Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Tens of thousands of videos
- Some of videos appear to be exclusive
- Some videos have decent resolutions
Cons:
- Few and irregular updates
- Most sites not updating
- A lot of overlap between sites
- The one main site uses low-quality updates
- Almost a clone of Pornstar Network
Bottom Line:
This review may be a lot more ambiguous than what I normally write but I seem to have more questions than answers about this site (these sites?).
The network is made up of 25 pornstar sites, a mega-site, a ‘meduim-sized’ site and four niche sites. I can’t even give an educated guess as to how many DVDs or scenes are available here because there is a lot of overlap between the ‘sites,’ but it would be safe to say that there are tens of thousands of videos here. Sounds enticing, doesn’t it?
Of the 25 pornstar sites only four are updating and the update schedules of those can be generously described as sporadic. There can be two updates in a week and then eight months until the next one. The niche sites no longer update. The medium-sized site, called Premium Pass also doesn’t update. The mega-site, Premium Vids, updates with a new DVD being added almost daily. That sounds okay doesn’t it?
But maybe not. I haven’t been a member at Pornstar Network in a while, but having had a membership at PSN a couple of years ago I was immediately struck that Premium Vids is exactly the same as PSN. Comparing the PSN tour pages to PV shows that PSN says they have a lot more videos though, but that may be a result of PSN requiring an upgrade to access all their videos. This is just speculation, but maybe PSN minus the upgrade-required vids equals Premium Vids.
If that isn't a big enough issue, the mega-site relies heavily, and perhaps exclusively, on lower-tier studios with unknown models. Many of these are also very old so the video quality is pretty bad too.
I did check the video quality on some of the later updates on the pornstar sites and those are not bad at 1280x720. I suspect the proportion of videos with that resolution is quite low.
I can’t say for certain, but a lot of the videos on the pornstar sites seem to be exclusive (with the possible exception of Pornstar Network).
Perhaps the strangest thing I experienced with this site is that as an avid porn collector I downloaded exactly zero videos from this site (other than a couple of samples to check resolutions – which were then deleted). This occurs so rarely that I’m not even sure if it has happened to me.
So would I recommend this site? Only to a narrow group of collectors who find that a favorite model has some scenes here and he just has to get them. Other than that I’d stay away from this site. It’s mostly a collection of older videos, many of them from low-grade studios with unknown models. If you have $20 to spend on a porn membership you can do a lot better than this.
I think high praise of a site is to tell readers that I liked it so much that’s I’ll definitely be rejoining it again. In this case, it’s fair to say that I’ll never join Premium Pass again.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Part of the Fame group of porn sites.
- I hope that other Fame sites don’t adopt the pay-to-download model
- 120+ videos
- Updates frequently (every two or three days)
- Lots of BTS
Cons:
- Basic membership only gives streaming
- Downloads cost extra per scene
- Cancelling can be tricky
Bottom Line:
I should have paid more attention before joining this site because even though the TBP page lists it as streaming only with downloads costing more, I somehow missed that. Downloading could become an expensive option since there isn't a one-charge add-on fee to unlock downloads but there is a requirement to pay an additional $2.95 per scene that you want to download. That could add up quickly.
Pretty Dirty is part of the Fame Digital family of sites so there is some expectation of quality porn offered on a well-designed site and both of those expectations have been met.
The quality of the porn is more of a subjective judgment since it really comes down to what each person likes. My preference is for the harder-edged stuff found at other Fame sites (such as Evil Angel) but even though the porn is more mainstream here it still meets the same high production values found on sister sites. While you will find some scenes that have somewhat edgier plots like threeways and anal, the focus here is more on old-fashioned boy/girl sex. The models are all A-list or models who are new to the business. This site will certainly appeal to anyone who likes the newest models in the business.
Two things about the porn itself are worth noting. First, this site has a lot of older man, younger woman stuff with a sizable proportion of that being the stepdaughter / stepfather niche. There are lots of other niches served, but if you like these ones this site has a lot to keep you entertained. The second thing is that the site offers a lot of behind-the-scenes material and what they offer tends to be more than just a camera recording the scene being shot. The BTS stuff here has some of that fly-on-the-wall footage but spends more time interviewing the performers. For those of us interested in knowing what makes some of our favorite models tick these scenes are interesting to watch.
The site itself is logical and well laid out. Each scene is identified by a medium-sized thumbnail with the performers, scene name and upload date listed too. Clicking on the thumbnail brings you to a separate page where you can view a trailer or the full scene. I don’t normally stream scenes so the number of resolutions available seems a bit of overkill to me, but I’ll assume that there is demand for the wide variation. The scenes can be streamed in 160p, 240p, 360p, 480p, 540p, 720p and 1080p. As I noted above if you want to download a scene you can do so for an additional $2.95 charge. Presumably the same resolutions would be available for the downloads as those are offered on other Fame sites too.
The site offers photos as both singles and zips. There are no additional charges for downloading the photos.
The site currently has approximately 130 scenes available and updates frequently with a new scene being added every few days. The BTS uploads aren't included in that update schedule so a member won’t feel cheated if an update is a BTS scene.
The site offers a lot of different ways to sort and search and those seem to be effective. Many of the scenes are part of a ‘series’ so you can go to that series. You can sort by niche using tags and there is also a search function. You can sort by scene or by the female star.
One warning that has to go along with and Fame site is that cancelling is easy IF you know what information you’ll need. The most critical piece of information will be in your email inbox, and that’s what Fame site were you billed through. Fame uses several of them (and even added a new billing site recently) and if you pick the wrong one you won’t find your membership. You’ll also need your username and password so keep those handy especially if you have the site remember your login credentials so you don’t have to.
Giving this site a score and a recommendation is tough to do because I find the porn a little too tame and I prefer to download my porn. But for someone who likes more mainstream porn and prefers streaming this site could be a perfect fit for them. My biggest beefs with the site are more subjective and I don’t want to factor those preferences into the score or recommendation. So wearing my objective porn-reviewer hat I’d say that this site offers a decent collection of some well-shot porn starring some of the newest and hottest models in the business. The production values are high. The site itself is laid out well and finding something you’ll like is easy. The site offers great value for the $15 TBP discount price.
But… it’s fair to say that most people who are members here at PU are more collectors so you need to be warned that this is a streaming site only unless you want to spend a lot of money. I’m going to keep my fingers crossed that this business model doesn’t spread to other Fame sites.
Excellent review! I haven't been a member here is several years and based on your review I visited the site again. I think I'll rejoin soon. I'm looking forward to seeing some of the newer content that you described.
I'm not glad to hear that you had problems, but it does give me some comfort to know that the site is the problem and I'm not. I really don't understand this practice. I agree that they may make a bit extra money by fleecing unsuspecting customers, but when a site offers good material (which Private does) and they are trustworthy, then I'll rejoin again and again and again. They make more money from me by being honest.
I think I'll be watching my credit card for a while. I wish I had taken a screenshot of the cancellation page...
I'm coming to the end of a month membership and went to cancel. It was a much more frustrating experience than usual so I thought for future members my lessons-learned may be of use.
I'm used to billers like CCBill and Epoch so my default means to cancel is to go to those sites and cancelling is easy. Private's primary biller is Rocket Gate and that's who I was billed through. I went to their site and found nothing for consumers so I Googled "Rocket Gate how to cancel membership" that did take me to a page where I could enter my email and username. The problem is that they had no record of me even though they are the biller. So I emailed them. That was 24 hours ago and I haven't had a response.
The Private site has no link for your account, but at the bottom there is a link for support. That leads to an FAQ page where there is a question about billing. Most of the answer directs you to Rocket Gate, but if you have the same problem as I had then that's not of any use. There is, however, a link to prvtbilling.com. That brings you to a page on the Private website that allows you to enter your username and email address. That worked.
I should also note that I didn't receive a confirmation email when I joined. Those often contain cancellation information. I first thought that could have screwed up my email address when I joined and that would explain the lack of a confirmation email and the inability for the biller to recognize me, but since the Private site itself recognized the email address I'd say I wasn't at fault.
My final advice is that since your membership remains active for the month even after you cancel I recommend trying to cancel early in case you do have problems.
I'm a current member and can sort of answer your question. I wish I could give you a straight answer but the problem is that something strange happened with my membership. When I joined I first accessed the site using the link provided when my membership was confirmed. I didn't save the link or even note what it was because I had no reason to think that I'd need to. That site did have magazines available and my plan was to go through them later. But the thing is that the next time I went to log onto the site using private.com it was a different site. The site looked different, the navigation looked different and there were no magazines. The videos were all the same though. I don't know if I just happened to join just as they were updating the site but I can say for certain that with the site you access through private.com there are no magazines.
As for photos, there's bad news there too. There are no photo sets that I can find. There are photos available but they are related to the videos (though they don't look like screenshots). They also open in the same viewer that the streaming videos use so there doesn't appear to be any way to download them as zips.
I've been a big fan of Private's stuff since I became aware of it 15+ years ago. I don't normally collect Euro porn but I've always made an exception for Private because of their high production values. (You'll notice that they somehow managed to get access to a cruise ship and shot several titles on board with no passengers. That's in stark contrast to so many other studios who won't even spring for a new couch!)
I was a bit reluctant to join because there were a lot of negative comments, but since those were quite old I took a chance and I'm glad I did.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- 660 Private titles
- Likely the most lavish productions of any current large studio
- Stunning models
- Some HD available
- Supports download managers
- Lots of anal (might be a con for some)
- Updates with two scenes (not full DVDs) added per day
Cons:
- Not a true network of sites as indicated
- Download speeds can vary
- Sorting functions are limited
- A few minor issues with separate links leading to the same scene and wrong star names
Bottom Line:
This is one of the better studio sites where I’ve had a membership, but since I find most studio sites lacking in some key areas that isn’t necessarily praise. This is a good site that offers solid value though.
You’ll note that I refer to this as a site while others consider it a network. The TBP review notes that a membership to the main site comes with ten sites in total. That’s sort of true, because those other ‘sites’ exist, but it is also misleading. The additional sites contain nothing different from what is on the main site. The additional sites are more like niche tags. If you sort by DVD and then open a DVD you’ll see that some of the scenes in the DVD are tagged with the watermarks of those bonus sites. While this may be useful for sorting a niche you like, no one should join expecting access to both Private and bonus sites offering additional and unique content.
Currently the site has 660 DVDs available. Unlike so many other studio sites it appears that Private hasn’t neglected to upload some scenes in DVDs. For those who know Private’s videos they don’t need an introduction, but for those not familiar with them, Private is a European studio (likely the oldest in the industry) known for high quality productions. The studio uses only the best looking models (mostly European but a few American A-listers too), has incredibly high production values and often shoots in exotic (and expensive) locations. Like so much of European porn, anal sex is frequent which may deter some members. If the site has a weak point, it isn’t the quality of the porn.
The site’s main weak point, as seems to be common with studio sites, is in the website execution. The site itself is simple, which in many cases is an advantage, but in this case more detail and options should be made available. For example, when sorting by DVD (my preference) the only option is to sort by popularity or title. There is no option to sort by upload date or HD versus SD content.
I’ll confess that I’ve become a bit of a ‘size queen’ in recent months: life is too short for low res porn. The result is that unless there is a specific scene that I really want, I won’t download anything less than 720p. On this site, that meant leaving a lot of porn on the table. (I can’t really say how much HD is available because there is no way that I can find to sort for it, but I estimate that maybe 40% is available as HD.) Given that some of the DVDs available here were filmed prior to HD I can’t fault the studio for this and I assume that all newly shot and uploaded DVDs will be available in HD.
Where only SD is available there is usually only one option of 720x480, though some come in at 720x540. The only file type offered is mp4. Many scenes also offer a lower-res version for mobile devices.
The HD scenes still only offer mp4 but there are more options for resolutions. Those are 480p, 720p, 1080p and mobile. I downloaded the 1080p and those came in at 1920x1080 at 4,100kb/s and 25fps. Interestingly (for a non-tech guy) the file sizes are much smaller than I’m used to seeing for scenes of this resolution. I don’t understand how they’re encoded, but the site really has struck a great balance between how the scenes look (they look great – clear and crisp) and the file size. I certainly appreciate their effort.
Scenes are also available for streaming in the same resolutions offered for downloads.
The site allows download managers and I had no issue with timeouts. I realize that some have reported being limited to five downloads at once, but since I only use a manager to queue up downloads for one-at-a-time download I had no issues. I was also able to continue navigating when downloading contrary to what some others have reported. Download speeds were up to normal standards but I did see speeds drop off on a few occasions. I usually saw 10+MB/s but it could drop as low as 3MB/s for short periods.
A couple of minor issues popped up in that on more than one occasion I went to download a scene and my download manager said I already had downloaded it. It appears that some of the links may lead to the wrong scene. Another relatively minor quibble is that on maybe a dozen or so of the scenes I downloaded the female talent was incorrectly listed. As this is the studio that shot the video I’d like to think they could avoid this mistake.
The bottom line for me is that this is a solid site that offers a lot of top-quality porn for a fair price. While the site could use more tags and search tools, and should continue to add HD content, even as it stands it offers great value for your porn dollars.
Thanks for the review. i found it interesting and informative. I'm a big fan of Private stuff and often wondered about joining. But based on your experience I won't bother.
Two comments:
1) Private seems to have at least two levels of material. Let's say A list and B list. I find that almost none of the A list stuff makes it to Videobox, though some of it does.
2) This seems to be another example of a studio site that begrudginly puts material on the internet. I really don't understand this. The internet isn't the future anymore, it's the present. People want material on the internet now. Having crappy websites with slow downloads won't help any company.
Interesting review - thanks for doing it. I've been thinking about trying a membership at Private but I think I'll wait based on your review. Your complaints about Private seem similar to my complaints about Hustler. Private and Hustler are two of the biggest names in the adult business and you'd think that they'd put the resources into getting it right. But both don't seem to have bothered. I wonder if it isn't partly a mentality that they're too big and too important to fail. Tell that to some car manufacturers and banks. Part of the sad reality though is that this industry isn't known for its customer service model. I suspect that both Private and Hustler figure that they could invest in making a great site that brings in a lot of revenue or they could make a crappy site that still brings in a lot of revenue. One of the reasons that I really like Kink and American Vice is that they leave a member with a sense that they actually care what the customer wants.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- A very good, straightforward boy/girl site
- Some unique ‘conversations’ with the models
- A-list models
- Well shot scenes
- Streaming
- Downloading in three resolutions
- 80+ scenes
- Updates
- Supports download managers
- Bills through Epoch
- Decent price
Cons:
- No zips on photos
- Download speeds vary
Bottom Line:
It’s probably not unreasonable to say that many porn sites try to have a hook that makes them unique to draw in subscribers. A problem I have with this site – though there are few problems – is describing what makes this site unique.
The site’s name, Producer’s Fun, has some significance. One of the males in the scenes plays the role of a porn producer who is finally able to get in front of the camera and have some fun himself. The potential issue that some may have with this setup is that it doesn’t really allow for a lot of unique porn, but the good news is that it does allow for some decent boy/girl scenes regardless of the setup.
There is one thing that does make this site unique and interesting. There are approximately 30+ scenes on the site labelled as “A Fucking Conversation.†They aren’t lying. These may start out like typical BTS scenes or interviews but shortly into the ‘conversation’ the ‘producer,’ (presumably) steps in and starts fucking the model while she is being interviewed. I find two things interesting about these ‘conversations.’ The first is that they are more in-depth than the typical BTS and porn interviews we’ve all seen too many times. The questions aren’t ‘when did you first have sex?’ and stuff like that. I find these interviews are actually interesting to watch as they are just normal conversations about everyday things. The model’s personality is allowed to shine through. The second thing that makes these interesting is that once the model starts getting fucked it’s fun to see her constantly lose her concentration around the conversation. She’s obviously having some trouble balancing having an in-depth conversation at one end as a dick slides in and out of her at the other. Readers should note that these conversations are stand-alone scenes so those who don’t want to see that interaction can skip them and just watch the ‘normal’ sex scenes.
All of the scenes, including the conversations are well shot and edited. This isn’t a site run by amateurs.
The other scenes on the site are relatively generic boy/girl scenes. As someone who prefers more of a unique setup I still liked these scenes a lot primarily because whoever does the casting has only cast A-list models. These are some of the best models in the business today and I don’t mind adding a boy/girl scene of a model I like to my collection. The added gravy is when these A-listers have a ‘fucking conversation.’
Virtually all of the sex is relatively standard: oral for both, vaginal sex and then a facial.
The site currently has just over 80 scenes, with 30 of them being the ‘conversations.’ The site started in late 2017 and is currently updating though the update schedule is a bit irregular. There are times when new scenes are added just a few days apart and then there can be gaps of 10 or 12 days between scenes.
Each scene is available to be streamed though there are no options for streaming resolutions. Every scene is also available for download and there are three options available: 480p, 720p and 1080p. I downloaded the 1080p files and found that the bitrates were a little lower than I’ve seen in other 1080p files on other sites. The bitrates varied from about 4500 to 6500kb/s. The good news is that I still found them sharp. The other good news is that with these lower bitrates the file sizes aren’t huge as with some other sites.
One minor annoyance, and I admit this is being nitpicky, but the person doing the page layouts wasn’t consistent in laying out the links for the three resolutions. On some pages they may be listed as 480, 720, 1080 while on others they could be in a completely different order. I found I occasionally downloaded a lower resolution than I wanted because of this.
I had no issues with using a download manager on the site though I did see a wide variation in download speeds. The speeds were never great but quite often dropped lower than I’d expect to see on such an otherwise professional page.
The site offers photos but if they offer a way to download them as zips I wasn’t able to find it.
The site bills through Epoch so you can know your credit card information is secure and that you can easily cancel or get support when you need to.
The bottom line for me is that while many of the scenes are relatively generic they are well shot and feature some of the best models in the business. An added feature is the conversations with these models while they are getting fucked. While the site doesn’t offer a TBP discount the monthly subscription is only $20 which makes this a good value without a discount. Add to that the security of billing through Epoch and this is a site well worth having a look at.
Good catch. I joined a sister site to this, hotkinkyjo, back almost four years ago and was disappointed to see that it was streaming only. What bugged me most was that the site and the terms of service were vague and could have reasonably been interpreted as allowing downloads. I put a comment up here at PU warning prospective members and the webmaster sent a series of pretty nasty emails to me which culminated in his threatening to sue me. I'll be interested to hear if anything like that happens to you. We could be the only two guys here who have been threatened by the Russian mob!
If you're interested in this niche check out Roxy Raye. She has a lot of similar (but slightly less extreme) stuff and her site allows downloads, or at least it did the last time I joined.
(To make this worse, I avoid piracy sites but I've checked and most of the hotkinkyjo material is available there. As a paying customer, all i wanted was to be able to download the material. The webmaster's motive was avoiding piracy but he failed at that and succeeded in losing a customer.)
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Fun theme-based site
- Includes three other ‘channels’
- Most, if not all, is exclusive
- Mix of known and new stars
- Streaming and downloads
- Downloads in three resolutions
- Easy to navigate
- Updates regularly
- TBP discount
- Bills through Epoch
Cons:
- Models not listed on main page
- Some confusion in how this site is affiliated with VixenX
Bottom Line:
I like themed porn and coming up with such a broad theme as ‘property’ lends itself to many possibilities. The one common denominator here is that there is a property, usually an apartment or a house, as the setting. Add in a couple of porn stars and let the magic happen. It isn't hard to come up with several property-themed setups and you’ll find them here. There is a female real estate agent looking to flip a house that’s been on the market too long, there is the female real estate agent who brings her handyman over to fix something, there is the young lass who is behind on her rent… I’m sure you get the idea. As someone who likes the scene setup as much as the sex itself this site has some good offerings.
The site currently has 91 scenes uploaded, with the first one dated from March 2015. The site updates regularly with one scene being added per week.
The scenes are available as streaming (in one unknown resolution) and as downloads. Downloads are available in three resolutions: 854x480 (1700kb/s, 29fps), 1280x720 (6500kb/s, 59fps) and 1920x1080 (13,000kb/s, 59fps). All of those are MP4. I tend to favour 720p files as they are usually a good compromise between video quality and file size but this time I may have made the wrong choice, not because the 720p are bad (they aren't) but that the 1080p look really amazing without a huge file size increase. For example, the Megan Rain scene in 720p is 1.74GB and 3.49GB in 1080p. The quality difference is striking though.
The site has scenes with the who’s who in the industry at the time the scenes were shot but they also have a good mix of lesser-knowns. I’m not saying that these are B-list models so they may be up-and-cummers or one-and-done. I collect a lot of porn and many of them are unknown to me. They are all 18-22 and are mostly petite and Caucasian.
The scenes may follow a few different types of setups but other than that they are standard porn. One of the talents propositions the other and the scene gets started. Much of the video is shot POV style and in a way that plays with the idea that this is a reality-type scene. Most of the scenes end with a facial. Sadly, apparently when property issues at stake no one considers the universal mediation technique of anal sex.
There is a bit of confusion (on my part) regarding how this site is affiliated with other sites. The scenes are all watermarked as being VixenX. Joining Property Sex gives you access to four themed sites but if you click through the links here at TBP you will find that a membership to VixenX also gives you access to Property Sex. But TBP reports that joining through Private Porn Pass gives you access to VixenX too but none of the Property Sex sites are listed there. I don’t have an answer to how this is all inter-related, but if you want to join Property Sex you may want to dig around a bit on TBP as there may be a better way to do it. Confused? Me too.
A membership here comes with three other ‘channels.’ There is Property Sex VR (with just three scenes, updates can be months apart), Eurosensual by VixenX (121 scenes, not updating) and Perverted P.I. (eight scenes, last update more than a month ago). Eurosensual looks like it could be exclusive but given the availability of licenced Euro porn that’s just a guess. Perverted P.I. has some promise and I hope the site is supported and added to. Private Investigator-themed porn has lots of possibilities.
The site (network?) is well laid out and it is generally easy to navigate and find what you’re looking for – with one glaring exception. On the main pages where there are 15 scenes listed per page with thumbnails you get the scene name, the upload date and the ‘channel’ it belongs to. One key piece of information you don’t get is who the star is. To get that you need to open the link. Maybe I’m wrong here, but it seems to me that the star name is something that most members want to have more easily available.
The site bills through Epoch so you can take comfort when joining that your card is safe and cancelling will be easy. I used a download manager with no problems and had no issues with links timing out. I didn’t hit any download limits and downloads didn’t seem throttled at any time.
Joining through TBP gives a discount and that makes this a really good value. Whether you like themed or scenario-based porn or not this site offers a lot of really hot stars having hot sex in exclusive scenes. The fun ‘property’ theme just adds to that. I recommend taking a look.
Thanks for the detailed reply. Porn Doe has been on my radar for a while now but I've never joined it. This will probably be what pushes me off the fence. One thing that always bugged me about that network is that their tour pages are terrible. But that's common these days. But having a trusted source say that a membership is worth considering is a big help.
I am overdue for a rejoin at Kink too so I think I'll do that too. I've been holding off on a Kink rejoin because earlier this year I did a major reorganization of my collection and I deleted a lot of Kink stuff just because I never watched it. But Public Disgrace is one of their sites where I kept most of what I've downloaded over the years.
(As an aside, I really wish they'd bring back Water Bondage...)
This is a very thorough review. Thanks for writing it.
This has always been one of my favourite sites. I like the public niche and I'm not aware of any site that does much of it. Public Disgrace has certainly pushed the boundaries. (There are many examples, but one that I still watch regularly is where a model named Molly is in a large European city and is made to roam through traffic topless with her ankles bound and her panties down and offer windshield cleaning to people in cars. Insane!) You note that there are a few others. Can you let me know what those are?
I'm always interested to read other PU's reviews of my favourite Kink sites like this one. I'm always a little concerned when I score them high that others will think I'm being subjective so when I see other members scoring high I know I'm not too far off the mark.
Like you, I think this is one of the best sites that Kink offers, and I think Kink is a great network too. This may be just me rationalizing it, but Kink's production values are so high (and therefore there costs must be very high) that I don't see the price as a problem. But... like you I look for email discounts and once you're a member of one Kink site you can join the others at discounted prices. Still, it would be nice to have some bundling option.
Anyway, great review!
BTW - some (like me) see the 'failed scenes' as a pro since they add to the realism. I wish there were more of them.
I agree that since porn is a business that looks to fill every opening (pun intended) that good public nudity sites would be more common. I was really disappointed to learn that my favourite (Teasers VOD) was shut down by Los Angeles. They did push the limit (in nudity, but not in sex because there wasn't any) so that probably got them marked. Another American site (Nude in LA) is completely gone. I'm glad I joined that when I did even though they managed to make a public nudity site that lacked any heat.
Like you, I'm a big fan of Kink's sites. But also like you, I've noticed some subtle changes in several of them over the past while. Not necessarily bad changes, but definitely changes. Like, for example, Everything Butt where the focus now seems more on anal sex (I can't imagine I'm actually complaining about anal sex!) when in the older videos it was more about intense ass play.
I agree with you that the newer videos at PD aren't as public or as disgraceful as some of the older videos. I suspect a lot of that has to do with Kink not wanting to bring the hammer down on themselves.
Not to get too far off topic, but if you haven't seen it already check out the scene with Molly and Steve Holmes. She bound and made to wash car windows in traffic in a European city. Definitely public, and even though she's having a lot of fun it is obviously disgraceful too.
Another more recent favourite is with Samia Duarte. They take her out into a crowd at night and bind her too a lamppost while people take pics.
Damn I wish there were more good public nudity sites out there...
Great review! I was interested to read this as soon as I saw it posted because this is one of my favourite sites on the 'net.
I agree with most of what you say, but I strongly agree with your wish that Kink offered some kind of membership that allowed access to multiple sites. My suspicion is that they don't do this because the sites appear to be stand-alone and run by a different crew for each. That might make sharing membership fees a little more difficult, but certainly not impossible.
You probably know these things, but, just in case some other readers aren't aware:
1) when you're a Kink member at one site you get discounts to other Kink sites,
2) make sure to register your email with them. They sometimes offer great deals to email subscribers, and
3) Videobox has a Kink channel with a blend of a lot of stuff from most Kink sites. The bad news is that to even see what the channel has to offer you need to be a VB member. The good news is that the monthly fee for the Kink channel is pro-rated for the month of your VB membership. If you join the Kink channel in week three of the VB membership you'll only pay for the one week provided you cancel VB after the month.
I've been a member of Fucking Machines a few times too and they have their high production values in place there too. I recall that the price may be a bit higher but I suspect that reflects the production costs with buying and building all the equipment. It isn't something that Home Depot stocks! I'd also recommend getting on their mailing list if you aren't already (presuming that you have a porn-friendly email address...) They'll email offers fairly regularly and some of those can be too good to refuse. Also, as you likely know too, when you're a member of one site you get discounts on others.
While the material may not be to your tastes, I'm sure you'd agree that Kink's production values are very good. I never hesitate joining one of their sites, provided that I figure I'll like the niche, of course.
I've not ever tried any of their live services though I have watched a few taped performances of the live stuff and I have to agree that it is great stuff. Maybe one of these days I'll give it a try. I agree that although it would be difficult it would be very cool to see live shoots of all their niches.
I'm not familiar with the Folsom Street Fair, but I assumed that since it was in SF and that Kink decided to shoot there that it had to be pretty tolerant and open. It would be fun to see sometime.
My guess is that the European public shoot are a lot harder to do so they're not posted as often. There was one posted in each of January and February so I don't think they've give up on them.
I've always found heat in a public scene to come from a model's nervousness and the reaction of the people around her. But you raise something that is just as important - the uncontrolled and unpredictable part of it. That's huge for me too. Thanks for pointing that out.
I thought about mentioning the Dom thing in my review but I thought it was a personal thing so I didn't. Obviously it isn't personal to me since you share my thoughts. I agree 100% that it makes a difference. I like Princess Donna a lot as a director and actor, but for me BDSM needs a male Dom. Sexist? Probably, but it's important to me to see a male doing the Dom stuff.
Thanks for taking the time to comment on my review.
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