Could you explain in more detail exactly what happened, in terms of your membership?
What length membership did you first join for?
2-day trial
1 month non-recurring
monthly, recurring
The $24.95 charge you are talking about, is for what, exactly:
A 30 day membership, the first one
An additional 30 day membership
A different membership period
It's easy to get angry about extra charges, but I think you will be better off if you make clear, in your email to support or billing, the details of why you believe you were overcharged.
If you don't get satisfaction from support or billing, you can have your credit card company reverse the excess charge.
But it really helps if you explain simply to whoever you are talking to the details of what went wrong.
But I personally agree 100% that you should be entitled to the prices at the page you originally used to sign up.
Edit: A side note: Unless the PU page directly applies to the problem, you're better off leaving out any mention of PU in your complaint. That just adds confusing and un-needed details to the problem.
Depends...for all sites. (On a side, I only deal with WMV. I mever download MP4, MPG or AVI if WMV is available)
With VideoBox, if they are adding some old movie from the 1980's, then it doesnt matter what bitrate they use, it is going to look like junk. Just ask George Lucas.
With newer movies from DVD's the quality looks ok, although my view of the quality is a bit on the low side because I really dont go with the 640x480 resolution, it is just too big for how much I download and how much space I have - I stick with the 480x352 resolution.
The HD movies on VideoBox are a travesty with anything lower than the 480p resolution. The 480p is widescreen, 720x480, which is 16:9, but everything lower is widescreen squeezed into standard def, so it looks terrible. Without a program like VLC, which can force 16:9 aspect ratio, you are stuck with watching squeezed video.
Brazzers is good. All 640x480. I dont think they put out HD video yet. Reality Kings are good too. 1k and 2k bitrates are 720x540 which is definitely better than stretching 640x480 to 720x480. Not sure if the real resolution is 640x480 which was stretched to 720x540, or if the real resolution is 720x540. I'm leaning towards the former (because the video appears to have that pixelated effect to it) but it looks good none the less. The 512 bitrate vids are 480x360, which are the ones I download.
When a site offers different qualities I usually go with the medium one, problem is that NA keeps the medium resolution at the same as the high, just varying the bitrate, so the file size is still rather large, so I go with the low res 480x360 (which is what I would otherwise consider as "medium". I consider "low" to be 320x240).
As long as the videos don't look downright BLURRY or are only available in sub 360p resolutions then I'm happy.
Hi, when I compare the movies I have from Braz and NA, they look about the same IMO, at least NA's don't look worse. NA's best are in 2K 720x540 and the ones from Braz I have are 1.3K 640x480, can't remember if Braz offer higher bit-rates than that.
When you talk about "quality" what are you talking about?
Video quality (e.g. resolution, bitrate, sound quality)?
Acting quality (i.e. believable acting which makes the scene hot)?
Production quality (e.g. good location, good wardrobe, good makeup, etc.)?
Sex acts (e.g. type of sex, too much of one type of action or lack thereof, etc.)?
On another note, before I decided upon the "100" rating, I went through every previous review and read all the cons from everyone to make sure that a) i didn't miss something negative about the site, and b) the cons from other people were not legitimate things that would detract from enjoyment of the site. Seeing as I found neither, I went ahead with the "100" rating.
I review sites based on the appeal to a generic user...i.e. "[Some person] has $25 in [his/her] hand, and [he/she] wants to buy access to a porn site for a month. What is the site that will give the person the most porn enjoyment for the money?"
When I ask that question to myself, I answer that Naughty America will do a better job for some old joe who knows no better, who just wants appealing porn.
VideoBox is sure to bring enjoyment to a lot of people, but it is just not great for making porn appealing to average joes.
When I speak to people about porn (in the real life and on the net), all they know about is BangBros, Brazzers, Reality Kings, and Naughty America (more weighted towards to the first and second named). Nobody ever mentions VideoBox or VideosZ. This is because VB and VZ, while awesome sites themselves, dont make their porn all that appealing to average joes - they are awesome sites which seem to be more for the more porn-technical users who are a little more, shall we say, invested (cant think of a better word) in porn. NA, Braz, RK, BB are these more "fun" sites that make their material appealing.
The best comparison I can give you is IMDB and Yahoo! Movies. Yahoo! Movies makes the movies and the content very appealing, it is a very fun site to use. But IMDB is more of a brute way to the movie database sites that does everything right when handling movie information. IMDB is a better site overall for what I need, but for the average joe Yahoo! Movies is better.
Its the same way I feel about VB/VZ vs NA/Braz/RK/BB. VB and VZ are better sites for what I need, but for generic ol' joes, who make up more than 90% of the porn members, NA/Braz/RK/BB are generally better options.
What makes NA better than Brazzers and Reality Kings and Bang Bros is rather simple:
1) no ads on the MEMBERS page (i point this out because Braz has ads on their members page)
2) better site search (as commented on in my review. this is the best site search on a porn site ive ever seen, hands down)
3) better layout (when compared to RK at least)
4) better variety (when compared to Braz at least)
5) I find NA's site easier and more fun to use than RK (by a lot), BB (by a lot), and Braz (only marginally).
When compared to say, VideoBox where does NA excel?
1) site search, as mentioned above
2) they make the updates more appealing (when I am being turned on by the updates with 40+ females the site must be doing something right. This point also applies to Brazzers, RK and BB as well)
3) No tranny updates (videobox has a gay site, yet they continue to post guy-on-tranny movies on the straight site)
4) No JAV or asian updates (NA/Braz/RK/BB are strictly american girls. Asian is nice from time to time, but not the asian crap that I occasionally see on videobox)
5) No hentai (only a few vids, but they are there)
6) No stupid 480x352 resolution. 480x360 PLEASE!
7) NA/Braz/RK/BB NEVER get actress names wrong, where as VideoBox routinely does.
Well for MY needs, I prefer VideoBox over all other sites. I'm interested in collecting content (old, new, etc.) from my favorite girls, and that ain't gonna cut it with reality-100%-exclusive sites like Naughty America or Brazzers.
But when I rate sites, I look at it for some person who doesn't really give a crap about finding girls they want, rather for a person who is looking to sign up for a porn site, find some shit they like, and have no problem enjoying it and have no problem finding it because of a bad site. Both NA and Brazzers fit the model, with the only major difference are the 5 i mentioned in the "Bottom Line" (no ads, better search, etc.).
This is not to say that people will have trouble finding good stuff on VideoBox, just its so much more fun on Naughty America. VideoBox, when compared to these reality sites, seems like this brute listing of DVD's where as NA and Braz make everything so appealing, which is something that generic users will prefer. And this is the reason that I rate NA 100, Braz 98 and VideoBox 95.
>> badandy400 said: "You kinda should have put this as a reply to the comment you are reply to. This way people do not wonder what you are talking about, or have to dig for the comment you are replying to."
That is very true ... and had you and the poster not have generated an exchange of unrelated info, I'd have asked him to post it where it belonged.
;)
Please do. I suspect that PU members not joining won't hurt them all that much, but maybe the lack of subscribers from here might cause them to rethink this. At the very least I hope this will save other PU members from getting sucked in like I did.
Looks like I got it wrong. Sorry about misleading you too :( I asked ccbill and they said that it's a regular monthly membership which you can cancel at any time; "12 times" only means that you would be rebilled UP TO 12 times so you would have to sign up again after one year. Weird rebilling (why not make it just "recurring"?) but not sleazy.
I've edited my initial comment to include ccbill's reply.
As I said in my initial comment, no complaint about the content. I'll add that it's quite well organized. As the rebilling is not a real issue, I'd still recommend it to anyone interested in Nikki Benz.
Badandy,
We have been doing the 1280 x 720 videos for about 2 years now. We work with 30-40 different photographers so it has taken awhile to get them all HD cameras. Almost all new content is now offered in this form. If you check our tour and the recent girls profiles, Candice, Isabella example you can download the HD WMVs samples. I would be interested in your opinion of the quality of these.
badandy400,
I think the quality of video is a great debate to have. Our HD WMVs come out of the camera at 1440 x 1080 in size and we skrink it down to 1280 x 720 (16:9 format)and encode them at 3500 kb/s. Other sites are shooting at 1440 x 1080 then they BLOW Up the size to 1920 x 1080, its not a true 1920 x 1080, its blown up to that size but at least thats 16:9 and not 4:3.
Now as an example this guy is saying FTV girls. If you look at his sample page he has a 8000kb/s sample wmv to download. I tested it out. The footage is 1440 x 1080 what the camera shoots but he doesn't change the size down to 1280 x 720 screen or up to 1920. So he is relying on the video player to resize it. In my windows media player resizes to fit my screen. But in my other video players this sample is squished because he encoded it at 4:3 resolution size.
Now as example if you look at our hd wmv sample of a recent girl, say Candice. You will see the quality is actually much better then this FTV sample. Less artifacting, less blurryness. Compare them side by side. Candice vs. his 8000kbs sample on his tour.
We can look at blowing it up to 1920 x 1080, not sure it will look any better. Most cameras are not shooting at this level, we have a few that do but not enough to be universal. We can increase the bitrate higher but why is our 3500kb/s less artifacting then FTVs 8000 kb/s and then the files will be extremely HUGE. Maybe its just a issue of lighting and camera operator and camera model. We have many photographers so tons of levels of quality where FTV is consistent as its one guy.
Most porn producers are using Sony FX1s or the Canon Equivalent. Those shoot at 1440 x 1080. We have a few Sony EX1 which shoot at 1920x1080 footage. I think technology needs to improve some, however I am going to look into testing some new codecs and experiments.
well I've been a member at FTVGirls, 18closeup, givemepink, asstraffic and these sites all have amazing high def clips in 1080 with bitrates as high as 8000Kb/s. But what was my biggest problem was that Nubiles' videos were so... unsurprising
Im about to join this site for the second time. Last time I went there was when the site was starting, so the content was not that good. But after reading your review, im really interrested in re-joining.
I would like to know what program/method you are using to download the whole website to your hard drive, if you don't mind, just e-mail me :)
Actually, though the name might seem to imply a fondness for messy stuff, it practically states on its own that the "goop" in question is, er, generated autonomously.
So you like it a little less on the tidy side of the porn spectrum? S'Ok with me. Sounds the makings of fun parody song, using that one by Dave Mason, "It's only you and me and we just disagree." It would be accepted on whatfreaks.com.
Have you looked at Clara G's site? Sounds like it would be right up your alley.
Just a quick note - the $44.95 was for all of their sites - OT, OnlyOpaques, Carla, and Melanie, and OnlySecretaries.
There was not a time when they had all of this content together for $29.95 or similar. For several years - the Carla and Melanie sites were separate. Opaques is new in the past few years. Only Onlytease.com was the original site.
This is actually a pretty decent deal for the amount of content - it's thousands of videos and photoshoots.
Agree!
And it seems like a new trend mastered by, yes: CCBill - it looks like they have ongoing speculations in getting more money out of members/costumers.
Just got a long mail from the webmaster of Nubiles where he explains the trend. (I'll put it on the thread about Currency, but promised to wait till I got an ok from the man - and It's not only about diffenrent currencies)...
I honestly think CCBill goes for one thing at the moment: Getting more money out of costumers of porn sites to the benefit of both site-owners and CCBill....
Have you tried to join via alternative billing, like Epoch?
Hi well it was a nice idea, but even queing the DL which it will do gives the same error. I have to say this is going to affect my review, only because support ackowledges its what happens.
F*ckin sites. And they worry about ppl bootlegging, umm how about screwing paid customers with out saying oh hey the site is only 29.95 but by the way unless you sit in front of yoyr pc 24 /7 you will never get to all the donloads. Ya i'm pissed, but will try not to let it affect my review too much. I have been getting allot of crap from sites lately.
Wont allow me to go back and even get a link it stall on page saying
Service Temporarily Unavailable
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
This just happend after one download only.
cant even attempt 2. So cant even get to a page to que them LOL.
Support says yep that what happens the seem to acknoledge that the site does this not sure why its working for according to the email from them it shouldnt.
I have contacted support they told me 3 was max and that included the 2 from download one file huh? and then if I surf it closes because the link will change. Its only their sites that do it . Tried firefox and the alike and even tried the no dl manager of course same issue. Again just their network. I really hate when sites do that limit crap. I like how they do not tell you that until they get your cash. I have tried other pc's just in case no luck. If you get 8 awsome. But support says three is max. and I can only get one. My setting are at 10 and 20 respectfully on my pc I adjust to just 2 or 3 etc and no luck. Even so being its dl limited I will avoid this site in the future.
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