I signed up to this site thinking i was gonna get access to wowgirls and wowporn. But I have to be a Diamond member. Is there anyway to switch my membership to Wowgirls?
My guess is bandwidth more than camera quality, a mediocre (SD) webcam is quite cheap, and most laptops come with something better than that anyways (mine has HD for some reason).
Interesting, I tried them a couple of times, but the video quality was quite poor, and cam stuff generally isn't my thing. Perhaps I should try again at some point (they also seem to always only be on at like noon my time)
Based on your information I might take a risk and join. I looked for the comment on getting network access after two months but I can't find it. I also can't find any 'contact us' link on the sites - not that they'd be likely to answer anyway...
First, thank you for that huge compliment regarding my reviews. It is particularly gratifying coming from you, who have so many well argued and balanced contributions on PU.
I would be prepared to write a review of any Diesel site but I think it would be unfair to do it now and base it around a rewrite of my current comments. This is because my actual membership was in January and so is nearly five months ago. This is within the time limit allowed by the rules but the webmaster says (in his posted replies on PU) he has made and is making improvements to the still photography, having recognised its present shortcomings. I think that before I write a formal review with a score in its headline, it is only fair to give him a chance to deliver on that. Based on what you describe here, I am sceptical of the likelihood of that but I feel that allowing a further six months or so for it to occur would be fairer and more useful than my jumping in now. I agree that, given my tastes, it is likely that any Diesel site would take a very long time to build up much photo content that pleases me. Of course, that means potentially being disappointed with what I get for my membership fee but I would feel even more reluctant to sign up now, when I think I could almost guarantee disappointment. In any case, I would be likely to score the site above its personal worth to me. And I would do that to a greater degree if the webmaster were to modify his tour so that it better represented the content in a less extravagant manner.
You ask: "So when you give Metart a 90s score, do you mean that represents your personal satisfaction with the site? Or do you mean, instead, that is your "professional reviewer's" opinion of the site, apart from your own enjoyment?"
I mean the latter. MetArt is absolutely clear in its aims; and its style is abundantly clear before signup. It has a tour which shows every cover they have on the site. It has glossy and professional photography which is amongst the best in its niche and it is a large site with no download restrictions and full download manager support. So I feel I could not deny it a 90s rating even though glossy and professional is not what I want, so that its content is worth closer to around 82 for me personally.
Like you, I also find it hard to achieve this objective scoring. I think it is actually impossible completely to override personal satisfaction. If this were feasible, there would be no need for more than one review in order to establish a score.
You say: "My tastes are different from yours, but you've talked me into a ATK Galleria membership in the near future."
That is fine and I think you would enjoy it but I was not trying to talk you into it, despite my enthusiasm.
You say: "I am looking forward to reading your future reviews."
Thank you. One of those reviews will be for ATK Galleria in the next two weeks. I am hoping to do KarupsHA too around the same time.
Thank you for the approval of my three reviews. I shall shortly be adding reviews of KarupsHA and ATKGalleria as I now have current memberships to both.
I noticed the AdultLabs content at Diesel. I was already very familiar with AdultLabs content and their site. TeenDreams have a lot of AdultLabs content, including all that I later saw on Diesel. As content providers go, I think AdultLabs are pretty good but I already have it from TeenDreams!
As for my preference - "What I want is for the model to look like she wants to rip my clothes off." - well there is plenty of that on ATK, Karups and SuburbanAmateurs. I keep returning to ATK and Karups as they keep delivering. I love the Russian and Eastern European models. ATK do not get many of them. Karups get hardly more than ATK. Nubiles get some but they are "doing things". WeAreHairy have a few too.
I was hoping Diesel might offer a good source of those Russian/Ukrainian hotties in high quality but non glossy style but not doing things. Perhaps part of my problem is that I have joined so many sites that I have seen a lot of their models before and the Diesel content was no better. If I had never seen them, and wanted video, there is probably no better site on the net for collecting them all together.
I think Diesel could help themselves by giving access to their whole model directory in their tour, rather than a one page teaser with every alphabet letter link going straight to a join page. Also, if they claim such great pictures, how about some full size samples in the tour?
It is only through the great review and answers to questions that you have just done that we can find out anything significant about the Diesel network. Their tour is nothing but empty hype. In fact, if it had not been for the favourable reviews on PU, I would have run a mile from that tour. I am not saying the Diesel sites are empty, just that the tour has no content (for a photo enthusiast). It is not unique in having an empty tour and there are very many with worse ones too. But it is the sort of tour that makes me very suspicious of finding anything worthwhile inside.
In summary, I would still be prepared to give Diesel another chance by signing up in 6 months to a year from now. I would go in with open eyes, expecting to be very disappointed again but still probably worth a punt of a month's subscription.
I would not argue with your score. It would be justified by the video content, especially if Diesel stopped claiming to be anything other than a video network until they have a substantial amount of photo content. Or they could offer a cheap membership giving access only to photos. I would sign up for that. I do not expect a site to be best in all areas. What irritates me is when it claims to be so but only delivers in one.
That quote from your earlier review is a good summary of why I found the Diesel photos so boring when I was a member in January 2012. I think a lot of the lack of sex appeal is because the photographer seemed to have no idea of how to engage and commit the model. So they just looked like they were going about their daily life (with or without clothes on)or simply being goofy. I was hoping for better things in the material added in the last few months.
I have had memberships to MyPreciousVirgins (by which time MPV included all the TeenStarsMagazine content). MPV has some good photos but so few that you can find all of them within a week of joining. The model they call Mickey is a favourite of mine. She is Natasha (not Nata) at Averotica.
You have clarified that the girls at Diesel are mainly "doing things", I think. Remember I was a member myself of the whole Diesel network in January this year, so really I was wondering if there were any significant changes since then. Seems like the girls are still "doing things". "Doing things" means stuffing fingers or toys in their pussies or playing around with other girls, or boys, none of which appeals to me. Neither does the METArt style of looking vacant while not touching themselves sexually. I was hoping for some explicit pink shots (using fingers to spread pussy but without insertions). Photographers call that "US Magazine level" in distinction from "UK Magazine level", which has open leg but not pink shots, and from "Continental level", which includes insertions and masturbation.
I looked carefully for US Magazine level shots on Diesel but found almost nothing. I do not really want glossy photos or girls "doing things". Sometimes, in a photo set of a girl "doing things", the first half of the photo set, before she inserts anything, can still be great. SuburbanAmateurs are good at that.
Wow,wow,wow! Your reply to my questions is a review in itself. And it tells me exactly what I wanted to know in more detail than I could have reasonably expected. You are a star for going to so much trouble and I thank you warmly.
There is another reason videos do nothing for me and it is more important than all the ones you mention, though I agree with all of those too.
The main reason is that, in a video, I have no control over what view to linger on and no way to exclude the views that get in the way of enjoyment. It is not just a matter of pace but that is part of it too. In a photo series, I can delete the images I do not like, view a series as a slide show, pause on favourite shots.
I love open leg pink shots with finger spreading but I must have the face in view and in focus at the same time. Once the camera zooms to a body part and loses the face, I lose interest. I delete all the zoom shots from photo series but it is a real pain to go through a video editing all those out! And once I see a spread shot photo with a facial expression I like, I will want to view it for minutes at a time. Video pauses do not work well.
Hence, however good a video is, it simply cannot please me like a photo series.
I like MetArt and Femjoy though, for me, the best site is ATK Galleria, by quite some margin, so I would score MetArt and Galleria both in the mid to high 90s. I find the shoots on MetArt do not have the model sufficiently engaged, involved, aroused. Similarly for Femjoy but both sites have some gems. Rosalia on Femjoy (=Polly A on MetArt) and Sarah on Femjoy each justify a membership all by themselves. But it is on ATK Galleria that I find the most consistent chance of encountering models who look sexy and not merely beautiful.
All the photos I saw on Diesel had models looking like in snapshots, as you say. I shall comment more in my reply to your Msg #7, where you go into more detail regarding the Diesel photo style.
It also did rather irritate me how 18OnlyGirls and YoungLegalPorn are basically one site split into two for no obvious reason other than revenue. At least networks like Karups and ATK have divided their content between sites in a manner which is logical and comprehensible and they are large enough to have no problem justifying a split. Galleria, for example, is bigger than MET and Nubiles combined.
Excellent review, giving a clear view of how you felt about the site. Particularly interesting to me because I know you have always been more of a pix than vids guy.
I want to ask a couple of questions about the pics because I was hugely disappointed with this site when I was a member in January of this year, owing to its heavy bias towards video.
You say the newer pics compare to MET or MPL. Are they similar in style to those sites then? I would characterise those sites as very polished, professionally posed, emphasising beauty more than sexuality. I tend to find their images beautiful but not very exciting and look at hardly anything I downloaded from MPL. Are the later pics on this site in a similar style to those or are they more "amateur" towards the Karups, ATK style?
Are they doing multiple photo sets per girl or is it more of a one or two sets per girl kind of a site (like Pretty4Ever)?
Do photo sets tend to have toys/masturbation themes?
I realise it may be too soon to answer these questions. In January, I found it had almost nothing to offer for my photo tastes but it is definitely a site to watch and perhaps tentatively join in 6 months to a year if it continues to improve its photo content.
Great review, and really good to see such constructive 'cons' - hopefully if the webmaster reads your review they'll realise just a few tweeks will make this a 100/100 website
I think all porn sites should show the new updates, I know it might be a bit of hassle but for lots or porn users who join sites every so often its great to see what new vids are there and is a major reason for me to click join again if I get to see exactly what I can find on the site. 21st sextury have a great new feature that you can still navigate the site after your membership is over and get to see all the new juicy updates to see if you wanna buy a single scene or join again.
Yeah, I don't mind photoshopping that much, it is certainly super common, particular on the art nude sites. it is just odd to see it and then it disappears, then see it again. Its sort of half-assed photoshopping, and distracts me for some reason.
I became finally a member.
There's a complex system of log in, that bring you in a well done site.
Good surfing, good search system, good indexes, discrete download speed, but without dwn managers. They can'work with this site.
I've Orbit Downloader (that work with every site, but not with this site).
What about the site: good model, good scene, but the best scenes aren'exclusive (I think they lease from TeenMegaWord, SmackMyBitch,...)
A lot of lesbian scenes and a lot of solo...
I think you'll be a member at least for 1 month, not more.
glad you don't hate it, man. I was fearing your wrath!
did you join the network or just 18onlygirls? there was something when i joined about getting free access to an additional site, but since i joined the network this didn't apply to me.
Thanks for the fine/informative reply...I agree about the models - I still find that you could get a better deal at that Teen Mega World (with the same models and better quality) - but then again - I have not been at this one for almost a year now...anyway: maybe we'll see a review from you...?
To each their own, I suppose. I also read Denner's review, and I agree with many of his cons for the site, browsing photos on the site is a nuisance, although I usually just check a couple and download the zip if it looks good so this didn't bother me. This site and Youngporn.net share a lot of the same content, especially with older material, however newer updates appear to be released seperately on each site. I am not sure why they don't just merge the two given the large amount of overlap.
I think most of their newer content has been good to me, I hope you like it if you join, I don't need any more enemies!
I am fan of the girls even though I have some issues with the way the people who run the site(s) conduct their business. My suggestion is if you have been a member of either 18 Only Girls or Young Legal Porn recently, don't bother with the other. They tend to share content across sites.
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