Ah I see, I was just trying to point you in the direction to a person who just joined and could give good insight. Plus, james4096 has been very reliable in his opinions to me. I just can't believe this site would give a preview video in such shit quality for potential customers to rely upon for joining. Why would you not give your 'best of the best' in terms of quality to show off what you are producing for sales. I mean, it's borderline ridiculous and absurb IHMO. Karup's is a better known site that's been around for awhile. Plus, after reading the abbywinters thread on how much they were banking, it's honestly strange that a better known site (plus others) just can't go buy a extremely quality camera and produce quality videos these days and ages. I mean, this should just be a given and it's very disapointing. However, if you do end up joining this site, can you keep me posted on the REAL quality of the videos. I watch videos on a 42' LCD screen and I definintly am interested in this site after the shared content was posted on All Over 30 to every week to see. Take care messmer!
james4096 just did a review on this site and I trust his judgements. Check out his review and ask him a question there, I'm sure he will give you plenty of insight as to what the site can offer in more detail if you need it. This is on my list to join ever since seeing shared content on All Over 30 when I joined.
I signed up a month ago and like it. I agree with a lot of your points but not the speed issues your having. I stream the high quality flash and don't get any buffering errors or problems...so far has worked like a trooper for me.
I think your much to harsh on this site because its actually presenting a good value.
tons of positives.
Full DVD movies with scene selections
stream options and formats along with download options
a working search engine
selection by porn star and other formats
I run off my 65inch LCD tv and the flash stream meets the wide screen format of the tv.
and the ONLY reason I am still a member LOTS OF CONTENT!!! I can't get enough of the selection...so many I have not seen and many i'v seen before.+ so CHEAP! come on who else offers this selection for the price? I don't know of any...I think its the perfect gateway site for people get used to paying premium.
some negatives
i use a mac and downloads are not mac format I had to get a plug in just to view them
download speed is fine if you do 1 movie at a time if you do more it gets slower
quality of the streams are good but could be a bit better...when i stretch out the video box video its similar quality in the regular pass but if you have the premium pass then videobox is better quality. Sometimes I get glitches but i just reload the site...
oh wait! As for errors there was just one day i can think of when my account had that issue.
i guess i'm just a bit happier with my experience than you were.
I guess there's a ton I don't know about pictures.
Landscape? Is that where the girl lays out flat, or on her side, so you can determine the best way to approach her?
With the modern generation of models, it doesn't really matter if the girl is standing up, laying down, upside down, or even head down in the toilet bowl, I've seen videos where the guy(s) just start banging away whatever.
I think pictures have a bit more class than most of the videos I've seen. Some pictures can be erotic, or have a real artistic quality to them, and the models can look stunning, gorgeous, lovely, or just yummy.
Personally, I download the high-res pictures more often than the low- or medium-res, in case I want to study them for some reason. But I usually view the picture to fit the monitor. Scrolling to view a picture is not enjoyable, for me. Like I say, if I want to examine a picture for some reason, I will switch the view to scan/scroll, but to simply enjoy the picture, I want to see the entire image.
If you're not into "shaved", you're really limited by what is out there. Most models are shaved. I would prefer a trimmed look, that was popularized by Playboy back in the 1970s-1980s, but "shaved" is what's popular today.
I honestly don't know where you're getting your video fix if you're into softcore (like I am). The sites offering softcore video (that are also teen softcore) are like Met-art and Femjoy. Met-art videos are teen softcore, and they are almost uniformly boring. Gorgeous girls, but boring videos. Femjoy has softcore teen videos, that are slightly more enjoyable than Met-art, but you are watching lovely young girls, but without any sense of the erotic. The girls are lovely, but the videos are only slightly less boring than the Met-art videos. I think the main reason the Femjoy videos are less boring is that they are shorter (I'm not joking, I really think that is the main reason, but also, the Femjoy videos are somehow better shot).
I am definitely a teen glamor type. Also enjoy pix more than vids, because they are easier to deal with. So when I looked at most of the niche sites here, it was just out of curiosity. For me, the value is mainly Devilsfilm and Silverstone, which have some nice-looking young models. But I was just pointing out that for people with other tastes, for $14.95, it might be worth a look-see.
I really have little experience with most DVD sites. But this network offering is so much better than Pornaccess, which is also offered by the same company. Pornaccess was almost a total waste for me, with so many low-quality vids, unattractive models, and terrible navigation.
I just saw your review for White Ghetto. The review seems clear and sensible: "The great divide again: if you like beauty and glamor stay away, if you like rude and raw and not always pretty then I recommend this site to you."
There are a lot of PU members who want something other than teen glamor, and this network might offer it to them.
But for me, I try to find teen glamor, or at least good-looking teens, in this network.
Do you have any hints to make my search easier?
Sites I found in this network, so far, which have good-looking teen models include: Devilsfilm
Silverstone PeterNorth
I'm with wittyguy and messmer on this one. I want More quality of everything. I don't believe there is sucha surplus of great sites. If there is then I've missed them.
Hey messmer - well, I thought so too - but none of them are included as bonus-sites (my loing/password didn't work at any of them) - so I put "no bonus-sites" in cons...
This can be seen in non porn movies and shows as well :( How many times do I see something in a high school setting and all the 'kids' look like men and women in their early or mid twenties with flawless features. I guess it's just a reality in all forms of entertainment. I am surprised that naughty america and the other old n' young sites don't go and try to get male performers 'just of age'. They do this with the female stars, why not the males too? I don't see this as a problem when the male performers are supposed to be older in the same niche, they seem to do a better job and get actual older stars (dunno bout this place but in general).
Could be the result of inter-generational cross-breeding. In the new permissive society, women can date men who are either older or younger than themselves. Thus, the sons and boyfriends of their significant others could also be approximately the same age as the mothers. "If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with" mentality.
It's sometimes hard to find good porn. Too many nitpicking details get in the way of our enjoyment.
Yeah, I've never really understood why people tend to be so against change, it really doesn't make sense. But that's how it is sometimes. I hope people get over it, because I do like Naughty America as a company and would love to see them shake things up a bit. And I guess I meant to imply that mainstream porn is filled with women with fake breasts (i.e. the Vivid/Wicked/Digital Playground/Adam & Eve/etc. of the world). But there are a bunch of websites out there that aren't nearly as bad. But let me put it to you this way, Brazzers has 9 different sites dedicated exclusively to large breasts (and only one of them cares whether they are real or not):
Big Tits at Work
Big Tits at School
Big Tits in Sports
Baby's Got Boobs
Mommy's Got Boobs
Racks and Blacks
Bustyz
Busty and Real Jug Fuckers
Now I will admit that some of those sites probably don't update anymore, but that's still more than a third of their network dedicated to large breasts.
I agree with you on this one. Why can't N/A find guys that look
like college guys instead of men in their 30's playing these
student and son roles. European old/young videos do a way better
job where age play is concerned.
Honestly, I love Naughty America, but I completely agree that the biggest mark against it is that, in the end, it is the same scene over and over again with different actors and slightly different scenarios. But the problem becomes that when you get as big as they have probably gotten, your members come to expect a certain type of scene, and when you start to deviate from it, they get upset. And they get vocal about it. I can bring up two examples that apply to Naughty America in particular.
The first is when they brought out Naughty Flipside in 2007, which I would argue was their attempt at making alt-type porn. They scenes were, at worst about the same quality as their other scenes, but the members never got into it, and site only lasted for about 3 months before they stopped updating it.
The second is a lot more recent. Around late October/early November, they started to release scenes shot with a fixed-position camera (i.e. home-video style). I was a member on their forums at that point, and there was a huge outrage about it. People saying that this wasn't what they signed up for, that they hated it, etc. If you look at the reviews for those scenes, they say the same thing. So they tried to compromise by only putting the home video styles scenes on their own special category (the general Naughty America site) and having those scenes come out in addition to their normal 13 scenes shot regular style per week. But people still didn't stop complaining. They didn't stop until the producers agreed to stop doing it altogether.
So, in the end, while complacency is probably a large part of it, I think part of the problem is that the larger sites have become so big that they can't really experiment or change things up on a larger scale, because they get a backlash from the members who like things the way they are (and let's be honest, if they didn't like things the way they were, they wouldn't be members in the first place). Smaller sites have the ability to be more nimble, but when it comes to large networks, it's almost a "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.
P.S. - Also, give me a site that isn't specifically small or naturally breasted specific that isn't drowning in fake breasts. The entire porn world is drowning in fake breasts, this is just a microcosm of that. And at least they aren't as bad about it as Brazzers.
Don't worry too much about forgetting if you replied to that thread, I had the same concerns when I asked since if you did reply to it, that would mean I forgot if you replied or not!
I am making more comments than reviews these days. It is hard to believe that I only have 17 reviews since October 2008, which means I had 142 before then. I had been averaging around 12 reviews per month, now I've been reduced to not quite 3 per month.
My problem, and Drooler has talked about this too, it could also be what you are running into is that I know exactly what I want and expect from a site. I can join a new site and within 2 hours can tell you whether I love it or hate it.
Then I run into a member like GCode and he is just now getting into the Euro models and I find myself thinking I should review more based on the technical, numbers, part of the site, and like with you, my frustration with the same ol', same ol' tries to creep in and tell me to ignore those HD videos.
I've felt this way about one site especially and that is Brazzers. I joined it in January, believe it was my 5th time over the years and I honestly signed in one time and didn't go back. Even some of my favorite actresses are becoming stale to me. Kind of feels like a bad marriage in that sense!
I really wish Eve Angel's solo site hadn't become a recycling site and dropped their TBP discount of $15. I would highly recommended it to you for the eroticism she presents on that site. Some of her content on other sites isn't nearly as good. To this day, I still watch her videos from her original site more than all other videos combined. She is just playful enough, just tease enough to make her different than the majority of models and most of all, she somehow was able to produce over 250 videos on that site of her having real orgasms, the last few months were questionable, but before that she really gave her all. I think that shows by DDF picking her up to start a new solo site, which I check 2-3 times a day to see if it is open yet ha ha!
Messmer, I wonder if you replied to or read my thread awhile back about re-review dilemmas? The further I go into porn, the years pass, and many of the sites that I have scored high in the past, wouldn't be as high now simply because it is all the same as it was 2 years ago. That thread was about the dilemma I was in, in my re-reviews because I could review them from a pure technical view, saying they have X amount of content, high resolution videos, etc...
Or should I start adding a more personal feeling that this or that site just doesn't do anything for me anymore. I couldn't figure out what was the right way to go about that since I felt like those reading my reviews may or may not think 300th straight facial was boring, and that is why re-reviews or even reviews have become much harder for me to do.
My point being, I agree that the b/g scenes these days are downright boring. I would guess it is the biggest reason that I prefer solo. Not to overhype my favorite model, but Eve Angel and her fingers or dildo is more erotic than 99.9% of hardcore on the internet. She has the full tease, strip, eye contact with the camera, tongue licking her lips and her masturbation causes her to have full body jerks and spasms.
I think you are just stating reality, that most video porn has been reduced to rutting and kink. I don't know whether most people appreciate porn that way, but to find anything else is not that easy. That's one major reason why I prefer photos to videos, because you can find erotic photos much more easily than erotic videos.
Highly agree with the repetitive thing with this site. I think the major flaw that resulted in the lack innovativeness is the fact that they found a nice 'formula' for their scenes within the different fantasies. Then, they decided to just switch the stars and do limited improv that fits in to the scene resulting in the same thing over n' over again. I think instead of doing this formula for every scene, they could easily have written in more elaborate fantasies and implement them in to the scenes to create more successful difference in scenes. However, I really think this will ever change for this site or most sites in general. Once a site kind of finds a formula for a scene, they roll with it. Plus, with us being a bit more knowledgable and experienced in the porn world, we see the same things over and over as a bad thing while I believe a lot like these formulas because they just don't know better or care. PU'ers in general want difference and our expectations are a bit higher, I remember this was the first site I joined (I joined this site before I even had any idea the world of internet porn and was renting dvd's at that time) and this site was like a gold mine. I had no clue about really anything in the ways of porn and this site did the so called 'reality fantasies' and it was so different and somewhat realistic, I loved the site. As time went on and I got more in to porn from a technical side and so on, the less I found this site as the gold mine I thought of before.
The site does offer quite a bit and I think they do a great job there, but the formula's been going on for years now, the scenes are just getting stale. Plus, the 'fakeness' factor is high as you said with the silicone and surgery models. They are the classic American stars with the mindset that more is better.
You are right Messmer, the fact of the eroticism is almost nonexistant. They are so caught up in other things, they lost the focus of the fantasy in general and it become what Denner said, "Wham, bam, thank you, ma'am" scenes. Good review for this site and the honesty within it.
At least they have varied content offering some ethnic shit etc but the resolution, premium channels and revamps of old movies into new titles makes this a non starter for me.
I have been a regular member of VB for the past couple of years but apart from their scene-scene selection function, they really have stagnated.
I am more into the hi res sites like DDFs Hands on Hardcore, Hot Legs and Feet, Sex and Submission etc, even though they update very slowly and milk you of every penny.
VB does need to up it's game and even though the sheer volume of content always gets my eye twitching, when I recall that I get agonisingly slow download speeds after 1.00 PM GMT and the material ends up being the same so so I realize that my money could be better spent elsewhere.
I definately agree that "None" is not a negative here.
One big improvement would be if all 4 reviewers were easily accessable (like the Porn Users reviewers) for questions and comments about sites. Because their reviews lack that feedback and interaction that Porn Users have, lots of questions go unanswered even when the reviews themselves are very good...
I guess I am a little late on this topic. I must agree about the girls being a little chunky. I do not remember any being fat but average girl seen at WalMart sounds about right.
This site is great for raising disagreements. It does a great job about trying to be natural and convincing. This is why the site is popular, after all nearly every other site out there does not put serious effort into being natural.
I personally have to agree with Chloebd on this one. Perhaps not her cup of tea.
One final note. Yesterday, Sunday, things seemed once again back to unsatisfactory so far as speed was concerned. Even the streaming came to a grinding halt occasionally, first time that has happened to me on this site. I still got my money's worth by selecting tons of files for a download and then going for a nice leisurely drive. A couple of hours later all scenes were finished downloading and resting on my hard drive.
But the sad fact is that if you sit in front of the computer waiting for the completion of a download you are still mostly out of luck because it takes ages with speeds yo-yo-ing from 46 KB/sec to 500 KB/sec. The fluctuations are rapid and constant. Don't know what to blame or whom to blame but I'm done trying to be helpful because nothing has changed. Speed remains basically a problem. So, Kris, I believe you when you say you are trying hard to keep us happy, but obviously your techies haven't found the answer to the speed problem yet. You have a good site but some genius has to get to the bottom of this soon before too many get discouraged.
I'd never had a problem with the site before they split. There might've been a little lag from page to page, but what they have now is a system killer - and I'm not running some little 1.2ghz lapptop with 512MB RAM either. My desktop is setup for mutlitasking - 3.6 cpu, 2 gigs of DDR400 on Windows 2000, all but the essential services running... all the tweaks possible to free up resources... It's pretty sad when I can do video editting, check email while I'm on a P2P program and this site, running by itself, shuts me down. Get about 15-20 pages into the site and it's slammed to a halt. I can only hope they get enough complaints to correct the situation well before my 3 months is up
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