Excellent review.
Certainly one of the best this week.
Covers overview of the site, plus a lot of fine details.
You seem to think clearly, and that comes through in the review.
So the review is not only informative, but enjoyable to read.
Interesting divide between romance and lust: the difference seems to blur in some of the early X-Art videos, which seemed to show more passion or heat.
I would never suggest you change your score or anything else about the review. You are actually one of my favorite reviewers because I can tell they are heartfelt. As for Abby Winters, the blog post doesn't say they will stop updating - they said they will stop doing new photo or video shoots. I'm sure at the time they still had stuff in the archives they could roll out, although I am surprised that 2 years later they are still adding stuff. And at the rate of 1 update a week, they can probably keep going for a while, depending on their backlog.
Anyway you talked me into signing up, and I'm loving what I'm seeing so far.
One thing to mention is on the home page, if you scroll down a bit, there will always be some kind of coupon code available for use. The code changes every 24 hours. I saw one that said get a free month when you buy a sub, so I now have a 2 month subscription.
Sorry if you are unaware KayT, but I'd make sure to download everything you want while you still can. From their forums:
"Sunsetting abbywinters.com
28 June 2023, 10:26 PM
We recently made the difficult decision to stop making new shoots. This is for a few reasons;
Lack of profitability: In the last year we made a significant financial loss, and the next 12 months are looking similar. We had a few projects in the pipeline to increase our sales, but I am not confident they are enough. Unfortunately, some have been cancelled now (though the new Tour is going ahead).
Lack of the right models: We never properly recovered from moving to Europe in 2010. The loss of our backbone of regular Australian models is what we built our reputation on. I think we (and especially the models) did a good job over the last 13 years, but we’re finding it harder and harder to find the “right” models every month.
Time for a change for Garion: It’s been 23 years now, and I don’t look forward to abbywinters.com work like I used to.
We have a bunch of shoots made but not yet released, that we’ll be releasing over the next year or so, at a reduced update schedule or two releases per week from July 1 2023 (we’ve added a note to the signup page, so it’s clear to new subscribers)."
It's a pity, I was strongly considering joining up.
Nice review. Are they back to Australia? That's where they started out, and I loved the site back then, but at some point they moved to Europe and the feel of the site changed a lot, so I haven't joined in years. Their "contact us" lists an address in The Netherlands.
Back in the day, my favorite part was the number of girls who gave off the "I can't believe I'm doing this" vibe, and it was quite charming.
Your comment about the prettiest pussy made me check her out haha. Given the amount of pussies to be seen in the porn world, I got very curious after reading that
KayTBuffs, thank you for your review and insights.
Just from my brief look at the site, I can understand you statement regarding the models. I can see where the "attractiveness" may draw some in and others away. However, I will say that there should be a handful of niche sites like this and have more of a presence in the industry to help promote more positive body and sex image. I think sites like this will help people who tilt towards the negative side to change their views and help with their self image and attitudes towards sex and porn in general.
Hey, thanks for the review. Can I ask did you have any problems with payment when signing up?
The payment options dropdown menu seems broken. The more well known Epoch/Paypal, Segpay & Paysafecard aren't selectable.
Only "Pay with CC (Westbill)" works... I don't know if it's deliberate or another technical problem!
I haven't been a member of the Team Skeet sites for over 1 year.
But when I was a member, a little over 1 year ago, Dyked was part of the basic Team Skeet network, and not one of the premium sites.
Membership in a premium site, at that time, and probably still, only allows you access to the premium site, and not to the basic Team Skeet network.
I'm guessing Dyked is still part of the basic Team Skeet network.
And that you were misled when you thought it was a premium site in the Team Skeet offerings.
My apologies if you think I'm being overly picky.
Actually, in the review I wrote on the Dyked site, dated 06-06-18, I wrote the following:
'Note: when you go to the Dyked site, there is a banner stating that Dyked is a Team Skeet premium site. This is misleading. Dyked is included in the basic Team Skeet network.
They used to call the premium sites in the network "Unlock" sites. Now they call the premium sites "Upgrade Now" sites.'
Just a thought.
If you have any favorite porn models, you can enter their name in the search box, and see if they have content at this network, that might be available to you.
Try to work off a model listing at the network or one of the sites you enjoy.
It's just an idea, of how you might find content that you enjoy.
The value here is that you don't need to know what sites you have access to, the search should, hopefully, only return content from sites you have access to.
If any content is returned, just click on the thumbnail of the videos you want to watch/examine.
And that should bring up the video that you selected. And also a means of accessing any photoset associated with the video.
I just signed up for a membership this morning with 18videoz.
I haven't explored the network yet, but it's supposed to have multiple sites.
One of the sites is Sell Your GF.
The login to the network is non-secure.
Sound familiar yet?
My login details were computer generated.
Also, I had to enter my email address, when joining, on a non-secure page.
Anyway, if you still have time with your sub, you might try exploring the sites you have access to.
I don't really have a handle on your tastes, but I joined 18videoz because there are several teen sites that might be good.
I suggest trying to explore the sites you have access to, I don't know how the managers/owners slice and dice the sites you have access to with different memberships.
But you might find there are a lot of videos that you are not aware of, that you might enjoy.
I can't be more specific than that, because I don't know what specific sites you have access to.
And I'm not really sure how my membership works yet, I just signed up this morning.
If I hit the obstacles you hit, with the need to upgrade my membership, I will ask for a refund.
I paid $59.95 for a 1 year membership, that is supposed to give me access to at least 9 separate sites. I saw that joining for the same access sites costs $119.95 if I joined through a different site.
Sometimes it can make a world of difference, how you join a site or network.
But overcome your bitterness, and try to get your money's worth from the sites, since you've already paid for them. Easier said than done, because I've joined sites, and got so pissed off, that I never used them after they gave me problems.
I totally agree with you on the noise of some of those machines being distractingly loud. I'm glad they are remastering the older stuff, will have to check in to see if the sasha grey scene where she finds the secret room has been done yet.
Based on what you have described this appears to be a site that is recycling content.
I don't think that they are deleting low quality scenes. Lower video counts suggest they are remastering or maybe even just giving themselves a way to put up "new" updates.
I am glad that you like the site. i was a member a very long time ago, but never put up a review.
Thanks for your review, which I *think* is positive. You have correctly identified that we're an alternative to mainstream porn, so there is no fake moaning or cheesey stepmom scenes. If that disappoints anybody, they have definitely come to the wrong place :) But everyone eventually gets sick of fake, and comes to content like ours. (See what I did there?)
We are in fact in 4K now, and only the very early videos are 720p, we've released everything in 1920p since 2017.
The short videos you mention are bonus content :) They're pretty scenes that haven't fitted elsewhere but we want the members to enjoy them :)
Also there is no download limit but we don't permit sweeps of the site (over 6000 videos) for the cost of a 1 month sub.
U have some very good points. I suspect the member in question didn’t complain about RearAdmirals more positive review as he, just like me, didn’t see it. I may log in 5 times in 12 hours then disappear for three mths. I see no conspiracy here.
Okay, so you work daily with abused women. Clearly you are accomplishing much more in improving the human condition than what I do in my chickenshit job. But his post is not fake news: Deen has been accused by several women of abuse.
It doesn't need a 300 pound gorilla to hurt a woman during sex.
There were several reports by porn stars, a few years ago, that James Deen had been overly physical during his sex scenes, causing the female models real pain.
Amber Rayne, Stoya, Tori Lux, Kora Peters, Ashley Fires and multiple other female performers all accused Deen of using excessive force during sex scenes.
Some of the models say they used the safe word, which is supposed to be a signal to stop the action.
Which Deen totally ignored, continuing to use force, hitting the model, raping her against her will, choking her, forcing her into uncomfortable positions.
So to write that a guy doesn't look big enough to seriously hurt anyone seems naive.
Deen sailed through the accusations, saying he was "baffled" by the furor. He maintains he was innocent, and his career and popularity were never hurt.
Imagine if your state made a law requiring an ID to view adult sites and then JulesJordan just blocked your state instead of implementing a solution. This is what JJ has done. 0/100 rating.
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The women are believably into the guy masturbating for them. More direction in the scenes would help. Some of the guys stand in one spot and go to-fro-to-fro-to-fro while the woman is in the background watching and teasing him. I want to believe if a guy was brave enough to pull it out from limp to hard, he would be brave enough to at least face the sexy, teasing woman. Is it just my own fetish to say the scenes would be better if the guy inexplicably tried to get cum on the woman? I would think that would strengthen this site for straight men. I believe most men would like seeing a guy land a facial -- 3 feet away -- on a snobby, teasing woman."
Agree with this. It would be very satisfying for me to watch a scene in which she is first teasing the guy "who I imagine to be me" for a long time, and then cumming on her in the end.
I also agree about the belittling part.
My girlfriend is a lot into watching guys masturbate. I've done it on many occasions for her and to me it always feels best when facing her directly, looking in her eyes. This would also turn me on when watching porn like this. There's an interesting tension when you are clearly looking at each other and feeling a connection, but at a same time have that "distance" where the woman is clothed and looks a bit unreachable.
The belittling that often happens not only makes it unrealistic like you mention, but it takes away that tension between connection and distance. You're only left with the distance and a bit of submission.
This was an interesting review of a genre that I like. We have discussed the topic of CFNM here on PU and if you are interested I can revive the old forum thread.
The abusive CFNM sites that you don't like are targeted at gay men.
How I see it is that the other non abusive CFNM sites have a lot more of a role reversal as regards men being objectified as objects of desire. Women are empowered to see men performing for them. I can see why you would find these sites appealing.
My advice is to accept that porn does fantasy rather poorly. There are very few CFNM sites still around.
This was a nice review that I enjoyed reading. I am into CFNM and we have discussed it here on PU. If you want I can revive an old thread on it.
What I see is CFNM for straight men and CFNM for gay men. The abusive sites appeal more to gay men and they are plentiful on the internet.
For straight men I think the appeal is that the non abusive CFNM sites portray women as assertively aggressive sexually and I don't mean in a demeaning way.
In much of straight porn women are objectified as objects of desire.
I think that for anyone who likes CFNM there is pure fantasy that is incredibly unlikely, something rare in porn. In CFNM men are objectified and that does have its appeal. It is as if the roles are reversed compared to straight male porn.
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