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Daughter Swap
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95.0
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Current Member for over 1 year (at the time of review).
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| Pros: |
- Innovative theme
- Believable scenarios
- A-list models
- High production values
- 82 scenes
- Updates regularly (1 or 2 weeks between updates)
- Three scene resolutions
- Photos available
- Supports download managers
- Fast download speeds |
| Cons: |
- Some of the male models are a bit young to be believable
- Could use a 720p resolution to close a wide gap
- No TBP discount
- No search function or model index
- No anal (yeah… that’s personal…) |
| Bottom Line: |
In the interest of full disclosure I should mention that this site has been one of my favourites since I first discovered it 16 months ago. I’ve joined it eight times. I’m confident I can write an objective review though. Let me put it this way – I like the site because the porn covers two of my favourite niches, which is subjective, but it is also a great site and it features high production values, which is objective when measured against other sites.
This site, which began in March 2016, offers some innovative porn unlike any other site I’ve seen. Every scene features two older men and two younger women. Each man plays the father of one of the women. The scene sets up some sort of reason why the fathers want to swap and have sex with the other father’s daughter. In this way, the site doesn’t follow the traditional script of quasi-incest porn. Two of my favourite niches in porn are older man/younger woman and scenes that spend some time setting up a sexual tension. A vast majority of the scenes here hit both of those targets.
I realize that not everyone is into the same things that I am and I understand that there are a lot of porn buyers who simply want to skip ahead to the action and would likely find some of these scenes boring. If you’re a big fan of Legal Porno which is pure gonzo then these scenes are not likely to be for you. But if you like scenario-based porn I strongly recommend looking at this site.
One of the advantages that the site has over other incest-themed sites is that the scenarios here are often more believable. One way that the scenarios can be more believable here are that many of the models are just wearing street clothes through the scene set up. Personally I like this. Each scene takes up to 15 minutes for the tension to build and for the reasons for the swap to be laid out. After that the scenes become pretty much standard boy/girl sex scenes.
Another advantage that this site has over some of its competitors in the incest-theme is that all of the female models here are believable in their roles. All of the models are between 18 and early 20s. Other sites sometimes use older models. Most of the scenes use age-appropriate male models though some of the scenes have men who aren’t really old enough to be the biological father of the model in the scene. For me this is a mere annoyance and not a deal-breaker. And speaking of models, most are either already A-list or rising stars.
More than half of the scenes on the site are split into two. I don’t view this as either a pro or a con. In one update we have the entire scene set up and then the sex scene between one father and daughter. The following update will have a recap of the first scene and then the sex scene between the second father and daughter pairing. The advantage to this is two full-length scenes while the disadvantage is you may have to wait to get the scene with your favourite model once you know she’s there.
The update schedule doesn’t seem to be set in stone. In some instances there will be a new scene added weekly but in others there is a two week gap. I don’t see this as a major issue considering that these scenes have very high production values and probably take a long time to shoot and edit. This is not mere gonzo porn.
There are currently 82 scenes available with each scene being offered in three different resolutions. Those are, 640x360 (850 bitrate), 960x540 (2700), 1920x1080 (12,000). One improvement that I think the site could make would be to plug the gap between the middle and highest resolutions with a 720p offering.
Photos are also available through this site is not really a photo site. Two resolutions are offered: 620x1081 and 900x601.
The site supports download managers and I found download speeds to constantly hit my maximum.
One serious oversight, especially as the site grows, is the lack of any search function or a model index. This, with a 720p option, would be easy to do and be a big improvement.
Unfortunately the site does not offer a TBP discount. I have my fingers crossed that could change in the future.
The site is affiliated with the Team Skeet group of sites. This means that you are dealing with a reputable business but also means that you will have to put up with some ads on the site.
My final complaint, and I realize this is entirely personal, is that there are no anal scenes at all. Surely when fathers swap their daughters in real life they occasionally do anal!
The appeal of this site is broad enough that I have no qualms about recommending it to a wide audience. At its core it is really just standard B/G porn which appeals to a lot of people. The advantage this site has is its unique theme, the effort they put into promoting that theme, the high production values, the decent acting and the hot models. My only complaints are so minor that I only included them to give a well-rounded view of the site. |
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08-10-18 09:23am
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David Nudes
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lk2fireone's Reply
Unless the site goes belly-up in a month or two... But I'm guessing that guys like us would do enough research to minimize that risk.
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03-07-13 01:22pm
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David Nudes
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lk2fireone's Comment
Interesting membership option. I'm not sure I'd consider it given the volatility of the business though. But who knows? If Evil Angel or Kink made such an offer I might take the plunge.
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03-05-13 02:47pm
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1254
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DDF Network
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SoYoung24's Reply
I wouldn't have guessed that English isn't your first language. Your review is well written. Often new members post short reviews with no details at all. They are almost useless. Your review is top quality and very informative.
I see you're from Canada. Me too. New Brunswick to be precise.
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10-14-18 09:25am
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DDF Network
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SoYoung24's Review
Great review! Thanks for adding it.
Welcome to the site. This is probably the most friendly porn forum I've ever found on the 'net. I hope you stick around and continue to contribute.
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10-11-18 05:08pm
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1256
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DDF Network
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skippy's Review
This is an excellent review. I really appreciate all the detail. This is a site I've thought about joining but never did and I think I'll pass now having read your comments. The model age is 10 years more than I prefer and I'm not a fan of big, fake breasts. (Or any fake breasts, for that matter.)
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05-18-15 02:31pm
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1257
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DDF Network
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Denner's Comment
Not that this will help you, but when I joined back in July I was billed through CCBill so cancelling was easy. It appears that they've changed billers. That's too bad since getting burned once I've vowed to only take memberships to sites that use reputable billers. (But I sometimes break my own rules...)
Good luck with this.
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11-25-12 05:31pm
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1258
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DDF Network
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pat362's Reply
Thanks for this. I've search around 21Sextury and can't find any information that leads me to think that the three-month price structure is still there. I hope I just haven't missed it.
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08-01-11 01:27pm
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DDF Network
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pat362's Reply
Thanks. I looked at both at TBP but I'm not sure if the sites they list have been updated since 21Setury made the change. There are several sites within 21Sextreme that I'd be interested in, but 21Setury defintely has more. With the TBP discount I'll probably take a membership to both eventually.
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08-01-11 01:16pm
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DDF Network
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pat362's Reply
Thanks pat. I was hoping that this site would simplify their membership. I'll definitely check it out. 21Sextury seems to be a favourite around here.
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08-01-11 07:22am
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DDF Network
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Monahan's Reply
I really should try 21Sextury, but the confusing membership puts me off.
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07-31-11 11:24am
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1262
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DDF Network
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Monahan's Comment
$38.95!!!!! Wow! That seems extremely pricey. And what a poor record of customer service if they don't have the decency to let you know they need updated credit card information.
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07-31-11 11:02am
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Debbie Teen
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tangub's Review
I love these solo teen sites but they can be such a disaster. The ones I've had membership to were likely created back when dial-up was common given how crappy they are. It's good to hear that some of the sites are now up to mid-2000s tecnology!
Great review!
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11-13-12 04:50pm
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1264
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Deep Throat Love
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jberryl69's Comment
This isn't exactly a reply to your comment (but thanks for adding that information), but your comment led me to check out the Porn Pros network because I have a few other sites I like there, including DTL. I checked Jurassic Cock and was surprised to see that they've only added two scenes since I was a member there some five or six months ago. To make matters worse, most of the other sites (including my other favourite, Massage Creep) don't give update information so I can't tell if it's worth joining again.
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02-12-12 06:24am
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1265
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Deeper
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85.0
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Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
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| Pros: |
- Some story to the scenes
- A-list models
- High production values
- Affiliated with other high-quality sites
- 86 scenes
- New scene added every five days
- Multiple resolutions offered
- Photos available
- Logical, usable site design
- Supports download managers |
| Cons: |
- No TBP discount
- I’ve had problems with this company/biller combination in the past |
| Bottom Line: |
I joined Deeper because every other site under the Mad Cheddar umbrella is a Greg Lansky site and I like his work. (Tushy, Blacked, Vixen, etc.) I figured this would be another Lansky site and fully expected that I’d like it just as much. It turns out that it isn’t a Lansky site and it’s quite different from what I expected and from what I would normally subscribe to but I like it and I’m glad I joined. While the site seems to be a collaboration between several porn stars it appears that Kayden Kross is now the primary director for scenes here.
Describing the scenes available here isn’t easy as there is a wide variety. They all appear to be loosely story-based though the similarity ends there. Some are a little rough with some playful bondage while others could be called couples-oriented* or Glamcore. Another commonality is that the site hires only A-list models and all the scenes have class-leading production values. (This is a clear link to the Lansky sites.) The scenes are all ‘standard’ porn in that the site offers two-ways, three-ways and lesbian scenes. Anal, however, is rare.
I’ve read on other forums where Deeper has been accused of pulling a fast one in that the scenes are all or mostly from a site called TrenchcoatX. While this is true, I don’t think Deeper is trying to pull a fast one. In fact, they link to Deeper at TrenchcoatX. I think, but I’m not certain, that TCX is a VOD site and it may not allow downloads. Now that TCX is a large enough site it seems that they have spun off Deeper as their traditional subscription-based site that allows downloads. I’m not 100% certain about this but it is an educated guess based on time spent on both sites. It also appears that Deeper may have some exclusive scenes.
The site is currently quite large with 86 scenes available. The site continues to grow with a new scene being added every five days.
The scenes are available to stream (with only one resolution) and to download with seven resolutions available: 270p, 360p, 480 Mobile, 480p, 720p, 1080p and 4K. I found bitrates to be better than average on all resolutions and the scenes showed no pixilation or stuttering on playback.
Photos are available as singles or zips in a 2000x3000 size.
The site layout is simple, logical and easy to use. It uses the same layout as all the other Mad Cheddar sites so if you’ve subscribed to one of those you’ll feel at home here. The scenes can be sorted by date, by star and tags are also available.
I had no issues using a download manager to queue the scenes and I found download speeds to be on par with or better than other sites of this calibre.
I can’t point to any specific negatives on this site though I have had trouble with the combination of Mad Cheddar and the biller they now use, VXNBILL. I’ve had three instances of unauthorized memberships being charged long after I’ve cancelled so I’ll be keeping an eye on my card.
The other minor negative is that the site doesn’t offer a TBP discount though when I joined there was no discount offered but it happened that they were offering a $10 Memorial Day special. Let’s hope they make us PU members an offer we can’t refuse.
The bottom line is that while this site is not what I expected and not what I’d usually subscribe to I like the site itself and what it has to offer. The scenes are all A-list models in scenes with a bit of a storyline and high production values. The scenes are offered in multiple resolutions and download speeds are good. If you like high-quality porn with a storyline and a bit of an edge this site is worth looking at. Now if they’d only offer us a bit of an incentive…
*Caveat: I like sites like Hookup Hotshot and Legal Porno so I may not be the best judge of what is truly couples-oriented. |
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06-12-19 03:07pm
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Deeper
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lk2fireone's Reply
I really like most of the Mad Cheddar sites and I joined Deeper thinking it would be similar. This may be the only Mad Cheddar site that isn't a Greg Lansky site and I had wrongly presumed that Mad Cheddar and Greg Lansky were one in the same. But from what I determine most of the scenes on Deeper are by Kayden Kross and come from a site called TrenchcoatX. i'm not familiar with that site.
Oh well, live and learn. It's a decent site and I will recommend it but it just isn't for me.
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05-30-19 02:45pm
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Deeper
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lk2fireone's Reply
LOL! You might not call me a shill after I write a review. I should have done a bit more research on this site. I joined on the strength of it being a Greg Lansky site (Tushy, Blacked, Vixen, etc.) and expected big things. So far I'm less than impressed. It turns out that most of the videos aren't exclusive and not even produced/directed by Lansky. At least they scenes are all 'new' to me.
I'll post a review over the next few weeks as I explore the site more and watch more of the videos.
I should have followed your advice and spent my money on Adult Time!
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05-29-19 01:15pm
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Deeper
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05-28-19 03:41pm
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Desperate Pleasures
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pat362's Reply
I just re-watched Riley's b/g scene and noted a few things that may indicate that she is really new here. First, she spends a lot of time giving the guy a handjob and then she slips a condom on him even before she gives him head. Second, there is no cum shot. When the scene ends the condom is empty. Condoms are rare on the site so I'm guessing that must have happened at Riley's insistence.
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08-30-15 02:57pm
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Desperate Pleasures
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pat362's Reply
She has two scenes on the site. They both look fairly old but with the scenes undated I'd guess that you're correct that they are from early in her career. One of the scenes is an older guy/younger girl scene with the guy I presume is the site owner. it's a good scene. the other one is a lesbian scene with a model named Taylor Raz. I'm not familiar with her.
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08-30-15 01:56pm
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Desperate Pleasures
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pat362's Reply
I wasn't aware that there was a link between here and clips4sale so the fact that you can download is a big deal. But now that you mention it I was watching what looked like an older scene where the models were wearing t-shirts with 'clips4sale' on them so there may have been a connection at one time. Thankfully that seems to be over though since buying through clips4sale is insanely expensive.
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08-29-15 07:43pm
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1272
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Desperate Pleasures
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87.0
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Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
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| Pros: |
- Unique site
- Large site (600+ videos)
- Broad range of fetishes
- Good mix of model types
- Supports download managers
- Bills through CC Bill
- Some A-list models
- Good mix of body types and ages, amateur and pro |
| Cons: |
- Outdated website
- No download options |
| Bottom Line: |
I wasn’t aware that this site and studio existed and only discovered it when looking for some older man / younger girl porn. This site offers a lot of that but since it was marketed as a fetish site it also offers a lot of other stuff too.
The site claims that its origins come out of the 2008 recession when the site owner turned to porn to make a living. The interesting part of that decision is that if the owner is the guy who is in most of the videos, he’s the last person you’d expect to be in porn videos. He’s a typical middle-aged guy with a bit of a belly and an average dick. And he might be the luckiest man alive.
For a fetish site it has a broad range of niches that it caters to. In the early days (around 2012) the scenes were frequently bondage with tickling. This isn't a hardcore BDSM site as with Kink or sites like that; it’s much tamer and more playful. As the site progressed there are videos uploaded with footjobs. There are a few biting videos and a few balloon videos (I didn’t know those were porn things). The more recent scenes seem to have more young girl / old guy (with the guy being the site owner, presumably). Many of these push the limits by having an incest theme but unlike the major studios that do these scenes with a stepfather/step-daughter, this site goes right for the daddy/daughter thing. To make this even creepier, many of these scenes are what I’d guess you’d call the impregnation niche. Throughout the site you’ll also find regular updates with MILFs and lesbians. Sex with pregnant models is also fairly common.
The site has a good mix of known pornstars and lesser knowns (to me, at least). Some of the models may be fetish models and some of them may be genuine amateurs. With a broad range of models you also have a broad range of looks and body types so there is likely something here for everyone.
Both the scenes and the site have a very amateur feel to them. The site is about as simple as you’d expect from a ‘studio’ that appears to be run by a couple of people who run the whole operation. Remember what sites looked like in the 1990s? That’s what this site looks like. Navigation is simple as it is all laid out on 28 pages of videos. Each scene has a medium-sized thumbnail which plays a gif so you can get a sense of what the scene offers. There is a search function but I didn’t find it to be accurate.
The camerawork and editing aren't up to major studio standards, but that really isn't a pro or a con, it just is. I like the amateur feel that the camerawork brings to the scenes and it isn't bad enough that it detracts from the scene or distracts the viewer unless you’re really fussy.
The site doesn’t offer any download options. You get what they offer. All of the videos are in WMV format and all of them are in 1280x720 resolution. The big variable is that the older scenes have bitrates of 1500kb/s while the newer scenes have bitrates of up to 6000kb/s. They all have a framerate of 29fps. Obviously the newer scenes look better.
The site has approximately 600+ videos. It does update but the updates aren't dated (the older ones are) so I can’t really say for sure what the update schedule is. The most recent update saw six new videos added at once and it looks like they do a bulk upload approximately once a week.
The site does offer photos but only as a standalone set. The video shoots usually don’t have a photo option and the photo sets don’t usually offer video. The site is much more heavily skewed to video so if you’re a photo collector you may want to think carefully before joining. The photos are 1200x800 so certainly not high resolution.
The bottom line? That’s sort of hard to say. Arguing against a recommendation is the fact that the site is pretty amateurish and the video quality isn't up to standard. On the pro side, however, this is some good porn in some unusual niches. I joined to get access to the older guy/younger girl scenes and these are really well done. I’m not into tickling so I can’t really comment on those but I have no reason to think that a person with a tickling fetish wouldn’t like the site as much as I do. So with the caveat that you need to know what you’re getting I’d say this is a definite recommendation if any of the fetishes are to your liking. If you’re into couples oriented artcore then you likely won’t be happy here. But if you like your dirty movies with an extra dose of dirty, you should check this site out. This site is definitely on my list to rejoin regularly. |
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08-29-15 04:42am
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1273
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Device Bondage
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pat362's Reply
Agreed. One of the reasons I avoid tube sites and gladly pay for porn is to assist the sites in staying in business and making more of it for me to buy and enjoy. In this case, they offer a premium product and are likely justified in charging a premium price.
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01-02-14 01:32pm
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Device Bondage
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pat362's Reply
I think I'm going to retract my surprise at the price increase here. Based on the information from the webmaster back in '07 and your information this sounds much more reasonable. Besides, I've paid $65 for a membership to Infernal Restraints and still found that to be a fair value.
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01-01-14 07:39am
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Device Bondage
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