Hey Denner, I found a few other rare though not hardcore scenes of Eve on Mark Dorcel's DVDs. Those are girl/girl so nothing that great since Eve has hundreds of g/g scenes already, but those were new to me.
I'm thinking on the one you are asking about. It kind of sounds like her first set at Give Me Pink. Seems like she was sitting on a bar stool. Do you remember what she had on? In the Give Me Pink one she had on a white tight top with a blue skirt. In another way, the set kind of sounds like one she has on Super Glam. As of right now, I have a staggering 678 GB of Eve. I have a whole 1 TB HDD just for her content.
The download speed problem has been fixed for about a week now so that should be fine.
I was going through my old content from the DDF sites that I had joined in the past. I noticed that Aneta Keys had some scenes missing from the DDF Prod site. It's a very big deal to me since the review is on DDF Prod and it's not effectively showing all of the possible content on the DDF sites. Here are the numbers.
Aneta on DDF Prod has 16 scenes showing, meaning 16 videos and 16 photo sets.
If you go to each of the sites DDF Prod lists as having content of Aneta on their network, you will find these numbers.
Aneta on 1byday = 9 photo sets and 9 videos
Aneta on Hot Legs and Feet = 17 photo sets and 16 videos
Aneta on Sandy's Fantasies = 1 photo set and 1 video
Aneta on Euro Girls on Girls = 3 photo sets and 3 videos
That is a total of 30 photo sets and 29 videos on the network though DDF Prod only shows 16 of each. Mind you, there are some sets that are on more than one site, but there are some completely left off DDF Prod. The only reason the subtraction is not more is because they are hurting themselves! If you go to each site the model is listed at you can get more content than they are showing the model having. The reason for any deduction is that DDF Prod was supposed to make the network easier to use, it does, but if it doesn't show all the content is it really that helpful?
Looking at my Eve rare folder, these are the ones I have.
The rarest is a group sex scene. I picked this up from one of those pay by the scene sites. It is a full hour long and has Eve, 4 other females and 4 guys. One of the guys is Franco who is in a lot of Euro videos. It's not that good since the camera is moving around a lot. Eve gets 2 full facials in it and looks disgusted. I wouldn't buy it again.
Another pretty rare one is from 18interracial.com with a black guy, she looks very young in it, has full pubic hair in it. It's a pretty good scene, but she seems very timid and shy in it.
There are 2 hardcore scenes on Viv Thomas' site including that one with Jo and the guy with floppy hair. I think those are on Videobox too. VB also has the Anal Lolas scene from early in her career.
There are the scenes with Leslie Taylor (guy with ponytail) there are a couple on DDF sites and those are also available on this site in full scenes now with better quality. She had another hardcore scene with Leslie that has resurfaced on the 21st Sextury network, they are in front of a fireplace in a chair. The bathroom hardcore scene with Maxxo is also back on the 21st Sextury Network. I think it is probably her best hardcore scene. Maybe her last too.
The others go into very rare hard to get. There is one, old Hustler video, where she is with two guys at one time, full anal, double penetration, this was very early in her career. She was pretty in it, but isn't near as built as now and has the full pubic hair.
Another from that same time period, also Hustler, has her with a guy and girl. Both of these are okay at best. These were when she went by the name Severine instead of Eve.
The next best one to the one with Maxxo is also a Hustler video. She starts with a full tease. An older guy walks in, lots of kissing/touching, she seems to really be into this one. I have it listed as from one of the HustlerBarely Legal DVDs. Also remember, Hustler had her as Severine if you look for them.
Last one was maybe the one that made her stop hardcore. It is with a chubby Asian guy. From everything I've read it was supposed to be a creampie though he has a condom on. He rips the condom off and the creampie instead splatters on her face. One of the worst hardcore scenes I have ever seen.
Oh and she has the Woodman Casting clip as well. That was her first ever shoot. Not very good, Woodman is always rough with the new girls. She looks and sounds more in pain than pleasure. I think that is all of the hardcore shoots unless there are some I'm missing!
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- A site that caught me by surprise, great site for photo lovers with bonus content that should keep the video lovers happy too.
- Technical quality is as high as you will see on videos, 1920x1080. Also have lower quality options for download for those with slower connections or who prefer the smaller files.
- Pictures are 3000 long end and can be downloaded in zip files, 2000 and 1000 sizes are also available.
- Receiving about 98% my top download speed.
- Close to 150 models as of 1/7/10, many are newer models, plenty of rising stars like Angelika Black and Sonia Red, plus full on established stars like Eve Angel and Veronika Fasterova. Nice blend of American models as well.
- To my surprise, the glamour feel of the site and photos, is topped by fairly hardcore solo videos, dildos, fingers, fisting and girl/girl.
- Bonus content comes in right behind Teen Dreams on bonus content value (explain in BL)
- 100% exclusive
- Nice TBP discount
- Daily updates
Cons:
- Still a newer site so the main content needs a little growth, updates are coming daily so this won't be a problem for long. Bonus content helps out with this one too.
- Similar to other sites I've reviewed lately, would like to see better filenames. These are mostly numbers. Kind of being nitpicky here.
- One of those sort of not con, but is a con, the photo sets are good enough that I would like videos of each.
Bottom Line:
I'm going to start with the bonus content. You get full access to HD Porn Pass, by my count, I am going to say roughly 2,000 HD scenes. You also can get another nearly 2,000 HD scenes from their "naughty" link which is a link to Sincinema. A jaw-dropping Sarah Blake 2010 video just showed up, wow, has she grown up! You can stream those or download them.
The HD Porn Pass scenes can be searched by going to Teen Models bonus section and by either going to each niche (Soccer Milfs, Geek Girl Sex etc...) or by just going to the HD Porn Pass link. The videos are standard HD DVD quality of 1280x720. What this amounts to, to me, is our forever complaint of when are the DVD sites going to go HD? You pretty much get an HD DVD site included with Teen Models, nearly 4,000 scenes total. Good stuff in any circumstance, let alone as bonus content.
The main content at Teen Models is focused on solo/lesbian scenes. The models are almost all top-tier, Eufrat, Eve Angel, Veronika Fasterova, Sonia Red and Angelika Black to name a few of my favorites. They have the newer Sonia Red look if you're a fan of her like I am. She should be a bigger star than she is! Also, for Stracy Stone/Bijou fans, she has, in my opinion, her best content on this site, of her career. I didn't even recognize her as herself at first.
The site's navigation is easy to use. You have a model list that lets you list the models by popularity or by clicking the letters for alphabetical.
The content itself varies between solo masturbation to hardcore fisting to girl/girl/girl/girl sets. I think the bonus content adds here since it has a lot of hardcore scenes in it to balance with softcore/solo main content.
The updates give you a 7 full picture set updates per week, three 1920x1080 videos and 2 new 1280x720 videos per day in the bonus section.
One thing I should note on the bonus videos, some are split into 1-3 parts. Mostly in the niche heavy content that has a story with the set. Maybe 25% of all bonus content, none of Sincinema.
The photo sets also come with a large amount of photos, all of the sets I've downloaded have at least 125 photos and several sets go up into the 200s. Considering that you can download these at 3000 long end resolution, you're looking at 200 MB or larger zip folders for photo sets.
You can tell it's a newer site, clean layout, well-marked buttons, full of download options. Great model selection and the bonus content adds a ton of depth to the site. Niches covered in bonus, solo, blowjob, hardcore, anal, tranny, handjob, interracial, lesbian, nerdy girls, barely legal, the bonus content really is like a HD DVD site within this site. From what I can see the bonus content is also exclusive.
It's a definite recommend with an even brighter future. Speaking of future, also has a "Sneak Peek" section that lists the next 30 updates so you can know what to expect. More sites really should add this feature. Like I said earlier, it seems to do everything right.
I can agree with the wait and see method. I think once they get the servers working better, it will be one of the best sites on the internet, especially for those of us who have been around on 1byday for years and can now get better quality of our old favorite videos and new updates too.
Maybe it would help for me to clarify the problem. I'm not having as much problem downloading directly from the 1byday site as I am downloading the 1byday content from the DDF Prod site.
I tested both after posting this comment and got these results.
From DDF Prod downloading 1byday content: 18 kb/s
Directly from 1byday: 219 kb/s
It reminds me of the time, last New Years(?) when you all offered the full network and the servers were almost unresponsive. And like I said, I will be as patient as possible. I understand there are some things you all can't control, but I did think it was best to mention it right now since there was a possibility you all didn't know about the problem.
The bad thing is, I don't know which would be worse if the Eve sets had the video and photo sets on 1byday or like it is where they are only giving the photo sets. That's kind of a backdoor method of cross-sales. Reminds me of those extremely cute Ally Bank commercials where the guy asks the little girl if she wants a pony. She says yes, he gives her a toy pony. The other little girl says yes, he brings out a live one. The one with the toy pony gives him a look like, "what the hell?"
Would you believe that I didn't even enter the Meet Eve contest? There was probably a catch there too. I talked to Denys years and years ago is an email, back when photographers were just normal, really lucky, guys, these different business practices just don't seem like something he would do. If he is off shooting new material and they need to fill 1-2 updates here and there with content from their other sites, I can understand that, but 8 in 6 weeks is a little much.
The one thing I really like about the multiple sites is the remastered old videos. DDF has two of my top 3 Sandra Shine videos, one is of her and Rita Faltoyona with a guy. Sandra completely sells her desire to jump in with the guy in it. The other is Sandra on a Sybian. The DDF Prod site has those in full scenes and about double the resolution I had them in and they were in parts. Eve has a few as well. Peaches. I thought that was a really nice move. Also, I had never been a member on DDF Busty or Cherry Jul until they went to this format. Still, 15 KB/s, isn't going to let me see much about those sites.
I just hate when I post a glowing, high review, then things start going wrong within a few days.
First problem is once again an "update" to 1byday (1-4-10) that was an update on Eve Angel Official two weeks ago. I take it they don't understand how unfair this is to those of us who pay $25 for Eve's exclusive content only to see it show up on their network that we pay another $35 for. From November 16th to current (January 5th), there have been EIGHT of these updates that come from Eve Angel Official. To make matters worse, Eve Angel Official only has 18 updates since November 16th.
Maybe I am jumping ahead of myself on the criticism. It should be noted that none of the Eve updates on 1byday have the videos ONLY the photo sets. So, I guess that is to make members of DDF Prod join Eve Angel Official to get the videos. It's still unfair to either side. I hadn't noticed those when I posted my review, but Monahan left a comment about some updates not having videos. I hadn't looked at Eve's content since I had all of it already, but took a glance to make sure I didn't miss anything and saw the video-less updates.
Nope, not the only problem. Our ISP finally picked up 25M internet speed. I upgraded to it from 10M. For 3 weeks, DDF Prod was giving me excellent 3 MB/s download speeds.
This past Friday, I signed in and started downloading some Cindy Hope videos, download speed = 15 KB/s or about 200 times slower than I had been downloading. I thought maybe it was my ISP, but speedtest.net said I was downloading at 25.46 M speed. I figured it was maybe one bad day and waited until Saturday to try again, 15 KB/s again, same on Sunday.
I go back on Monday, speed started out fast, 3.2 MB/s but before one video had downloaded it was back down to 15 KB/s. I just tried before posting this comment and am seeing a little improvement with 250 kb/s, but even that is way slower than what I had been downloading at. Of note, the download speed improved when I went directly to the site the video was on, instead of downloading through the DDF Prod site.
I'll give them a few days to work this out before changing my review score, but nearly a week has been lost at this point. Hopefully, things will improve on the DL speed. I think I'm fighting a losing battle on the Eve Angel part.
I can see that side of it. I am a little frustrated with their network right now, another Eve Angel Official update showed up on Monday as a 1byday update. That stings my wallet a little each time they do it since I paid for subscriptions to both. I'm also getting terrible DL speeds and have been since Friday.
Several of the sets on the Eve Angel Official site are tease-heavy without masturbation. I don't know if Eve is finding it harder to get off these days or if those sets are planned as mostly tease sets. I've noticed in some of her newer videos she doesn't seem to be getting off as easily without laying on her back and lifting her legs straight up in the air. Which definitely isn't the best view for the viewer. That one set DDF has, Black Nightie, or something like that in a mostly red setting should be illegal! Looking at the video right now, 16 of the 20 minutes she has her panties on. I actually think she gets off by rubbing over her panties in that one.
There should be a drop down box on the calender page that lets you select the month and year. Using the calender menu should give you a calender type page that shows a thumbnail of every day that month unless they've changed it.
The model list can be frustrating, but in my experience, in takes you back to the range you were in before clicking. This could vary if you have more than 1-2 files downloading when you try it.
There are some top American models that show up occasionally. Like Aria Giovanni, she has over 20 sets on the network. It is probably 90% Euro.
1byday is the flagship site of photographer Denys DeFrancesco (DDF). It has been around for over 10 years and he is credited for discovering models like Sandy from Club Sandy, Eve Angel, Sophie Moone and a good portion of the Euro models who are now established stars. What I like about his work is his use of tease. He actually has videos of Eve Angel where she doesn't even masturbate. She teases for 20 minutes. Most of his sets are high on the eroticism. Though there is plenty of masturbation and hardcore as well. For the last few years, a month subscription to 1byday was $35 by itself, you get it and 9 other sites, including the excellent Hot Legs and Feet.
I would guess solo scenes are the most on the network. 1byday was mostly known for its solo scenes and would have 1 or 2 hardcore updates per week. He has some really good machine videos/picture sets too. One of Peaches on a Sybian, on an office desk, is about the hottest Sybian scene I've seen. The House of Taboo one goes into bondage, the more extreme content, though I usually don't go for these types of scenes, some of it is really good. It still maintains a pretty high level of eroticism.
There seems to be some technical problem with all of DDF sites. Eve Angel Official has released several updates where the pictures or video don't get posted right away. I usually send them an email and they get it fixed. I really do think it has something to do with the programming, as mentioned, I can't get the DDF Prod network to remember any of my login details, but Eve Angel Official does.
Good idea on the HDD, I bought a 1 TB (sale $59) a few weeks ago and have been using it just for this network.
I'm glad you confirmed the search engine working. From the test I did on it, it looked like it was working well. It probably has something to do with all the tags their pictures and videos now have on them in the property files.
I actually had went with a 98, which would be my second highest score ever given until I noticed the use of Eve's content as new on 1byday. You should still post a review since you could probably add to the search engine part and add your likes and dislikes.
Thanks, I've actually been a member at 1byday and Hot Legs and Feet since 2005. I have an expired review of 1byday in 2007. Part of my enjoyment in the network is the remastering of old sets. Especially the videos that were once only available in parts, now they're much better resolution and available in full scenes. I would guess that could be a pro or con depending on the user. From what I can tell, most of the Euro Girl on Girl content is from the 1byday archive, just in higher quality. Depending on how far you go back with 1byday, most of the videos were 320x240 resolution and split into as many as 10 parts. On a 24 inch monitor, they looked terrible. To see a really bad recycling site check out Eve Angel. The webmaster removed a full year of daily updates, changed the filenames and re-releases them as new. No improvement in video quality.
Thanks, it looks like it is going to be permanent. I'm guessing the 21st Sextury new network with all of their major sites included is breeding some good competition!
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
Updated:
01-19-1010:52pm (Update History) Reason: See Jan 20 comment for explanation of -5 points
Pros:
- A massive collection of content. You get 10 sites for the price of one. If you had joined these 10 sites in 2008, you would have paid $275 for all of them. You get them here for $35.
- Videos over the last few years are available in 1280x720 with 4000 bitrates. The previous poor quality older videos are now 704x528, a much better picture than they previously had. Pictures are downloadable in zips at 2000 long end.
- Excellent download speeds though the site still loads a little slow.
- Having all of the models content showing up on one site makes navigation much easier than before when you had to sign in to another site to see their content on the other sites.
- Network as a whole has averaged 3 updates per day in December 2009, each update has video and picture set, could be sold as 6 updates per day if they wanted to separate the photo sets from videos like some sites do.
- Denys brings in some semi-retired models that other sites can't seem to get anymore.
Cons:
- The most legitimate con for me is the use of Eve Angel Official updates as 1byday updates. It's the situation where the most loyal DDF fans are getting screwed over. I pay an average of $20 a month for Eve's site and $35 a month for DDFProd only to see updates on 1byday that were updates on Eve Angel Official a few weeks ago. By my count, there have been 4 of these instances since November. Not a big deal to some, but when Eve's site only updates 2-3 times a week, it is becoming a big deal.
- The oddest con ever, the high quality video downloads say, "704x528 2.5 bitrate" when you download it is 1280x720 with 4.0 bitrate. They're selling themselves very short.
- Don't know what is going on with the dates on the content, but there is no way those dates are right. One of Sandra Shine says 2007, it is easily from Sandra's earliest days as a model, maybe 2002-2003. None of the updates are listed as before 2007.
- Not a big deal on any of these, just little things I noticed.
Bottom Line:
DDF has put together quite the impressive network. Most fetishes are covered, we've got solo, machines, lesbian, group, b/g hardcore, anal, blowjobs, legs with hose and heels, big boobs (DDF Busty), little "boobies" on Euro Teen Erotica and most importantly to me, 1byday, one of internet porn's greatest sites.
Denys has always been one of my favorite photographers. He usually is very good about getting the tease parts many sites skip over.
Focusing on the new format of DDFProd. I really can't say how well the search engine works. I'm not usually a search engine user on Euro sites since I know which models I am looking for. I did try it out and it looks promising. It has dozens of separators/tags with boxes to tick, like Skin-->Ebony, White, Latina, Asian and you tick the one you are looking for. It then refreshes and marks out the other options/genres that have no models of that skin color in them. You keep ticking new separators/tags and it keeps eliminating the ones that are no longer relevant to your search. You can hit "Show results" at any time.
Having all of the models content on one site is huge for me. I usually go for all content of each model that I like. Now I don't have to sign in on each site.
The updates across the network are averaging 3 per day right now, and as all DDF sites do, you get a photo set and video with most updates. I used to pay $35 a month for 1 update per day on 1byday.
I'm having frustration with the login page. It doesn't store any of my login information, so I have to dig out the .txt file I store my user/pass on each time I sign in.
The use of Eve Angel Official updates as 1byday updates is by far my biggest complaint. I won't lie, it dropped my score from 98 to 96. I feel like I've wasted money somewhere between a membership to both DDF Prod and Eve Angel Official. And I will be in a situation where I have to decide which one I am going to renew after the memberships run out. It won't be both of them. One will be pushed back to join every 6 months status.
There isn't much to complain about with technical quality. The older videos have been improved in quality, the newer videos are HD. Picture quality is plenty good enough. Download options are most likely unmatched as they have the videos in wmv, avi, mov, mpeg, ipod and I do like the overall design of the new site. It's very easy to use.
I wouldn't even try to estimate the total amount of content. I will say that a few of those sites, Euro Girls on Girls, Sandy's Fantasies and I think Euro Teen Erotica have some of the archived sets from 1byday in them. One Sandra Shine set stands out. She is in jeans with a halter type top, one of her best sets ever. It was always on 1byday, now it is listed as on Sandy's Fantasies. Not a big deal since it is still available, but did want to mention that.
You'll be hard-pressed to find a site with better photography, better models, quantity and technical quality as this network offers. Highly recommended.
I'm sure they (RK) have some locations that they know are relatively safe, low police presence, low crime areas, etc...
One scene is in a garage with the door open. I'm sure they have vans or trucks lined up outside to partially block the view, which is something the viewer can't see. The flashing parts look to be in areas where there aren't many people and probably more importantly, where they can again, block and monitor who all can see what is going on. These are the same guys that work with fighter Kimbo Slice. He has multiple videos on youtube where they were able to have fights in public without getting in any trouble. So they have plenty of experience with being elusive to the authority. A few of Kimbo's fights even have the guy who talks in the Reality Kings porn videos in them.
The reason you aren't getting much video satisfaction with this Viv site is because it is his photo site. The videos are there, but they are there to hope you buy the DVDs or join his video site. His video site is VivThomasVideo. It has the full scenes in one part. On a side note, he has started putting more pictures on the video site too.
You can also get full access to all of his videos in full parts by joining Teen Dreams. It is listed as "bonus" content under "Viv Thomas Videos" on their site, but it is fully downloadable, full scenes and probably has 95% of his videos on it. This is probably the best deal, though the movies aren't quite as high quality as his video site has, they are still a respectable 640 high end. Plus, with the TBP discount, Teen Dreams is only $19.95 so you get their whole huge site and all of Viv's videos too for less than $20. They also have his picture sets in their bonus section, but no zips.
I always like seeing those now hardcore stars in the softer sets, especially early in their careers. One of my favorites that I forgot to mention is the Tiffany Taylor (Celine on FTV) shoot. I didn't even realize Jana Jordan was on there. I'll have to go back and get those.
I can see the use of a highlight video as well. And I even like some of the interview parts as well. Though the interviews are always teetering on tedium. The camera angles could be a bit better too. There is one video I was watching earlier of a model on the FTV toy. It seemed to be a perfect position for at least a minute or two of filming her butt, but the camera stayed in front of her the whole set.
By scanning the update logs it looks like the 1440x1080 videos started around December 2007. They also have remastered some of the older videos as well, but there are still some of those older ones that are fuzzy looking. I would estimate the last 100-105 models have been 1440x1080. There also are a lot of models I've never seen before.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Long overdue re-review of one of the internet's best known porn sites. Originally rated a 91.
- The newest videos are 1440x1080 with hefty 8000 bitrates, also available in a much smaller 352x240 resolution and a middle ground 720x480 resolution version.
- Pictures have been upgraded to 1600 long end, older pictures range from 1052 to 1280 long end. All are downloadable in zips.
- Site runs very fast for me. I consistently get 20% higher speed on downloads than my average download speed.
- As much exclusive content as just about any site I can name off the top of my head.
- Sets are usually more fun than other sites, a little more daring with some public sets, lots of pre-masturbation flashing as well.
- One of the first sites to have a lot of "squirting" content.
- One of the best sites for finding older content of current hardcore stars. Eva Angelina, Sativa Rose, Jenaveve Jolie, Amy Reid to name a select few have some early career solo sets here.
Cons:
- Videos are still split into parts with no full scene download option. I'm not really for sure what the reasoning is behind this practice, but it gets them a few points reduction.
- This is a personal preference one. I know a lot of members wanted newer, fresher models near the amateur level and they have delivered that. That's not something I like though. I prefer the glammed up models.
- Some of the content can become tedious. Like watching a model trying to flash her boobs for 4 minutes. Some of the older sets feature some of porn's wilder girls who just do it.
- A small con to end the cons, I would like to see more pictures from the sets.
Bottom Line:
I seem to be in a porn lull right now. I decided to try FTV out again after nearly 2 years away from it.
The first thing that I'm going to talk about is that the older content is better than the newer content. I think that was because of the models. Eva Angelina's sets here are some of her best on the internet. Also, I stand by my previous statement that the first set with Amy Reid is Amy's best set of her career.
Of the models that have been added since I was last a member (December 2007), I downloaded and plan to keep the content of 12 of them. They update roughly 4 times a month, so at best, I downloaded and will keep 12 out of 90 models. Even at that, most of the 12 are known porn stars.
Most of the other models are girls that look like girls I went to school with or could be the pizza delivery girl. That's great for some members, but I'm not really into the amateur, girl next door look. Though I do really like Tessa, one of the newer models, who I don't think is a porn star.
One really good part for me is that I lost my FTV files from 2007 when one of my hard drives fried. I was able to go back and get those really great pre-2008 sets.
Overall, the site is still one of the best overall sites. It just isn't that great for me. I kind of feel like I just re-joined to get the content I already had.
If it was my first time joining it, I would probably score it in the low 90s.
The split video parts are annoying. It definitely isn't because of size restrictions or concerns. The parts are rarely over 8 minutes each. This is compounded by having a splash screen on nearly all videos. So even if you line the parts up in a media player, there is still the hesitation between loading the parts plus a 2 second splash screen.
I tried joining the files into one big file, but there is still a splash screen every 8 minutes. I could edit the video and cut the splash screen out, but that's more work than I should have to do for a premium site.
The complaint with wanting more pictures should be taken as a compliment. I've always liked their photo sets especially the more public ones and would like to see 250-300 photos from each set.
You really can't knock the site on technical quality. The 1440x1080 videos are very crisp. I do wish more sites would optimize the bitrates to fit the resolution size. I would imagine a 1440x1080 video could run smoothly with a 4000-5000 bitrate, but that's nitpicking.
Most of the interviews are fun enough. It goes back to the model in each one. Eva Angelina is very funny in hers.
The site could easily score 95+ with a few changes. It's hard to say a site has a potential when it has been around as long as FTV has, but it is the best word I can think of in this situation. For those into newer, more unknown models check it out. Some of these newer models they have are really cute and come across as very genuine. Still recommended, especially for those who have never joined it.
Can't say I agree RB. Western Digital has a whole line of externals that are pre-formatted in Fat32 as were the four WD MyBooks I have. Iomega had been shipping from the factory in Fat32 also until the Prestige line came out. It is listed as one of the features on the box, "Now in NTFS out of the box". The Seagate I have also was pre-formatted in Fat32.
There is at least one thread, maybe two, in the forum talking about externals coming pre-formatted in Fat32. Seems like Drooler had a problem a year or so ago with a pre-formatted Fat32. The newest of my WDs was manufactured in March 2009 and it was Fat32 also.
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