Rick, thanks for the explanation on capcha and the tip on using it.
This was only my second nomimation for a site review. I've been a member of PU for over 1 year now, so I figure I'm not included in the spam group.
Could you give me a reason or explanation why spammers would enter nominations or comments? It seems totally senseless to me. Or is it some kind of grafitti-type thing, where spammers just spam everything in sight as an exercise in power/artistic freedom/spite/who-the-hell-knows?
To submit a nomination for a new review, you have to enter the "secret words", to ensure that this is done by a real person, instead of a computer-automated program. I see more and more of that at different sites. It indicates a lack of trust. Are there really that many people spamming PU/TBP that it makes sense to require the "secret words" program?
Some of the programs make it difficult for a human to read the secret words, because the letters/numbers are distorted so much.
I am not a member of Club MetArt.
I am a member of MetArt.
The preview page for Club MetArt gives very little information.
But what the preview page appears to show includes the 4 galleries for today's update at Club MetArt.
Those 4 galleries are the same 4 galleries for today's update at MetArt.
So I don't understand what the reason is for Club MetArt to exist.
Or why anyone would join the site - because the membership price for Club MetArt is higher than for MetArt, and Club MetArt gives you far less content.
Separately, what is your normal download speed? Just curious to compare it to my download speed.
I know you told me before, but my brain has trouble retaining facts (and ideas).
Just one of the benefits of growing older, I guess.
Still more separately: You state in your review you scored MetArt high.
You gave it a score of 88.
In my last review of MetArt, I gave it a score of 99.
In my first review of MetArt, which was also my first review at PU, I gave it a score of 97.
I've said that, in my opinion, MetArt is the best softcore photo site on the internet.
I paid for a lifetime membership to MetArt. Because I was tired of paying a monthly or yearly fee to join.
But you gave an excellent review of MetArt, and I can certainly understand why you scored it 88. And you were being generous, because, as you explained very clearly, the site contents did not appeal to your tastes. But your review of MetArt was detailed and informative, and clearly spelled out its strengths and weaknesses.
BECAUSE I DID NOT GET A CONFIRMING EMAIL FROM CLUB SEVENTEEN FOR MY CANCELLATION, I ALSO TRIED CANCELLING THROUGH vxsbill.com, WHICH SENT ME MY CONFIRMING EMAIL WHEN I JOINED CLUB SEVENTEEN.
I WAS SURPRISED (AND PLEASED) WHEN I GOT A CONFIRMING EMAIL FROM vxsbill.com ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.
THE CONFIRMING EMAIL STATED:
I set your membership for Clubseventeen.com to cancel.
It expires on Jul 13, 2017.
FAST RESPONSE, AND GREAT SERVICE. MY THANKS TO VSXBILL.
I THOUGHT IT WAS THE SITE THAT WAS GIVING ME THE WARNING, AND NOT MY BROWSER.
BUT I STILL THINK THE PAYSITES SHOULD HAVE AN HTTPS PAGE FOR LOGINS.
BECAUSE THE PAYSITES REQUIRE A USERNAME AND PASSWORD TO ENTER THE MEMBERS AREA, AND IF THE ACCOUNT DETAILS (USERNAME AND PASSWORK) ARE HACKED, THE MEMBER WILL BE PENALIZED BY BLOCKED ACCESS, AT THE LEAST.
I SHOULD HAVE REALIZED IT WAS THE FIREFOX BROWSER, BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN THE WARNING MESSAGE ON LOGGING IN TO DIFFERENT PAYSITES. I GUESS I JUST WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION IN THE PAST ABOUT THE NON-SECURE LOGINS.
EXCEPT IF I DO BANKING OR GIVE MY CREDIT CARD DATA, I ALWAYS CHECK THAT THE CONNECTION PAGE IS SECURE.
PU/TBP is based in the U.S., and that is why the prices they show are the U.S. prices these sites charge. (I believe that's why they are showing the U.S. prices.) Even though in some cases there can be regional pricing, but PU/TBP doesn't normally list the prices that might be charged for non-U.S. customers. That would require a lot of extra work, and they have a lot of work involved trying to list the current U.S. prices for the sites, along with any discounts that might apply.
Anyway, I was trying to show, in my reply, the prices a U.S. customer might see, or pay.
Because those are the prices I see when I click on the join pages for these sites. Since I live in the United States.
The PU/TBP sites list the membership price as $19.95 (U.S.).
But when you click on the link to the Club Seventeen site, and you then click on the join page link, when you get to the monthly price, you see, 19.95 euros (approximately $25.88 (U.S.). That is what you will see, if you live in the United States.
I live in California, part of the United States.
So this is a case where PU/TBP needs to update the price it shows (for U.S. members). Or maybe it can get the discount back into effect that it had before.
I agree that regional pricing is unfair, and should be abolished. But this instance is not a case of regional pricing, but apparently a case where the PU/TBP listed price no longer agrees with the price the site is charging.
I agree there are plenty of worse sites out there. Like you say, if you take the time to dig through the site you will find some nice pictures of attractive models. But as I get older, I'm less willing to spend a lot of time digging through the trash; I want quality photos (or videos) put on display where I can easily find them.
My suggestion of a score less than 70 for this site is really more of a quibble than a serious disagreement. I basically agree with the points you made in your review. I personally find it difficult to come up with a score for sites, because I believe a site score is very subjective. That's my belief, but I recognize that some people appear to believe their scores are written in stone and are based on immutable factors that should be obvious to all (I am not including you as part of that camp).
In spite of a number of attractive models, because of the high membership price and other negative factors of this site, it's not worth joining. So what is a reasonable score for a site that's not worth joining? Individual preferences vary wildly, but I think any score of 70 or above is too high for this site. That's just my opinion, of course, but I think that more emphasis should be put on making the score reflect the attractiveness/value of a site, as to whether the site is worth joining or not.
I think it's amazing so many people look at movies and TV on handheld devices. I prefer a full sized computer monitor, or my laptop monitor. The bigger the better.
Because of the problems you had with this site, I would have given the site a lower score than the 88 that you gave it. An 88 score for a site usually means a very good site with only minor problems.
Giving Cruelty Party a score of 82.
If the site were scored as a stand-alone site, the score would be much lower. The main value of the site is in the network access, not in the site contents. The network videos are mainly professionally shot, with good lighting, good sound control, OK to good camera-work, but usually in a gonzo versus glamour style.
The Porn Pros network is not bad: You get a large collection of niche sites, with 1,000s of hardcore videos.
But the videos start to lose steam after a while, and you might want something different.
There are some good, hot videos at the network. You just have to search through a lot of OK to meh videos to find the ones you like.
They advertise that you get 24 sites with a basic subscription. That advertisement might have been true a year ago, but it appears that currently, you only get 16 sites with a basic subscription.
The basic pro with Cruelty Party is that you get access to the Porn Pros basic network of 16 sites.
This provides you with a lot of different niches.
The basic con with Cruelty Party is that it's a small site. Only 64 updates.
Cruelty Party was started around the beginning of 2010. It stopped updating in March 2013. That's about 4 years ago. So don't expect any new scenes. The theme was girls drinking and partying and having a good time, then having sex with one or more guys. I'm not sure where the cruelty fits in, because the sex is consensual, not rough, no biting, spitting, name-calling, or extreme gonzo action.
Maybe the owners thought that "cruelty" would be a selling point to attract subscribers. Except they didn't bother to follow through with putting cruel sex in the videos.
If group sex is your niche, the site provides 64 videos for your pleasure.
If group sex is not your niche, you get access to 15 other sites, most with more content to select from.
Most of the models at the network are attractive white teens. There is little variety, in age, race, or body type.
The teens are basically attractive, but they are not presented as glamour models: instead, the sex is hardcore gonzo, with little plot, little dialog worth hearing, little or no romance or affection--basically just suck and fuck.
If that's your bag, you have plenty of choices.
If you want more refined sex, more glamour, slightly more plot, go to a glamcore site, or visit a borderline glamcore/gonzo site like Diesel network.
My personal favorite site in the network is Massage Creep. Because I like the one on one (boy-girl), and the massage setup gives some variation and meaning to the sex. Where the masseur works to arouse the girl before he starts to bang her.
Excellent review. Clearly shows some important facts. The download problems means this would be a site for me to avoid, no matter how appealing the models might be.
In honor of the Indian review I wrote, and the interests of accuracy, I went to an Indian restaurant today that I sometimes go to, for lunch, to hear how the waiters talk. The owner was born in the Indian state of Punjab. But there is also a Punjab province of Pakistan with a lot of Punjabi people. Anyway, the owner and the waiter both spoke English with an Indian (not British) accent. I'm calling how they spoke an "Indian accent", just like I'm calling what Americans in the United States speak with as an American accent, even though both terms are probably not correct from a technical standpoint, but I'm not a linguist, just trying to get the idea across that you can sometimes tell where a person is from the way he/she speaks.
The point is, there are some models at this site that are Indian, but there are also some models that are not Indian, based on the way they speak English. The models all dress up like they are Indians from India, but that is part of the fantasy. It's supposed to make the video more exotic and erotic if the model is from India, no matter where the model really is from.
Am I allowed to charge my lunch to PU, because of the research I was doing?
I'm no expert, but I believe at least some of the models are from India or a near-by area, because of their accents. I believe, because England once controlled India, many Indians acquired a British-type accent, and some Indians (the wealthy ones) even went to England for some of their formal education. The accent can be a British-sounding accent, or a different type of accent that is different from the British accent. But there are definitely some models at the site that I believe are native Indians, even if they moved to where-ever it was that they made these porn videos. I doubt they made any of these videos in India, simply because it would have been too dangerous (against the law).
But there are a lot of fake "Indian" models at this site that are just Americans, from the United States, based on their "American accent".
Ace of aces, I sent you an email thru PU (actually, 2 emails) on how to join the network for $5 for 30 day membership, full access to all the sites in the network. Be sure to check your inbox (or your spam box) to see the details. This is a great deal, very cheap 30 day membership for $5, no tricks, just a low-cost offer.
I guess there's a ton I don't know about pictures.
Landscape? Is that where the girl lays out flat, or on her side, so you can determine the best way to approach her?
With the modern generation of models, it doesn't really matter if the girl is standing up, laying down, upside down, or even head down in the toilet bowl, I've seen videos where the guy(s) just start banging away whatever.
I think pictures have a bit more class than most of the videos I've seen. Some pictures can be erotic, or have a real artistic quality to them, and the models can look stunning, gorgeous, lovely, or just yummy.
Personally, I download the high-res pictures more often than the low- or medium-res, in case I want to study them for some reason. But I usually view the picture to fit the monitor. Scrolling to view a picture is not enjoyable, for me. Like I say, if I want to examine a picture for some reason, I will switch the view to scan/scroll, but to simply enjoy the picture, I want to see the entire image.
If you're not into "shaved", you're really limited by what is out there. Most models are shaved. I would prefer a trimmed look, that was popularized by Playboy back in the 1970s-1980s, but "shaved" is what's popular today.
I honestly don't know where you're getting your video fix if you're into softcore (like I am). The sites offering softcore video (that are also teen softcore) are like Met-art and Femjoy. Met-art videos are teen softcore, and they are almost uniformly boring. Gorgeous girls, but boring videos. Femjoy has softcore teen videos, that are slightly more enjoyable than Met-art, but you are watching lovely young girls, but without any sense of the erotic. The girls are lovely, but the videos are only slightly less boring than the Met-art videos. I think the main reason the Femjoy videos are less boring is that they are shorter (I'm not joking, I really think that is the main reason, but also, the Femjoy videos are somehow better shot).
I am definitely a teen glamor type. Also enjoy pix more than vids, because they are easier to deal with. So when I looked at most of the niche sites here, it was just out of curiosity. For me, the value is mainly Devilsfilm and Silverstone, which have some nice-looking young models. But I was just pointing out that for people with other tastes, for $14.95, it might be worth a look-see.
I really have little experience with most DVD sites. But this network offering is so much better than Pornaccess, which is also offered by the same company. Pornaccess was almost a total waste for me, with so many low-quality vids, unattractive models, and terrible navigation.
I just saw your review for White Ghetto. The review seems clear and sensible: "The great divide again: if you like beauty and glamor stay away, if you like rude and raw and not always pretty then I recommend this site to you."
There are a lot of PU members who want something other than teen glamor, and this network might offer it to them.
But for me, I try to find teen glamor, or at least good-looking teens, in this network.
Do you have any hints to make my search easier?
Sites I found in this network, so far, which have good-looking teen models include: Devilsfilm
Silverstone PeterNorth
There were also many sites that were not part of the above networks:
Pretty Dirty
Pure Taboo
etc.
I'm giving the site a score of 73.
Personally, I found the site a waste of time, because of the lack of pretty models.
However, if you are getting the site from an Adult Time membership, with access to over 100 porn sites, the score zooms to 97, because of the massive amount of hardcore porn in a variety of niches. Much of the porn I've seen at the network is very good to excellent quality. With lots of pretty models, some interesting stories, some hot sex.
BOTTOM LINE:
The Adult Time network is one of the best bargains in high quality porn: massive amount of content, for a very low price.
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