Thanks for the note. I did realize that there was a name change. I have seen a number of videos from the YoungPorn/YoungLegalPorn site, and thought the models were very attractive and the videos were very clear and nice quality. But I never got around to joining the site/network, because I am mainly into softcore photosets. But I am dabbling with video sites more now.
I was thinking about joining this network, mainly for the Young Legal Porn site. But then I joined the teen mega world network yesterday, because that was cheaper. My mistake, because I've been a member of teen mega world before, and am curious about the Young Legal Porn site. But maybe I will get to Young Legal Porn sometime in the future. :)
Teen mega world has some nice sites, but the grass is always greener on the other side. Just human nature, I guess.
But $40, or even $35, seems very steep for a 1 month membership. I don't like paying more than $30 for a month, and there are nice sites/networks that you can get for $20 or less (thru PU discounts).
I paid $20 for a 1 month membership to Teen Mega World, which gives me access to around 30+ sites. Of those sites, maybe 6 are the main ones for value, and the rest are filler.
On the other hand, the number of sites is really a marketing decision. All the Teen Mega World sites could be combined into a single site, but then the potential subscribers would think they were getting less for their money.
There are a lot of young girls here, many are nice-looking (not really great-looking, but ok to nice). But with the poor quality and other problems, the site is not worth joining.
Personal taste varies so widely. The two previous PU reviewers gave scores of 88 and 90, the reviews were 9 months or less old, and written by established PU members.
But I give more weight to your review on this site, because when I've read your reviews on sites I've been to, your views generally agree with my thinking (Except I've never joined most of the sites you've joined. I focus mainly on softcore pix).
I don't know if most guys shooting porn have discovered the tripod yet. But the videos at this site are less herky-jerky than at some sites which can almost give you motion sickness.
I gave you a positive trust rating on 02-19-09 with the following comment: "Good reviews, more recent ones with lots of details."
So I don't think there's anything wrong with your reviews. I think they provide a good flavor of the sites you write about (details and opinions beyond the basic site statistics).
But thanks for the thumbs up on my review.
And I also agree with your idea that most East European models are getting paid peanuts compared to what American models make. That's a good part of the reason why there was such an explosion of porn coming out of East Europe: the cheap production costs.
But what I am really thankful for is the number of physically attractive young models. Some of them are truly lovely. More on the softcore side, but a number in hardcore as well.
18stream site has a very nice preview section option that I wish more sites would offer.
In the public preview section, you get a large-sized thumbnail of each video in the site. The thumbnail usually gives you a good idea of what the model looks like. Even better, by clicking on the thumbnail, you get a free, 1-minute preview of the video, that gives you a good idea of the video quality (definition, clarity, and a very brief glimpse of the sex-action).
This is a wonderful way to give the prospective member a great idea of what the site contents are, and a good idea of what the models look like.
And site members can use the same previews as well, to help decide which videos they want to examine in greater detail.
slutty, I took it as a compliment that you basically agreed with my review. I did not intend my reply as showing any disagreement. I just tend to ramble a lot, and sometimes people read into my words ideas I did not mean at all. You did not come off as compative (though I am not really sure what compative means).
There's a lot of the network I haven't seen myself. Or downloaded.
I assume you joined the network through the spunkybee site? Or did you find another site with a better offer?
There is a model named Klara at this site that is also called Aurita and Vera at the site. She started in porn maybe a year ago, and is appearing on a lot of different sites in both softcore and hardcore, at TeenMegaWorld network, Nubiles, and other sites. I think she even has 1 photoset at Met-art. I find her very attractive, and her videos at this site are among the best of the site. You might want to check her videos out at this site.
There are two other models named Klara at this site. I thought the video of the model named Klara with only one video at this site, listed as "Kaspar and Klara on video", that downloads as 252.wmv, is a good video.
I think that scoring a site is very subjective, and the score itself is only a very general opinion. Just like one critic might think a movie is excellent while another critic thinks the movie is just good or just OK, or possibly a waste of time, people will find different values in a porn site.
I gave the site a very high score because I liked the way the girls were treated with respect or affection instead of being treated as sluts or whores like many gonzo videos show.
But someone else could give the site a score of 80 or even 70 and I
wouldn't really disagree with their score, because that is their opinion.
I could have given the site a score of 80 myself, with no problem. I know that PU/TBP appears to believe a score represents something solid, but I do not. When I read a review, I am less interested in the score, which is a very general guide of the reviewer's opinion, than in the details of the review, what the person likes and dislikes about the site.
As far as acting as a possible guide to my joining the site, a lot depends on whether my tastes agree with the reviewer's. Many sites that get very high scores are not sites I would ever join, because I don't like the content of the sites.
I agree that navigation is not perfect. But I have a slow DSL connection, and what really helps me is having nice-sized thumbnails to show what the models look like. That makes it much easier for me to decide whether to view the video. At other sites in the network, there is no good-sized thumbnail, so I have to try streaming, which sucks for me with slow DSL, and some sites don't even have streaming. With no streaming, then I have to download the video, which can easily take two hours or more. So that's why I said the navigation is good, because for me, it's so much better than what some of the other sites have.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
-The best site design of this network I've seen so far.
-Nice-sized thumbnail for each model, giving you a good idea of what the model looks like. Many of the network sites have no nice-sized thumbnail of the model, so you have to play the streaming video or download the complete video before you get an idea of what the model looks like.
-Multiple viewing/downloading options:
Steaming: in low, medium, high quality
Screenshots: good sized, blurry to nice quality, to illustrate the video, could be downloaded as individual photos, but mainly useful to see what
the model looks like and to get an idea of the action.
Download options:
WMV, low, medium, high quality
MPEG
MOV
-Advertises daily updates of videos.
-No DRM
-Easy login to site.
-I don't like captcha, but this site has the easiest to read captcha that I've seen.
Search is basic but functional: search by model name returns model's videos and thumbnail of model.
Cons:
Mostly minor:
-There is a site timeout. But login is easy.
-Advertises 500+ teen porn videos. My sense is there are far less videos at the site, but since there is no simple txt listing of videos, I won't take the time and effort to count the videos.
-A high-speed connection is really helpful. A high quality 30 minute video file is about 1.3 GB. To download that file takes 2 hours 30 minutes for a download speed of 150 KB/s. I can't watch the videos in streaming, because they stutter and stop. But I believe most PU members have fast Internet connections so watching a
streaming video would be no problem.
-Search is basic: Can't search by description of model, or by type of sexual activity.
-Need to manually create your own listing for the videos you download. Files are named as 342.wmv, 201.wmv, 199.wmv. Write your own description of model, and whatever else you want to know, with the file name/number.
-Watermark-bottom right corner, larger than needed.
Bottom Line:
Excellent hardcore teen video site.
The videos are crystal clear for hardcore. Great definition, good lighting. There is actually foreplay and cuddling and kissing before the
sex in many scenes. Many of the girls are extremely attractive, and even the male teens are good-looking. Good camera work on the videos. Instead of gonzo sex, you get scenes of guys and girls making out and having sex. And during the sex, instead of just shots of 2 or more bodies banging away, you actually get to look at some lovely girls enjoying a sexual experience.
The lighting is generally ok to good. The skin color and skin tone of the models is generally ok to good.
At most of the Euro teen sites, the models are almost all small breasted, which I like. There are some models here with medium-sized or larger
breasts. But all the breasts appear natural. No fake plastic boobies, almost no tattoos on the female models, very little piercing (some belly
button or ear-rings, but that is minor). It's really nice the girls are so young and clean-looking.
Obviously not all videos are going to have good lighting and good skin tone color and good everything else, but the general level of the videos is very high for a hardcore video site.
Most of the videos are 1 boy-1 girl, which is what I prefer.
There are a few vids with 2 boys-2 girls.
I saw 1 lesbian scene.
I saw 1 female solo masturbation scene.
Models take a less gonzo style approach to sex. There is actually some tenderness and cuddling and stroking before getting down to hardcore sex. No strip tease, but a big improvement over the wham-bam-fuck-the-slut approach.
Female models don't give out with a lot of fake moans and groans. They do make some sounds expressing enjoyment and excitement, but these are more believable, natural sounds instead of the show-boaty expressions of American porn where the females start screaming: "GOD", "FUCK THAT CUNT", "OOOHHHWHEEEE!!!" as soon as the male gets within 25 1/2 inches of their body. (Slight exaggeration, possibly, or maybe not. :))
The male models are young, fresh, mainly good-looking teens. In some cases the boys look as good or better than the females.
The male actors treat the females, in general, with liking and respect.
There is little to no humiliation or abuse of the female models.
Bottom Line: This is a hardcore video site that makes a nice change of pace from gonzo sex.
I am giving the site a score of 90, because it's the one of the better hardcore video sites I've seen (not to be compared to DVD sites like VideoBox or VideosZ) treating the models with respect, affection, gentle sex, whatever.
My current ISP DSL download speed maxes out at 150-160 KB/s. I am seriously considering paying more for a faster connection.
Until I do get a faster connection, the 3-day trials are not that helpful to me. To download a single 1.3 GB video file takes about 2 hours 30 minutes, and if I'm surfing the Internet or looking at other sites, that slows my download speed so the download takes even longer.
I can't really watch these videos as streaming, because they mostly stutter and stop, stutter and stop, while playing.
So I just need a faster connection. :)
There do appear to be a large number of videos at the Tony Bucks network. My experience has mainly been softcore photosets. I haven't seen any of the videos at Tony Bucks at other sites. There are some attractive models here.
slutty, please see my comment posted today, titled "Special offer ends today". It explains a cheaper way to join the network, and to get access to 10 sites in the network, instead of just access to 1 or 3 sites in the network. That comment was added to the 18stream page at PU. I posted my reply to you as a comment, instead of a reply here, because PU limits the lines and length of a reply. :)
(Continuation of original comment. Added because comments are limited to a certain number of characters and a certain number of lines.)
If you join the same network from one of the other sites in the network, you will probably pay $29.95 for 1 month, but you will get a smaller number of bonus sites in your membership. You can get access to anywhere from 3 or more sites, up to 10 sites, depending on which site you join through. There are 11 sites in the network, but I didn't see any offer which included all 11 sites.
It makes no sense, offering access to different numbers of sites depending on which site you join through, but that's the way it sometimes happens.
At each of their sites, they advertise that the special offer ends today.
Maybe they will extend the offer, maybe not.
But if you are seriously considering the network, I would take advantage of the special offer, and join today, and join through the spunky bee site.
slutty, you can view the videos online by streaming, or you can download them to your PC in multiple formats. But you are right, it is kind of misleading to see "streaming" in the name, because we almost all want to collect our porn and be able to download it.
The price of the site by itself is kind of expensive. To join the site directly, you have to pay $34.95 monthly.
Normally, you just get the single site itself when you join.
They are having a special offer, that if you join them, you get 18 stream plus two other sites in the network:
rough18
spunkybee
But the network, if you join through the spunkybee site instead, you only pay $29.95 (you save $5).
Plus, more important than saving $5, you also get access to 10 sites in the network, including the 18 stream site.
The sites you have access to, by joining through spunkybee include:
The videos are crystal clear for hardcore. Great definition, good lighting. There is actually foreplay and cuddling and kissing before the sex in many scenes. Many of the girls are extremely attractive, and even the male teens are good-looking. Good camera work on the videos. Instead of gonzo sex, you get scenes of guys and girls making out and having sex.
A really nice change of pace from many of the gonzo-style teen sites.
And during the sex, instead of just shots of 2 or more bodies banging away, you actually get to look at some lovely girls enjoying a sexual experience.
Do these girls come with a doctor's COA (certificate of authenticity) certifying their virgin status? I learned about COAs on ebay.
I'm currently a member of Teen Mega World, have been a past member of Diesel several times. It just seems the models at those networks are cuter, on average, than the models shown on the preview pages at 18 Virgin Sex. Although some of the models appear at all 3 networks, the models at Teen Mega World and Diesel are presented more attractively.
Anyway, an excellent review of this site, as usual.
Referring to the public preview page:
I agree, some girls in the thumbnails do appear to be shown twice or more in separate thumbnails.
It's hard to be certain how many of the thumbnails are of each model.
Partially because many of the models are similar in appearance.
If you join the site or network, each site listing of the individual videos gives a better thumbnail of each model, as well as her name.
That gives a better indication of what the site contains.
I agree that the public preview is very poor.
They should have a public preview page showing all their models.
I believe there are currently 487 scenes/videos at the site.
I believe the videos are exclusive.
However, after watching a number of the videos, it's hard to tell them apart.
Maybe it's porn burn-out for me, but the videos start to get repetitious after a while.
In spite of the attractive girls.
So there is a lot of content at this one site.
And you also get network access, which means you get a boatload of porn videos.
The basic network gives you over 3,000 videos (without upgrading to premium status).
I see no need to pay the $70 to upgrade to premium status.
I don't believe the preview page is a mashup.
It's just that the thumbnails reflect that the videos are so similar.
And that's why you think it's a jumbled mashup.
It isn't a jumbled mashup.
It just that the thumbnails, which show different videos, seem so similar to each other, that it seems like a jumbled mess.
And that's what your brain seems to see, after watching many of these videos. An overpowering mess of attractive naked teens, which loses its allure because of the repetitiousness of the videos.
Current Member for over 2 months (at the time of review).
Pros:
-PU discounted membership of $17.95/month (recurring).
-483 Updates. This is one of the larger sites in the Porn Pros network.
-You get access to the basic Porn Pros network with membership. (Access to the premium sites costs a one-time fee of $69.95).
-A wide variety of niches served by the 22 sites in the basic network.
-Navigation is basic, but easy.
-A large number of mostly attractive, white teen models engaging in hardcore sex.
-Videos are good quality: professionally shot: good lighting, good camera-work, good sound control, sets are not cheap (but not expensive, either).
-Unlimited downloading.
-Unlimited streaming.
Cons:
-Cons are basically minor.
-Cross-sale on join page. Note: even if you uncheck the cross-sale box, you might still be charged the cross-sale membership fee. If you are charged, make sure you contact the biller to dispute the fee.
-Nag screen each time you log in to upgrade to premium status for $69.95.
-Have to check a box each time you log in to verify you are not a robot.
-There is a variation of the box-to-check to prove you are not a robot: You may have to check all the boxes in a visual where there is a street sign, to prove you are not a robot. This is the only paysite I can remember where I have to prove I'm not a robot, after I've already paid for my membership, each time I log in.
-Some ads on each page for cross-sales to other paysites. And an ad to upgrade to premium status.
-Slow, irregular update rate for the site. However, the basic network gets 2 or 3 new videos per week.
-Although the models are mainly attractive young teens, I've been spoiled by the glamcore sites.
Bottom Line:
CONS (CONTINUED):
-Sometimes the videos stop steaming.
-Sometimes the photo sets fail to load.
BOTTOM LINE:
This is the current list of sites listed at the "Sites" page:
THE NUMBER OF NAMES IS 17
Here are the sorted names.
Before the glamcore sites like X-Art, Blacked, and Tushy came out, the Porn Pros network was an excellent site:
It had a large number of attractive teen models who were engaging in hardcore teen sex. The quality of the videos was excellent for the time.
However, since X-Art, Blacked and Tushy started publishing videos and photosets where the same girls (and other attractive teen models) are showcased, the Porn Pros network suffers in comparison:
The glamcore models are presented to showcase their glamor and attractiveness: High quality, professional lighting, expensive costumes, expensive or upgraded sets, use of professional photographers that strive to make the models as attractive and glowing as possible.
So the same models at Porn Pros just don't look as good.
The porn pros network has the advantage of massive content compared to the glamcore sites.
But the glamcore sites present the models like starlets in a movie with sex. (Except that a movie with sex would have a better plot and better acting). The glamcore sites try to add a tiny plot line, to give the sex more meaning. And the glamcore sites try to add different factors: a sensual element, kisses, interaction between the stunt cock and the model beyond gonzo sex, etc.
Porn pros does give value. But it's a question of what you want to pay for:
A glamcore site, where the models look glamourous.
Or a hardcore teen network, where the models are attractive, but it's missing the glamourous approach.
There are some minor negatives to the network. But it's basically easy to navigate-except for the missing sites. There is a huge number of attractive models featured in hardcore scenes. Download speeds are good, 3-4 MB/sec.
Most videos offer a choice of definition for download: 480p, 720p, 1080p.
You can stream the videos in standard or HD definition.
The network has minor glitches:
--Sometimes videos stop streaming with the message: Network error.
--Sometimes photos fail to load: Message states:
Forbidden. We're sorry, the server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it.
-The request to verify you are not a robot, before you can log in to the site.
-The ads you have to ignore, when browsing the pages. You paid for a membership, so why can't you enjoy the site without a bunch of ads? Because they want the rest of your money.
In spite of the minor annoyances, the network does give good value. But it's a question of where you want to spend your money: there are plenty of sites that give good value for your money, and it's difficult to find the best sites to join.
Which is not the worst problem in the world.
With a little searching, you can find porn sites that are a worthwhile join.
Porn Pros would have been an amazing site back in the 1970s or 1980s.
In 2016, it's a good site, worth joining, but not the outstanding value it would have been many years ago.
Are you planning on writing a site review?
I'm curious how many of the videos at this site are also shown at Teen Mega World.
Also, would like to know general site details about navigation, model index, etc.
I assume it's just a temp error you can't log in. Because I don't remember any site I've joined that cut my access before the subscription expired, except for one that was having financial problems, that I never re-joined, or a different site that cut my access because they said I went over their daily download limit.
Blocking access to a site you paid for, that's goddamn irritating.
500MB x 50 scenes = 25 GB. If that's for 1 month, that would be a tiny download limit.
I joined a Japanese site about a year ago, that had a daily download limit of 12 GB. The photosets and videos only had 1 file size (no low or medium option, just the high quality was offered).
For downloading, my DSL connection maxes out at 150-160 KB/s. That's the best I can hit, and if I download more than 1 file at a time, the total download speed splits the 150 KB/s between the files. So it's no faster to download 2 files at the same time than to download a single file.
Anyway, even with 150-160 KB/s download speed, I could sometimes reach the 12 GB daily limit. Because the video files at that site were large (the photosets are much smaller, of course).
So I downloaded a bunch of videos and photosets, because there are some absolutely gorgeous Japanese porn stars.
But I haven't looked at a single one of those files since downloading them. Lol. And that was over a year ago.
I was never very accurate guessing a person's age from looking at him or her.
A few porn models do have a very young appearance, and can still look like a teenager long after they are into their twenties.
Thanks for the links, but I can't really tell much difference in her appearance between the three scenes. The major difference, to me, is that she has a greenish white skintone in one because of the green paint on the walls:
http://picsgall3.tinseks.com/012/10/001/
I'm pretty sure she is also at the teenmegaworld network. But I don't know if I even bothered to download her material there, because I was signed up to too many different sites, and with a slow DSL connection, it takes a long time to download these large files. And when I download, I usually go for the high quality, so it can take 1-2 hours to download a single video file.
I really need to get a faster Internet connection.
Some of these video files are now over 1 GB, which is ridiculous. Especially when I find I don't even like the file, and delete it, after watching it partway through.
There are a number of videos at this current network, TonyBucks, that are 1 GB or more.
Sometimes when I mention that a photographer can make a girl look much better, by makeup, lighting, whatever, I get a response that "natural" is better, and that to some PU members, at least, the less makeup, photoshopping, the better: any change from the real model is for the worse.
But I definitely think, as long as it's not overdone (which is a highly personal opinion), makeup and lighting and good skin tone and colorful costume and other factors can make a huge difference in how attractive and erotic a model will be presented.
I think I started seeing this model maybe a year ago. One of the first sets I saw her in she was really cute (because of the lighting and other factors). Since then, I've seen her at many different sites, and she rarely looks as good as she did in that early photoset. It wasn't that she was wearing a lot of makeup: she just looked really cute or pretty.
Some models can look very different from one site to the next. But this model's only been here a very short time, so, if she doesn't age fast, change hair color or hair style, she is easily recognizable at the different sites.
A few porn models can last for 5-10 years or more, and they don't appear to age that much. Most models don't last anywhere near that long, but in a few years, they are already starting to look much older. The porn business can be very hard on some models, I think.
That Nathalie is a true slut. The first time I saw her, I thought she was lovely and pink and soft in a photoset, wearing an adorable smile, a white wrist band and a white-and-pink collar around her neck, and nothing else. But then I started seeing her on one site after another, banging away with boy after boy after boy. And my illusions were shattered, because I had thought she was waiting for me to show up, and I was forced to realize she was not really waiting after all. :)
The photography can make a huge difference in how attractive a girl appears. In that one photoset I first saw, Nathalie looked really cute. But in many of the photosets/videos of her I've seen since, she looks just OK to mildly attractive.
I really wish that more sites would pay more time and attention and care to making each girl as attractive as possible, in the photographs and videos. I don't think it would take that much more effort, as long as the photographer/video man was competent.
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