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| 12-18-09 03:49am - 5267 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Colm4 (0)
Active User  Posts: 117 Registered: Sep 22, '07 Location: Holland |
Do these girls know the concequences? This is something I'm wondering for some time now; Do all these girls who, sometimes even just once, know the concequences of doing porn? Some years ago, I saw a clip where this girl wanted to become a child psychologist. I mean, what chance will she have when they find out she did porn? Ofcourse she's not advertising it, but these girls are with face frontal on dvd boxes and may be recognized at some point. You never hear of stories of what big problems it gives them either in their career or their social life (recognized on the streets etc.). I don't know, I just feel sorry for her when I see a 1-time girl and just think 'why are you doing this at all?'. For some money or trying it as a new experience? Don't you know your face will be online for all eternity? | |
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| 12-18-09 09:51am - 5267 days | #2 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I suppose there are so many doing it, the chances of being remembered let alone recognised are pretty slim TBH :0/ Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 12-18-09 11:27am - 5267 days | #3 | |
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Cpmx54 (0)
Active User Posts: 42 Registered: Oct 09, '09 Location: USA |
An 18 year old isn't likely to consider the consequences of what they're doing. Which in many ways, adds to the excitement of watching a girl do what she does on camera. This is why they're are so many "Innocent Teens" themed porn sites out there.. Given the sheer volume of girls doing it, plus the fact that so many of these girls look the same, not to mention so many girls you see these days dressing like sluts (ie. porn stars), it's hard to imagine they'd be easily recognized. Unless of course they're a really big name.. about 4 years ago I saw Planet Katie at a Walmart. I was convinced it wasn't her, but she had the "heartbreaker" tattoo on her lowerback, with the 2 red hearts hearts and everything. So, you never know... | |
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| 12-18-09 11:59am - 5267 days | #4 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I don't know how big of a stigma there is for a girl doing porn. Back in the 1960s the stigma would have been huge. But this is 2009, and in the United States, the "sexual revolution" of the 1960s and 1970s changed the attitudes of many people as to what is allowed or socially acceptable. I'm not saying that some people won't criticize people in porn, but it's no longer as big a deal as it was back in the 1960s, when a girl being in porn meant she was a slut, whore or worse, as far as many people were concerned. Edited on Dec 18, 2009, 04:59pm | |
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| 12-18-09 12:06pm - 5267 days | #5 | |
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atrapat (0)
Active User  Posts: 182 Registered: Apr 19, '08 Location: Non-USA |
What about the guys? They get less exposure but, on average, they do much more movies than the girls so they also end up being recognizable. There's an audio interview with legendary porn actor Kyle Stone where, if I remember rightly, he says he tried at one point to get a regular job but he couldn't because of his past. | |
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| 12-18-09 05:10pm - 5266 days | #6 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
One thing you have to recognize is that most porn performers have a thick skin. It's part of the job. If they didn't have a thick skin, they couldn't stay in the business. I realize that some porn performers do have regrets/psychological issues and end up killing themselves, but that is true of many other jobs as well, it's part of the human condition. My impression (with no solid evidence or statistics to back this up) is that porn stars/actors/performers need a thick skin. As far as being in porn barring a male or female from a regular job, I think that would be a minority issue. If a girl was a Playboy playmate, or a Penthouse pet, would that bar her from a regular job? I don't think so. Most playmates and pets try to get work as models, which might last a few years, or try to be an actress (very few playmates or pets made it beyond a few very minor roles in mainstream movies). But I don't think there is any stigma that bars these girls from a regular job. Or bars the guys from a regular job. | |
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| 12-18-09 05:35pm - 5266 days | #7 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
This isn't really indicative of very much. But Sylvester Stallone got his start in acting as the lead in a porn movie called Party at Kitty and Stud's. This was in 1970. Stallone hit it big in 1976 with Rocky, which made him a superstar. Marilyn Monroe was rumored to be in at least one stag film (porn films were called stag films many years ago). Experts argue for and against Marilyn Monroe appearing in stag films. The most likely one she might have been in was made around 1948. But positively identifying the actress in the stag film is not possible; the actress looks like Marilyn Monroe, but no one can say for sure if it's really her or not. Being in porn back in the 1960s and earlier was extremely stigmatic. But in today's world, people like Paris Hilton and Pamela Anderson can have sex tapes shown on the internet, and it can actually boost their careers. | |
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| 12-18-09 06:43pm - 5266 days | #8 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
What careers, and where? I guess by a certain stretch of the imagination you could classify Pamela Anderson as a professional "actress" but she hasn't exactly done porn, just lots of jiggle-oriented crappy television. Paris Hilton is...Paris Hilton. Besides being an heiress and a professional partygoer, what career did she have to begin with? I have way more respect for pretty much any porn model compared to what Paris is/'does' as most girls in porn have at least earned their own money, and were not simply born with it. Does Paris know the consequences of her actions? As far as girls who just get into porn for one or two videos or sites, who's to say if there really is a stigma attached. Maybe from mainstream Hollywood, but much of the U.S. is becoming open-minded about such things and is probably more concerned about their drunken party pics on Facebook than a possible appearance in a porn video. It's definitely got to make for some awkward interviews; what is the employer doing looking up porn, and what is the applicant doing in it? I would definitely ask to see a portfolio! ;) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Dec 18, 2009, 07:07pm | |
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| 12-18-09 06:49pm - 5266 days | #9 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
No offense to Walmart shoppers, but if I saw my favorite actress in a Walmart I would not want to see anymore of her work or maybe anymore porn for a while. Ugh. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 12-18-09 07:07pm - 5266 days | #10 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
One of the big problems with most young people is that they aren't overly conscious of consequences. We pretty much all suffer from it but some of us are luckier than some and our indescretions are never discovered or weren't too serious. Another important thing can be parental interference. Some of us did listen to our parents and avoided doing really stupid things. That is less common these days because parents would rather be friends or pals with their children and forgo the parental resposibility that comes with giving birth. Now enough ranting on the lack of parental guidance in todays world. How many girls are there that decide to do porn once or more that came straight off the street with no background in nude photography, stripping or prostitution? I suspect that there are some but they would be in the minority. You don't wake up one morning and want to do porn. The question has often been asked when it comes to former pornstars. What do you do after porn? Can you have a career outside of porn? I don't believe that most of them can have a normal career and I don't think it's necessarily because of the porn. The fact is that quite a few mainstream stars have a hard time dealing with the real world once their str has faded. I think that most remain within the community doin behind the scene work. I can think of a single girl that has done porn and was able to have a successful career doing something else. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 12-18-09 08:00pm - 5266 days | #11 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
How bizarre! Where should porn performers shop? It's not that uncommon for guys shopping in big box stores in the SF Valley (porn central) to run into all kind of porn stars from newbies to Jenna Haze in Walmart, Best Buy, etc. | |
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| 12-18-09 08:06pm - 5266 days | #12 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Seymour Butts got into this "consequences" issue quite a bit in his Family Business series. I remember one episode where a relative of a friend of the family wanted to get into porn so he was asked to dis-abuse her of the notion. He took her to a low-budget motel room shoot and various places, but she was pretty starry-eyed about the whole thing. He got into the whole "telling the family" thing, saying "Someone's going to see it if you do it. So if you can't tell them about it, don't do it." As far as porn performers losing the ability to do normal jobs, that seems rather far-fetched. For one thing, there is so much make-up and styling going on in porn that when I see pics of porn performers at industry events, I find that I recognize very few of them being even that dolled up - and if they were just out in the world without any particular porno styling, I'm sure that there are even less that I'd recognize. | |
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| 12-18-09 09:39pm - 5266 days | #13 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Lol, thanks! Where I'm from--far from the SF Valley--most of the shoppers at Walmart (though usually not Best Buy) are the last people I would ever want to see in porn. Sorry, but that's just my personal taste. Now, if I ran into people who looked like they were in porn then I might adjust my thinking. Target on the other hand... "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 12-19-09 12:29am - 5266 days | #14 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Turboshaft, so what you're saying (loosely translated) is that Target customers are a better class of people than Wal-mart customers? Classier, and better looking. I used to think that Wal-mart was a cheapie store, even though I had never been in one. But since the 1990s, 3 large Wal-mart stores have moved into my local area, and I find that the prices at Wal-mart are often lower than what you pay at other stores like Target or supermarkets. So I am now a Wal-mart customer, and I don't feel that I am lower-class because of it. However, I do agree that the customers at Best-buy and Target are, in general, wealthier than the average customer at Wal-mart. They also dress better. OK, I think I understand where you're coming from. It just sounded a little snobbish that you reject Wal-mart as a source of future porn stars. I live a lot closer to the SF Valley than PinkPanther, but I haven't really looked around the area to see how many porn stars I could find. I probably wouldn't recognize them anyway, even if they knocked me over. I met Justine Jolie at a Glamourcon convention (sponsored by Playboy) one year, spoke with her briefly, and I kept looking at her, because she seemed familiar from somewhere. It was only later, after I went home, that I realized who she was. I wasn't drunk, but my brain sure wasn't working at top speed that day. | |
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| 12-19-09 01:17am - 5266 days | #15 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Wow. "Save money, live better. Walmart." If I met up with Jenna Haze in the bedding section, I'd start having much more positive thoughts about Walmart, which is probably America's Number 1 Corporate Slimeball. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 12-19-09 02:10am - 5266 days | #16 | |
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hodayathink (0)
Active User Posts: 312 Registered: Mar 27, '09 Location: Illinois |
The Tommy Lee tape. As to the question, the only job I can see being a porn performer barring someone from getting is a job that requires being the public face for something, and probably mainstream acting jobs. If I were in porn and a great programmer, I don't think a company wouldn't hire me in their IT department because I did porn. And from what I've seen, yes, a lot of porn performers go behind the scenes after their career is over (especially the more famous ones). | |
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| 12-19-09 11:45am - 5266 days | #17 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Personally I wouldn't classify a stolen sex tape as porn, since I presume it wasn't met for an audience beyond her and Tommy (okay, and the rest of Mötley Crüe), and it didn't really hurt her career either. Same thing with Paris' night vision sex video--not really porn, but I guess they ended up that way. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 12-19-09 12:05pm - 5266 days | #18 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Uh oh, I should have known I would unleash the wrath of the Walmart. :) I was trying to be a little humorous with the Target remark, but I guess I fucked that one up. But let me be clear: I do not think anyone is a better class than anyone else, especially not based on wherever the hell one chooses to shop. Trust me, where I am from there is more than enough consumerist classism to go around and I have dealt with plenty of assholes who view the world through the prism of what stores people shop at. The big box stores are pretty open-minded; they serve whoever and whenever. Don't expect that treatment at higher-end 'exclusive' retailers who care just as much about who they sell to as anything else, if not more so. So no, again, I was not saying one store's customers were a "better class" than another store's, but that doesn't mean I want to see them in porn either. Target does seem to attract more younger customers (at least female ones) than Walmart (and at least in the ones I go to), which is a big plus in my perverted book, but do people really look that attractive when they're shopping anyway? (Uh oh, new niche being thought up...) Also, lk2fireone, isn't "often lower than what you pay at other stores" the same as "cheapie"? That's not necessarily a bad thing, and it is why I shop there (plus the generally better selection) but I was just wondering. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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