Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Interesting site that pushes the limits on high quality.
- Much to my surprise there are some big Euro stars on here including one of my favorites Simony Diamond who is in multiple "games" or scenes and was the biggest reason I joined.
- The limit pushing video quality has 12,000+ bitrates with 1920x1080 resolution videos. I believe that is probably the top quality in the industry as of right now.
- The games are fun to watch. I've seen a few other sites try doing storylines like these, but not as good and not in all their scenes.
- Each game/set also has zipped pictures.
- I'm getting good DL speeds around 90% my DL speed max.
- Webmaster/staff seems to listen and take requests (reasonable ones) into consideration.
Cons:
- I don't mind the subtitles at all, but some probably will.
- They will most likely be walking a fine line by having major stars on the site with hardly heard of stars. As it seems 50% of porn fans want the established stars, the other 50% wants lesser known stars. I would wonder if this niche is harder to book since so many Euro models are not into talking during their shoots.
- Hate to say it, but as much as I appreciate the hard work put into these videos, I still found myself skipping the game parts once I had watched them once.
Bottom Line:
This is a site that leaves me feeling torn. It may very well show the real divide in porn fans. We want highly original porn and this site does that very well, but their amount of content is small and with just 1 full game update per week, it is growing but not that fast. By the end of the 2010 year they'll have roughly 60 games/sets up. It won't be enough for many porn fans. You can even look ahead and see that at their current pace they won't reach 200 sets until the year 2013. The torn part comes into play since you can tell they put a lot of work into the site, into the production of the video, the quality of the videos and in the believability.
You'll be hard-pressed to find a complaint with the technical quality. In that sense, the site reminds me of one of my all-time favorite niche/high quality sites Give Me Pink. Sadly enough, Give Me Pink just didn't have enough support despite their then industry leading technological quality. Hopefully the word will get off enough to support this site and support the originality they promote with their games.
I haven't experienced any slow periods in download speeds, but I have been downloading just 2 sets/video/pictures per day.
I am glad that they're going to start working more American models in. I prefer Euro models, but I think by adding American models they will be able to bring in a whole new group of members who may not have joined with most of the videos not being in English. Simony Diamond really stars (shines?) in the games she is in. She's one of those Euro models who probably coulda, shoulda been a fashion model or actress in mainstream movies and it shows. I'm not usually noticing the male models, but they have some of the best known male talent in Europe with Thomas Stone and Frank Gunn.
Everything here is of the highest quality, original, technically, excellent performers, then there is the but and it's a big one, you end up wanting more. I would imagine they could add maybe a leased DVD section, but that would bring as many complaints as compliments and we're back to being torn.
Their forum/message board is fun to look over and read as are the comments members leave. One of the future sets will have a member present at the shoot, which is a really nice touch. There are just so many things they are doing right that leads me to giving them an 87 despite the small size. I can't imagine deleting any of the scenes from my hard drive so maybe that's a new pro/con to think about "percent of content kept". This is going to be a 100% one. I think if you're looking for something different, original, somewhat funny, then you'll like this site. Though I think my own shallow-mindedness shows when reviewing this site since I admit Simony is the big draw for me even over the originality.
I'm still going to recommend this site since you could do much worse. It's almost like a Behind the Scenes shoot of models playing a game that turns into an orgy. Recommended.
Current Member for over 2 months (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Huge network that covers most niches with 100% exclusive content.
- DL Limits that used to hold this network back seem to be completely gone. Will give details in BL.
- No less than 8 of the sites on this network could stand on their own. Personal favorites are: 8th St. Latinas, Mike in Brazil, Money Talks and Mike's Apartment.
- Video quality on vast majority of videos is 720 high end.
- Pictures for every video come zipped, two types, HQ photos that are not screenshots and a separate screenshot zipped folder as well. Not all sets have both though.
- Download speeds reach the 90% range of my top DL speed.
- Signing up though TBP then clicking back-up credit card processor provides billing through Epoch with the great $18 price.
- They have as racially diverse selection of models as any site I've been on with their only weakness being in the Asian category.
- Big butt, big boobs, little boobs, little butts, lesbian, MILF, public, Latina, black, interracial, gangbang, etc...
Cons:
- This one doesn't bother me much, but the HD videos they advertise aren't quite HD and only available as stream.
- Wish they would at least put the old videos files into one scene. Several of their best scenes are available only in 3 parts. This is a very small percentage around 10% at most.
- Just not a lot to find in the cons outside of subjectivity now that they don't seem to be enforcing their DL Limits.
Bottom Line:
I remember back when Reality Kings sites had a 1 GB DL limit per day per site. That went up to 10 GB then it became one that I believe was 15 full scenes per day. Here are a few numbers from the last month.
Most downloaded in one day: 83 GB
Most content from one site: 8th St. Latina 468 GB
Total downloaded in a 1 month period: 1.2 TB
No DL limits on any of those. It's easy to group RK with the other networks, but I look at it as more of a DVD site with pictures and screenshots available in zips. It's funny how perception can change the way this network is looked at. How many DVD sites are there that have 100% exclusive content, multiple daily updates, zipped photos and screenshots for $18?
The content gives you a nice variety as well. The MILF Hunter is as good of a late 20s to late 30s model site as there is. Money Talks is as good of a public/exhibitionist site as I've seen. The trio of 8th Street Latinas, Mike in Brazil and Saturday Night Latinas covers the Latina niche as well as any site does. Many of these Latina models are not seen on other sites and do no more than 3-4 sets in their career. Mike's Apartment could reasonably compete with any of the Euro hardcore sites and gives this network the edge over the others with a full Euro site for those who want a break from American models. We Live Together is one of the better American lesbian sites. In the VIP gives you the voyeurism/exhibitionism niche.
I just can't see anything major to complain about. The quality is comparable to the big DVD sites plus pictures and screenshots and 100% exclusivity. The only complaint that applies to me is the one about the older videos being split into parts. They have one model, Giselle2, who is one of their most popular models and has one of their most popular scenes, but it is in 3 parts. The HD part or lack thereof doesn't bother me too much since the scenes are already big. Most of the scenes on this network clock in at over 30 minutes. I've seen one video file as large as 850 MB, the accompanying photo set is 185 MB and the screenshot file is 155 MB. Making the three files over 1 GB so if you bumped it up to HD video, it would be near 2 GB for the three.
You do get cheesy plot lines in most of the scenes and after awhile you may border on being bored since most of their sites and content are based on niches. It's one of the strong points of porn, but also one of the weak points. The videographer/photographer chit chat isn't near as bad in the newer scenes than it used to be.
From doing a scan through of their models, lets go with 85% natural, 15% with implants with a +/- 5% for error. There are plenty of amateur models, esp. in their Latina sites that you won't see anywhere else. Throw in their take on the CFNM niche with CFNM Secret and I would say they have pretty much every niche covered and do a good job of each. I would like to see them add some Asian models or site, but that's minor. As highly recommended as I can go on a network.
I would be glad to give you a steer. When you post comments on a site's page, in this case Sapphic Erotica, make the comment at least about the site and not about another site that you think is better than it. You could have brought more attention to Killer Gram by posting a positive comment about their site which is a very good site and it's a shame that your post here could actually hurt Killer Gram more than help it.
I was curious to see if this site is still updating. I've always been a fan of Lana, but have never joined the site. Drooler's review is nearly 2 years old and the site facts haven't been updated in 2 years so anyone have any new information on it?
I've been closer to the 100-500 GB per week group lately as my ISP for some reason gave us a major boost in their internet package, from 10 M speed to 25 M. I've been using it to test out Reality Kings and Bang Bros download limits. I probably average about 50-75 GB a day right now.
I've never tried Muffia out, but it's worth noting on the Reality Kings billing, if you click "backup credit card processor" they now have the full month with TBP discount of $17.95 if you follow the Reality Kings link on here and the backup biller is the much more reliable and easier to deal with Epoch. For months and months the backup billing through Epoch would only have the trial option, but it's fixed now for the month join.
I had rejoined it earlier this month instead of trying the 21st Sextury Network which gives you mostly the same sites. I didn't have any problems with this site or the other exclusive sites they have. Throughout my membership, I never saw any downtime, no broken downloads, was downloading at 97-98% my max speed and the navigation is probably less of an issue for me since I've been a member on this site for years.
My only guess on the negative comments/cons that I've seen lately come from the non-exclusive bonus sites, which in my opinion, 21st Sextury should just drop altogether. I would be happy to pay $19.95 a month just for Club Sandy and Pix and Video. The majority of those non-exclusive sites seem to be doing nothing more than getting in the way of their excellent exclusive sites.
In my experience with the site, one of my highest rated sites, they don't string along without dates at all. They have a coming soon section that tells exactly what will be released and and on what day. I was very pleased with the site, quality, quantity, the whole site was great. The bonus content also includes much higher quality content than the average bonus sites do, including HD videos. You can check my review out, it answers most of your questions.
That is odd, it isn't coming up for me either. I'm getting the "problem loading page" message. Last time I was member, back in February, they had a couple of days of scheduled maint. Seems like it took about an hour.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Gigi Spice's solo site, comes with access to 8 other sites, including 6 exclusive solo girl sites, one non-exclusive site and the best of the bonus sites La Zona Modelos.
- Gigi's content's quality is a bit mixed, the photos max out at 1200 long end though you can get some of the same sets on Pacino's Adventures in 1600 long end quality. All sets are zipped.
- Videos all have top quality of 1280x720 with 6000+ bitrates. Also have lesser quality smaller video files available.
- Nice mixture on Gigi's content of solo, boy/girl hardcore and girl/girl
- Navigation is simple, click photo or videos and the page opens with thumbs to each set.
- Download speed is a little faster than Pacino's Adventures, reaching roughly 95% of my max DL speed.
- All content on Gigi's site is exclusive to Pacino's network.
- She's about as playful and cute as I've seen from a Latina in porn, speaks English, but usually speaks seductively in Spanish. Great video model.
Cons:
- First problem, part of these videos and picture sets are also available on Pacino's Adventures. Not just a few, but more like 33% of them. Seeing that I joined both this site and Pacino's Adventures at $30 each, it needs to be mentioned.
- As Pink Panther noted, Gigi is not the best photo model, she is great when in action and moving around, but some of her actions just don't translate well in photos like licking her lips in 5 straight shots. Probably is as much the photographer's fault since she seems very open to anything.
- Not for sure if it is really updating. The newest content is also available on Pacino's Adventures so they may just be bringing content from that site to here as new.
Bottom Line:
I want to note that I removed 5 points off the Pacino's Adventures score since one of the major draws for me was Gigi's content and I now find out it is shared with this site. I'm sure it was done to bloat the numbers of this site.
Next problem, though I didn't list it in cons, the videos, not all, but some, are parts. I didn't list in cons since these are very long videos with very high quality. Even in parts, one has 3 parts and each part is 15 minutes at 700 MB for 1 part. So as a whole it would be 45 minutes at 2.1 GB. It does reduce the number of full scenes to, estimating, 60.
The good parts, Gigi is very cute and playful. This really shows in her videos. She is dancing in one before she even realizes she is on the camera, she laughs a lot, smiles, good eye contact with the camera and then there is the dirty talk. She has the nice, sultry Spanish accent and attitude for it as well. Think of a much less annoying Rosie Perez. She is convincing that she really is getting off. There is some squirting in her videos that looks to be of the real variety. More spurt than steady stream. She giggles when she squirts as well. Some seem to even catch her off guard. She'll kind of look at the floor in front of her to make sure she squirted and smile.
The girl/girl content is good as well. She has one with another of Pacino's models where both are masturbating together. She looks to accidentally pee trying to push a squirting orgasm out and just starts cracking up. The look is one that says, "Oh well, already started peeing, might as well finish".
Her boy/girl content with Pacino is also good. There is a lot of serious kissing between them, which makes for more, good, believable videos.
I'm pretty sure the newer updates are from Pacino's Adventures. She has also showed up on a few other glam sites with implants. None of the content here has the implanted boobs. If this site was added to Pacino's Adventures as a bonus site, I would consider that the best Latina deal on the internet. As it is, knowing that 1/3 of this content is available on Pacino's Adventures, it takes away a little from both sites.
Still, very little to complain about when we're talking all videos on Gigi's site being HD. As of right now, I have less than half the content downloaded and am already over 25 GB, so the quality is high as is the focus on the content, Gigi. Pictures could be bigger, while the repetitive photos of the same pose for multiple pictures is a bit annoying, the photos are generally entertaining.
I went into a little more detail on the bonus sites in the Pacino's Adventures review, all are ok with La Zona Modelos standing out as the best of those.
Overall, I see this site as a 1 time join, unless Gigi comes back. It's one of the better solo sites and she's an excellent performer. For fans, a recommended join, if not a fan, I would say try Pacino's Adventures and watch a few of her videos there before joining this site.
Yeah I had wondered if patience would pay off on joining through Gigi's site. I've tried to find more content of her on other sites and by using freeones, but haven't had much luck. Some of her solo videos are as good as I've seen from any model.
The Pacino's Adventure site seems to be updating well with the updates in the last few weeks coming on March 15th, 18th, 22nd, 25th, 29th. Though the newest one is not a Latina. I would say, in my case, having never been a member helped since I didn't have any of the archive content. There is a lot of Gigi on Pacino's Adventures and a lot of Tania Spice too. Tania is a great one too, but the braces are a little distracting. At least it doesn't look like she is wearing the braces for her porn career since she has 34 D natural boobs, kind of hard to pass her off as a very young teen!
I will have to look more into Gigi and see if I can find some of her newer content. Yeah, Karla is a beautiful girl, but you kind of get the idea when looking at her content that she was either shy or wasn't really into modeling. Her demeanor in her picture sets reminds me of Amy Reid when she first started modeling.
These solo sites have zips: Cierra Spice and Pamela Spice
These don't: Selena Spice, Spice Twins, Bella Spice and Mariah Spice
On La Zona, some of the older sets don't have zips. They don't have a dated list of updates so it is hard to say exactly when they started using zips, but from the best I can tell, it looks like the last 2-3 years of photo updates on La Zona have zips. I would say it's roughly 40% no, 60% yes.
Cultural tattoos, especially in Pacific Island regions, South America, often have tribal/ancestry roots to them. Though these are not usually required, the tattoos are seen as tributes to their heritage/those who have passed away. You'll also see this some in California with the Chicano people having Aztecan tattoos. Sadly, tattoos, especially "tribal" ones have become so popular that ones with meaning are often overlooked and grouped with the fad tattoos.
I think you may be getting the Pacino's Adventure site confused with Pacino's World. Looking at Pacino's Adventure's model index there are 3 Euro models out of 64 models. Those are Anita (Dark), Tina (Christine, Christina) and one named Carrie that I'm not familiar with, but her page says Europe on it. On the other hand, Pacino's World has Eve Angel, Evelyn Lory, Gabriella Lupin, Renee (Anetta Keys) and Jana/Teresa to name the ones I recognize. If you will notice in my review; I point out that the Pacino's World content is NOT exclusive, but the other included sites are exclusive. Seeing that Pacino's World is just a throw-in bonus site; I can't see punishing Pacino's Adventures for that.
On the videos, the newer videos on Pacino's Adventures are 1440x1080 with 6500 bitrates. The newer videos on Pacino's World are 720x480 with 3000 bitrates. That's a pretty big difference in technical quality.
And on the score part, I'm mainly going by considering this the best overall Latina network/site and following the TBP/PU scoring scale of best in its category between 90-100.
Check the Pacino's Adventures preview and model index out to see what I mean about only 3 Euro models.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Very good site that includes access to a network of Latin models.
- Total of 9 sites included in membership, 8 are exclusive, Pacino's Adventures is a blend of solo, girl/girl and boy/girl hardcore and is exclusive. The 7 other exclusive sites feature 6 models and their friends. The other one Pacino's World is not exclusive from what I can see.
- Gigi Spice is an absolute doll. Lots of content of her here. Sadly have to buy separate membership to her solo site to get all of her content.
- Tech quality on newest updates goes like this, videos 1440x1080 w/6500+ bitrate. Pics are 1600 long end and come zipped. The older videos are 720 high end and are good enough for me, pics never go below 1200 on oldest sets.
- Two updates on this site per week, pic/video/screenshot in each update.
- Good DL speed, around 90% of my max DL speed
- For the most part nicely laid out navigation
- Around 65 models as of 3-27-10, multiple sets for most. Also plenty of fresh, never before seen models.
Cons:
- Would be in for a long time if Gigi's solo site was included in the network.
- Had a few downloads break during download, but the files are still there. Seemed to be more a connection issue, could have been my side. Re-downloads went fine.
- One of the sites, Pacino's World, looks to be a non-exclusive site of just various models. Wouldn't have noticed until I saw 3 sets of Eve Angel that are on almost all non-exclusive sites.
Bottom Line:
Not for sure why I hadn't joined this site earlier. My best guess is that it wasn't a network at one point and some of the solo model sites included are non-nude or topless only. Not that that is a bad thing, it probably was just pushed aside while I was looking for nude sites.
There are roughly 65 models on Pacino's Adventures and I've downloaded 60 of them. Gigi Spice is the star for me, Emy Reyes is also on here, she's one of the few models I had seen on other sites. Most of these models are new to me and nearly all are very pretty, nice bodies and not a lot of shyness either. The language could be a problem for some since it isn't English, but there are English subtitles for the important moments.
Pacino himself is the only male on the site. That could be a problem for some, but I think he does a good job of keeping himself off the camera as much as possible. He has a low voice so it's not the male screeching that many pornos have.
Tech quality is very good, those 1440x1080 videos look nice. Everything is arranged well. Model index, each model has her own page with all of her photo sets and videos on it.
The only real down for me is the exclusion of Gigi Spice's solo site. The way it works, Pacino's Adventures, Gigi Spice, Tania Spice and Karla Spice are like the flagship sites. When you join any of these you get La Zona Modelos, Pacino's World, Cierra Spice, Pamela Spice, Spice Twins, Selena Spice, Mariah Spice and Bella Spice. All of these sites are very good, but you're still going to need to buy multiple memberships if you want say Pacino's Adventures and Gigi Spice's solo site. Those four flagship ones never are included with one of the other flagship ones that I can see.
Not too bad of a deal since you still can get a dozen or more sets of each of those models on Pacino's Adventures and La Zona Modelos to see if you would want to pay another $30 for their solo sites.
Some of the more tame/less nude sets are still highly erotic. The bodies on these models are mostly curvy below the waist and smaller on the top half. Gigi looks to have about a 24 inch waist and 38 inch hips with 34B breasts. I didn't see any implants on any of the models, there are some tattoos, but most likely those are cultural ones not the kind just to look like everyone else. I was a bit surprised to see a white model in one of the recent updates, but I'm estimating 98% are Latina. Updates on the bonus sites are hard to tell much about. Most of those network sites are not dated on the updates so I wouldn't know if those are updating.
La Zona Modelos updates look to be 4 per week.
Pacino's Adventures updates every 3-4 days with the full photo/video/screencap update on each of those.
The solo ones are a little hard to tell, but there is a ton of content overall.
I'll go as far as saying it's the best Latina network/site out today. The exclusivity of the sets and fresh, new models also helps a lot. Highly recommended.
Or considering that I can easily download 50 GB a day, that would be roughly 125 GB that I missed out on or the equivalent of 31 DVDs at $20 a piece for $600.
You seem to have a problem with reading and understanding the purpose of a post or comment. The title is asking if anyone else ran into this problem in February. It's not hanging Bang Bros or the pay processor, it is just bringing up the oddity most likely brought on by the leap year month. You're always talking about how you are sick of the negativity, but all I ever read from you is you being negative towards other members. Do as I say not as I do, right? If you have nothing positive or constructive to add, I would appreciate if you didn't reply to me again. I'm not here to own anyone or to be a smartass.
We've had different experiences on this then. The memberships I've had are 30 days. My Reality Kings membership in December 09, according to my receipts started on December 17th, ended on January 16. Viv Thomas Video joined on January 12th, ended on February 11th. It's not that big of a deal as far as cost goes, but it's just the point if sites are doing this will all customers that could add up to a nice chunk of money.
Maybe I'm looking into this too much, but had expected to have my Bang Bros account through today. Instead, it expired yesterday morning. Here are the exacts.
Signed up on February 23rd, 2010.
Membership expired on March 23rd, 2010
Normally this would look right, but February only had 28 days in it. I could even go into the exacts of time joined and time expired to show the loss of several days membership.
Signed up at 11:02 PM PST on Feb. 23
Stopped ability to access at 9:30 AM PST on March 23rd
So, a month membership would equal 720 hours
I had 5 full days in February and one 1 hour day 5x24+1= 121
In March I had 22 full days and one 9 hour day 22x24+9= 537
537+121 = 658
Going by that, I was shorted 62 hours or a little over 2.5 days. Didn't irk me enough to stop me from re-joining almost instantly, but I had this problem one time before with another site. I don't know if it is the site or the billing processor to blame, but 2.5 days is 2.5 days.
GCode, you know with my experience on porn sites that it says something when I say this network overwhelmed me! They have over 250 videos/250 pic sets on at least 10 different sites. I used up over 300 GB of hard drive space and was downloading the average quality files in 640x480 resolution. The bad thing, I didn't even visit 4 of the sites outside of just checking that they are updating for the review. My wife likes the Party Hardcore site so I mainly focused on it, then added a few scenes of favorite models from the other sites. Agree about Party Hardcore, my one really big complaint is when they move the camera off the hottest woman there and put it on a plain, average looking woman. I spend half the time trying to find the hot woman I saw at the first of the video! The other one Drunk Sex Orgy is similar to Party Hardcore with less people and here is what gets me, they have 3 different fixed cameras that focus on a separate area, you download all 3 views. I don't know why they don't do that with Party Hardcore.
Hey Gcode, I would say it is 99% Euro, kind of hurts the storylines, but is good on the eyes. They have a couple at least one site that is European amateurs Party Hardcore. The other sites blend pros with amateurs. There is a wide variety of sites on the network and all are loaded with content. It's still hard for me to believe that these sites were over $40 each just a year or so ago. Now it is $25 for all sites. Very original content, Party Hardcore is the flagship site, male strippers doing bachelorette parties, ends up turning into orgy. Very believable since some of the women do pull away and won't join in. It just gets a little hectic at times. There are cumshot sites, a tranny one, group, fully clothed sex, pissing, some femdom, just a lot of niches and all exclusive.
As my membership runs out, I thought I would add a little to my review. I didn't realize the amount of stars they have on some of their sites that are included in the network. Simony Diamond has multiple sets. I'm pretty sure I saw Clara G in a few. Eve Angel is listed in 3, but I don't see Eve in them. Not for sure what happened there. Angelika Black is in multiple sets as well. The stunning Rihanna Samuel is in multiple sets. Cindy Hope, Jeny Baby and several others as well. These stars are mostly on Mad Sex Party, Fully Clothed Sex and the other non-amateur sites they have. I don't remember seeing any major stars in Party Hardcore. These sets are exclusive and include pictures as well, so if you're a collector like me these add even more to the network.
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