ALS sites, she has 20 scenes on the channel, including hardcore.
Mimi Miyagi - 3 scenes, retired back around 2000, ran for Nevada governor in 2006. The scenes here show the 90s Mimi when she could put her stomach on the bed and her butt pointed nearly straight up in the air. Amazing back arch and bubble butt for a tiny Filipina model.
There are plenty more but those are the ones that have jumped out at me so far. I'm wondering why there isn't more Sky Lopez. I know she is all weird now, but she was one of the best Vivid girls. I remember having a lesbian clip between her and Raylene that required you to have 4 eyes to watch both of them at the same time. I can't say I will join the Vivid channel each time I join Videobox, but I will be keeping an eye on it. I wouldn't mind to see more of those late 90s Vivid DVDs make their way onto the channel.
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