Wow Girls and Wow Porn are marketed separately from the Diesel Access network of Young Legal Porn, 18 Only Girls, and the other 12 sites in the Diesel Access network.
I've joined the 14 site Diesel Access network for the 5-month membership. You get access to the 14 sites in that network, including Young Legal Porn, 18 Only Girls, and the other 12 sites (but not Wow Girls or Wow Porn).
Also, if you join 18 Only Girls or Young Legal Porn and stay a member for more than 2 months, I believe you then gain access to all 14 sites in the Diesel Access network. At least, that's what what the Webmaster wrote in a reply to some comment last year.
But the site management should definitely change the non-member pages for the updates, so that each non-member updates page accurately shows what content is available inside that site.
Otherwise, as you pointed out, someone who joins a single site, might feel cheated they are not getting what was advertised in the non-member's update page.
I am currently a member of both 18OnlyGirls and YoungLegalPorn.
When I look at the updates page for each site, I see two different pages.
There are no duplicate listings of the same content (video or photo shoot) at both sites.
I am writing about going inside the member's area, and looking at the update page for each site.
If you are not a member, or if you are looking outside the member's area for each site, and you look at the update page for each site in the non-member's area, you are correct: both sites, in the non-member updates page, show the same content (the same videos and photoshoots).
You could say that is false advertising.
I believe it's more likely a simple mistake (stupid, but understandable), where someone just put up on the internet the same page of contents (videos and photoshoots) to advertise both sites, even though those videos and photoshoots would not be available at both sites.
To be more explicit, if you are seeing a photo for a photoshoot or video at one site, and a matching photo at the other site, one photo is for a video, and the other photo is for the photoshoot of that video. They often distribute their content that way, instead of making sure that the video and matching photoshoot both appear at the same site.
Not a clone.
Both sites feature the same models.
And sometimes one site has a photoshoot of a video that is featured at the other site, and vice versa.
But basically content that appears at one site does not appear at the other site.
Years ago, I believe, some content did migrate from one site to the other. But that does not happen today.
Both sites are owned by the same company, and the content at both sites are similar in style and content, but not the same exact content.
I just noticed that both 18 Only Girls and Young Legal Porn are now $29.97/month. The last time I checked, at least one of those sites was $19.99/month, with a PU/TBP discount, as far as I can remember.
A lot of sites are offering specials, where they reduce the membership price. But the Diesel sites are trying to keep their prices up, or even increasing them.
In the TBP site, it says: "Could not locate exclusive content information."
Most of the site contents is exclusive, I believe. But don't expect 100% exclusive content.
Two main reasons for non-exclusive content:
1. They post videos and photo sets from other sites, as a cross-selling feature. Those videos and photo sets are clearly marked as coming from other sites, along with a link to those sites with a discount for joining.
2. They post videos and photo sets from a supplier who sells to other sites/networks. I've seen some videos that were posted at the Teen Mega World network, and later posted at 18 Only Girls. However, when the videos are posted at 18 Only Girls (or at Young Legal Porn, another site in the Diesel network), the videos offer a higher definition option, and usually have better lighting, better colors, and a higher quality to the video. So I think that's a good thing, where you can get a better quality version of a video, even if you saw it at another network.
Probably just a temporary thing. But I enter my user name and password, and the captcha numbers, hit the Enter key. And instead of bring up the page of sites for the Diesel network, I get a page with nothing but blackness.
The same thing happened 4 times. Don't know if it's my computer, or a site problem.
Will try logging in later.
But at the moment, I can't access any of their sites, even though I have a network access for all their sites.
UPDATE:
Problem went away. I can now bring up the page of sites for the Diesel network. Didn't change anything (on login information). But login now works.
I think, if you wanted to re-write your responses, it would make a great review of the Diesel network, or one of their main sites.
I honestly believe, because of your greater writing skills and other factors, that your reviews are outstanding. Far beyond anything I have written. Toadsith hasn't written any reviews in almost 4 years, but his reviews, like yours, are some of the best at PU.
I'm glad that you are finding some sites that you like. I thought, after re-reading your reviews, that your tastes were too specialized to finding sites you might think worthwhile:
"As I am not interested in bg, gg or video, it is hard for me to evaluate the quality of that content."
You say you like Metart, and would score it in the mid to high 90s. But you also say: "I tend to find their images beautiful but not very exciting..."
So when you give Metart a 90s score, do you mean that represents your personal satisfaction with the site? Or do you mean, instead, that is your "professional reviewer's" opinion of the site, apart from your own enjoyment?
When we write reviews for PU, we are supposed to score a site based on some objective criteria, apart from our own personal satisfaction. Which I find hard to do.
My tastes are different from yours, but you've talked me into a ATK Galleria membership in the near future.
You write that MyPreciousVirgins "has some good photos but so few that you can find all of them within a week of joining."
I don't think MyPreciousVirgins is a mega site, but it has a large number of models and photosets. So if you could only find a week's worth of content worth keeping, then it seems that it would take years before 18 Only Girls or Young Legal Porn would build up enough photosets that would appeal to you. Because most of the photos they post (and all of the videos) would seem to be outside your interest, even if they improve their photography.
I am looking forward to reading your future reviews.
If that is true, most of the content at 18 Only Girls and Young Legal Porn would have little value for you.
I just re-read the three reviews you have posted. All I can say is, wow, your reviews are great, you put a lot of thought and intelligence and details into them.
Diesel is not a photo site that features a variety of professional photographers. The early photosets were amateurish, poor colors, not high definition, a wasted opportunity of attractive teens.
Recent photos are more professionally photographed.
One content provider for the Diesel network and Teen Mega World network is:
Browse the samples from that site. If the photosets appeal to you, then you might join Diesel after giving them time to build up content that you might like.
The quality at Diesel is far superior to what you get at Teen Mega World. Teen Mega Word is a video site. They have tons of photosets, but I assume the photos (and the videos) would not appeal to you.
In one review you wrote:
"What I want is for the model to look like she wants to rip my clothes off. Alas, with these photographers, few models look like they are thinking about sex at all, even though there are plenty of open leg poses and some mild finger spreading too. 'You can look but don't touch'. "
At the moment, I can't think of any sites that cater to your preference.
"I don't know why the the photosets at 18 Only Girls are so unsatisfying.
The quality of the photosets is far below what you find at a glamor-style site like Met-art or MPL Studios, in terms of definition, appeal, etc. The style of the photosets is like what is shown at sites like Teen Stars Magazine (an archive site) or My Precious Virgins. Except that what
is shown at Teen Stars Magazine and My Precious Virgins is done much better. The photosets at 18 Only Girls are like a pale imitation of themuch better photosets at the other two sites. And compared to glamor photo sites like Met-art or MPL Studios, the photosets at 18 Only Girls are almost worthless. The photosets are like snapshots from the 1960s or 1970s. Even though they are nude photosets, the 18 Only Girls photosets lack sexiness. My guess is that the lack of sexual appeal is due to the washed-out appearance of the colors in the photos."
There are a lot of things I like about Diesel. I like their videos, with the option of downloading in several definitions. And the newer photosets have multiple choices for definition, as well.
As far as theme: this is a teen site. But there is a wide range of sexual activity shown. Single girl, lesbian with two or more girls, boy-girl, boy with two or more girls. Some use of toys, but not a heavy emphasis of toys. The toys could be in a single girl masturbating, two or more girls, boy-girl, one boy with two or more girls.
The sets don't emphasize any themes, except for being teens.
"Are they doing multiple photo sets per girl or is it more of a one or two sets per girl kind of a site (like Pretty4Ever)?"
The number of sets a girl might have is completely random. A lot of girls have only 1 or 2 appearances. The model Maria has 7 videos and 10 photo sets. Katie has 13 videos and 13 photo sets. The model Mia has 56 videos and 27 photo sets.
Those figures are for 18 Only Girls. If a model appears at this site, she might be found at the sister site, Young Legal Porn, with additional sets.
As far as style, I would say the recent photosets are like Met-art, in that they are glossy photos, with high definition, professionally photographed. The difference is that Met-art, until recently, was nude softcore, but no overt sex. The models did not touch themselves sexually. If there were two female models in a scene, the most overt thing was the two models might kiss on the lips. No boys in the sets ever.
At Diesel, the girls are shown having sex, whether by themselves, with one or more girls, or with a boy and one or more girls.
I am far less technically inclined than you, and I don't apply the same expertise to judging a photo or video.
In your review of ATK Premium, dated 2012-06-04, you write:
"As I am not interested in bg, gg or video, it is hard for me to evaluate the quality of that content."
You're absolutely right, I was always more into pics than vids. There are several reasons for that, which I've mentioned before.
-Pics take less space than vids.
-It's far easier to make an excellent pic than an excellent vid, because there are far fewer factors to control in a pic than a vid.
-Therefor, excellent pics are far more common and easier to find than an excellent vid.
-Also, the time you spend looking at a pic and deciding if good or bad is a fraction of the time needed to do the same for a vid.
-I'm sure there are other considerations, as well, such as the time and money spent looking for sites that you think are worthwhile.
Anyway, I'm simply repeating things you already know.
But it's still worthwhile saying them, I believe.
Personal taste varies widely. What I like can be bland or boring or a waste of time to someone else.
I think Metart is the best site out there, for softcore teen photos. In terms of lovely teen models, quality of the photos, amount of content, and the low price you pay for that content.
Their videos, in contrast, are a waste of time. Boring, in spite of the lovely models.
I can't emphasize enough how much personal taste controls or affects what you like.
I looks at photosets from Femjoy, and I don't like them anywhere near as much Metart photosets. Other PU members have said they prefer the Femjoy approach over Metart, in the photosets. I think Metart uses more photoshopping, and cosmetics, to present the models more attractively. For the same model, who has photosets at Metart and at Femjoy, I will normally enjoy the Metart photosts more. But some PU members have said the Femjoy approach emphasizes the natural beauty of the model.
The Metart videos are boring. Femjoy videos are slighly better, but not by much.
Young Legal Porn and 18 Only Girls are two Diesel network sites with the same site structure, and the content has the same style. The photosets and vids and models could appear at either site. They have two sites, instead of one, for marketing purposes, to make more money.
The two sites have always had models that I thought were attractive. The videos have improved over time, and for years now, have been excellent in terms of definition and other factors.
The photosets had far less value. But over time (years), the photos were improving. And the photosets they are posting now are really nice. So as I said in my review, if they can keep up the quality in the future, these sites will be excellent photo sites in addition to their excellent videos.
Here's what I wrote in an earlier review of 18 Only Girls, dated 2011-01-23:
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
-Long interval before site timeout. Useful if you want to browse site, or download files, and you pause between downloads.
-Tiny, unobtrusive watermark occasionally appears in videos at bottom right corner.
-Tiny, unobtrusive watermark at bottom right corner of some photos. The watermark is so small, you have to examine each photo, to see if it's there or not.
-Soundtrack on most videos, especially the recent ones, is clean, without a lot of extraneous sounds.
-The video quality is some of the best I've seen: great focus, crystal-sharp video, good tracking of the sex action, professional lighting, excellent colors: skin tones, etc.
-There is an alphabetical listing of the models, with a nice-sized thumbnail to show what each model looks like. A really helpful feature that makes searching through the model list so nuch easier.
-Easy site navigation. Helpful, useful hot links to get a model's appearances (videos and photosets).
-The member pages are clean, with no ads.
-No DRM.
Cons:
-The cons are basically minor.
-No model biography.
-Occasionally they change the name of a model, but forget to change the title of the video or photoset she appears in. For example, the photoset named "Beata and the mirror", features the model currently named Belka, who was, evidently, named Beata earlier.
-When the models speak in a foreign language, there are no subtitles to translate. But the words spoken don't have a lot of value, anyway. The sex is what counts.
-If you post a comment, I don't see any way to edit it, for typos or whatever.
-The high-quality file size can be large. A video with a runtime of 23 minutes 12 seconds has a high-quality (1080p) size of 1.6 GB in MP4, and
1.9 GB in WMV. So you need a lot of hard drive space if you want to keep the high-quality files.
-The model page is clean, with no ads. But it would be even better if they simplified the layout. Don't post 2 different thumbnails of the model's last appearance. That's just confusing.
Bottom Line:
CONS (CONTINUED):
A single listing of each appearance would be more intuitive and easier to understand. Also, don't put two hot links for posting a comment on tha model page. Keep the comment link at the bottom of the page, but don't put a second comment link near the top of the page: it's not needed, and just gets in the way. Keep the model page simple.
-Some of the photosets and videos may be at other networks. 2 photosets and 1 video from Nubiles were posted at 18OnlyGirls in some sort of cross-
advertising deal.
Also, some photos and videos at 18OnlyGirls were posted earlier at the Teen Mega World network. This is not cross-advertising, but 2 different networks buying the same content from the same supplier.
The video titled "Waiting To Be Ravaged", featuring Anisiya, was posted 2012-06-10 at 18OnlyGirls. The same video was posted on 2011-02-17 at teensexmovs, a Teen Mega World site. At teensexmovs the video is titled "Anisiya". The video at 18OnlyGirls has more definition choices for download, and the runtime was chopped from 24:46 to 23:12 minutes:seconds.
But the video is basically the same.
However, the model is so cute, and the scene is so hot, that I didn't mind getting a higher-definition version of the same video. And they also made the 18OnlyGirls video have better lighting, better colors, in addition to the higher definition.
So I don't think the duplicated content is bad, especially when the content at 18OnlyGirls is better quality.
BOTTOM LINE:
Site statistics:
Number of videos: 1032
Number of photosets: 1278
Number of models: hundreds
The site preview gives the following statistics:
Number of films: 8,545
Number of images: 384,314
Number of models: 507
I don't know where the site preview is getting it's figures, because I counted the number of videos (movies), and it's far smaller. Also, based on the number of photosets, and the average number of photos in the ones I counted, the number of photos at the site in photosets is far smaller.
Having said that, you still get 1,032 videos, and 1,278 phosets.
-There are two types of live shows: "Diesel Girls Live", and "24/7 Live Channel".
"Diesel Girls Live" features Diesel models who put on a live show. The show is free, and worth watching. Only a few of the Diesel models participate, each show lasts 2 hours, and you get 1, 2 or 3 shows per day.
The "24/7 Live Channel" is a link to models who chat in both public (free) and private mode (paid). The public or free mode is basically worthless. The private (paid) mode is expensive. It's probably cheaper to go to a strip club than to pay for the private shows.
-This is a hardcore teen site. Many of the models are as cute, attractive, even lovely, as you will find anywhere. In the last few years, they have
offered excellent quality videos. The older photosets were not excellent, even when the models were attractive or cute. But the photos I've seen recently are really outstanding, and compare to what you get at Metart or MPL Studios, two sites that specialize in high-quality photos. This is mainly a video site. But if they can post outstanding photosets in the future, as they seem to be doing now, this will be a photo site as well.
I'm giving the site a score of 95. You have some of the most attractive teen models you can find. You have outstanding quality videos. The recent
photosets have improved greatly. The site is easy to navigate. You have fast download speeds. And you don't have to wade through a bunch of junk
to find the worthwhile content: you have great videos and photosets of lovely girls all over the site.
18 Only Girls hot links do not give discounted price.
The PU/TBP price of $19.99 for 1 month membership links do not work.
When you hit the link for PU or TBP to go to the site, and then hit the join page link, you are given a price of $29.99 for 1 month membership, recurring.
There is a separate price of network access, for $39.99 per month, but that is a different membership.
The site and network have a new platform. Not sure exactly what that means.
The preview pages for 18OnlyGirls and YoungLegalPorn look updated.
The preview pages for the sites were good before this, but I think it makes sense to update the preview pages every so often to give them a fresh look to attract more members.
I don't like tattoos. Given how common they are for the models, it shouldn't be a factor, but I just don't like them. So I have no problem if this site (or whoever supplies the photosets) uses a bit of photoshopping to remove tattoos.
I know that different sites use photoshopping to remove birth marks (small colored markings) on some of their models. I think that photoshopping is more common than most people realize.
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
-Videos: Small watermark appears briefly at different times in a video.
Not obtrusive.
-Photos: Small watermark.
-No DRM.
-Videos and photosets have posting date.
-Site has a models list, which is a an alphabetical list/pages of the models, with a nice-sized thumbnail of each model, with the number of photosets and videos for each model.
-Very long period before site timeout.
-Can watch videos streaming or download. The streaming option is not very good. You get a small window to watch the video. Much better to download the video and watch it on your PC. Streaming option is OK to watch briefly to see if the video will be of interest. But trying to fast-forward the streaming video does not work well: the video stops playing, and it's hard to get it to resume at the place you want to try next.
-Zip file for photosets.
-Large number of models (320+).
Cons:
-The software for viewing individual photos is clunky. There should be an easier way to view individual photos.
-Navigation is basic. It should be easier to browse through the photosets and videos. The videos and photosets are split into two separate sections, but it should be easier to browse through the site contents.
-The search is basic, and could be improved by being able to search for the title of a photoset or video, or being able to search for a specific
type of content such as type of sex action, etc.
-No model bio or information on the model is offered.
-One size only for each photoset. No choice of low, medium, high quality photosets.
Bottom Line:
There are a number of attractive models at this site. The site theme is young teen girls who are amateurs. These are not girls being naughty, but
attractive young girls who are filmed on camera enjoying their sexuality: by themselves (masturbation), with their female friends (lesbian), less often with a boy. It's good clean enjoyment and fun, not dirty, not abusive, not rough.
-Large number of models (320+). The models are teen or early twenties, white Eastern European girls. Mainly slender, mainly small-breasted.
Number of models at this site: 320
Number of photos per photoset: 40 - 100 photos.
videos:
number: 800+
runtime: 15-20 minutes
size: 200 MB - 1 GB+, depending on which quality you choose.
Format: WMV
Definition/quality: medium, high, HD (the best, highest quality)
Photosets:
number: 1,000+
Photo dimensions: 1000 x 1500 pixels width x height.
Photo size: about 200 KB.
-Update rate:
1 photoset per day, average.
1 video every 2 days, average.
I don't know why the the photosets at 18 Only Girls are so unsatisfying.
The quality of the photosets is far below what you find at a glamor-style site like Met-art or MPL Studios, in terms of definition, appeal, etc. The style of the photosets is like what is shown at sites like Teen Stars Magazine (an archive site) or My Precious Virgins. Except that what
is shown at Teen Stars Magazine and My Precious Virgins is done much better. The photosets at 18 Only Girls are like a pale imitation of the
much better photosets at the other two sites. And compared to glamor photo sites like Met-art or MPL Studios, the photosets at 18 Only Girls are
almost worthless. The photosets are like snapshots from the 1960s or 1970s. Even though they are nude photosets, the 18 Only Girls photosets lack sexiness. My guess is that the lack of sexual appeal is due to the washed-out appearance of the colors in the photos.
Content appears to be shared between the 18 Only Girls site and the Young Legal Porn site. This is true of photosets and videos. I am looking at a
recent photoset at 18 Only Girls, titled
"Horny_coed_girl_striping_and_toying_her_snatch_1295819441_only_674", with the model named Drew. But even though the photoset is posted at 18 Only
Girls, each photo has a YoungPorn.net watermark.
There seems to be some confusion in naming The Young Legal Porn site: The Young Legal Porn site is called both Young Legal Porn and is also called Young Porn. The site is advertised as Young Legal Porn, but the address bar of the site itself uses YoungPorn instead, and the watermarks on the photosets show YoungPorn.net.
The videos, unlike the photosets, have value. The videos are professionally shot, and are very high quality: Good to excellent lighting, focus, definition, camera-work. There are a large number of videos at this site worth watching, as long as
you are satisfied with a softcore approach to pretty young teens: the sex is solo, or lesbian, or some boy-girl, but it's not hard-edged or abusive.
If you join any 1 site in the network, and remain a continuous member, then, starting the 3rd month, you get access to all 14 sites in the network.
But it's cheaper to just join the network, if you really want to get access to all 14 sites. By joining the network instead of a single site, you get immediate access to all 14 sites. And the price of 3 months of a single site really adds up, so it's less expensive to join the network instead of a single site if you really want access to all the sites.
The wrath of Khan is what you really have to fear. I think that was a Star Trek movie or Star Trek episode, even though our Khan said that he is not related to the Star Trek Khan. You never know about these Khan guys. :)
I agree that Teen Mega World is less expensive, and offers greater quantity (through its network) and better technical quality videos.
But I've been a member of Teen Mega World twice recently. I didn't bother to write any reviews of their sites, because there have already been some fine reviews written by other PU members.
And I was looking for something different.
So in spite of the higher price, I thought I would give 18 Only Girls a try.
And I like that 18 Only Girls is less hardcore than Teen Mega World. I also like that 18 Only Girls has some nice photosets. The photosets, as I mentioned, are not the high quality of sites like Met-art and Mplstudios, but the photosets are still nice. I wish the photosets were better, I wish the videos were better, and there are other ways 18 Only Girls could be improved. But I think it's still a worthwhile site, even though there are better (and cheaper) sites around.
There are plenty of sites that I would like to try. But I only have so much money, and so much time. And it takes a while to go through a single site.
I still need to upgrade my Internet connection, so I can get faster downloads. There are so many photosets and videos to look through, to find something I might really like. And the people at PU are not doing my job for me: they like videos and photosets that I don't. Grrrr.
I need not only a faster Internet connection, but also a couple of clones, that will have my same tastes and opinions, that will search out material that I can really enjoy. But I can't really afford to make or build a couple of clones of myself, at this time. :)
Actually, I read slutty's review of this site yesterday, which is why I decided to join the site today, because of the high score he gave the site.
I also re-read your review of the site yesterday. When I read your review originally, that you wrote back in January of this year, I decided to avoid the site because of the low score you gave it.
I think that slutty's and my and your tastes are somewhat similar, in that we often enjoy similar things. We are not exactly the same, but slutty and you serve as useful guides for me, while other PU members can have far different tastes, and their reviews, although honest, have less relevance for possible sites I might join.
Having said that, I've been thinking about this site for a long time. I think some of the models are very attractive.
Your review put me off the site, and I didn't join, because you gave it a low score.
But slutty's review gave the site a much higher score. He does not think the site (or its network) is perfect, but he thinks it has at least a certain value.
So, because I think there are some really attractive models at this site, I thought it was worth taking a chance that I would appreciate at least some of the site material.
I've been a member of this site for less than a day. And I don't think the site is perfect. But because I really like some of the models, and I have looked at some of the photosets and videos, I think it was, for me, a worthwhile join.
Just signed up for 18OnlyGirls.
Easy signup thru CCBILL. I saw no pre-checked cross-sells. Access to site was immediate, easy login. Had to enter a capcha, but the numbers were easy to read. So far, I like what I see. There are a large number of teen-early 20s models, from Eastern Europe, many of them are cute. Large number of photosets and videos. The style of the photosets is like TeenStarsMagazine or the older photo sites, not high glamor like Metart or Mplstudios, but still nice quality, that could be better. Colors of the phtosets and videos could be better, you don't get the high-quality of top photographers. You get simple photosets. But they are nice, as long as you are not demanding high-definition, strong colors, ultra-sharp, glamor style photos. Site could be better, could be worse. But it's definitely worth a visit if you haven't been here before (as long as you are not too demanding on your photo and video tastes). The site flavor is softcore erotic: it's more hardcore than Metart or Mplstudios, but it's nowhere near the hardcore of your average hardcore video site.
I went from the link at TBP to 18onlygirls and the price I saw for network access to all 14 sites of the network was $39.99/month, recurring. The price listed at PU/TBP for that access is $34.97/month, which is the price it used to be.
Also, the monthly price for access to 18onlygirls is now $29.99/month, recurring, instead of the $24.97, recurring listed at PU/TBP.
They keep fiddling/changing the price at these sites every so often.
I read Denner's review of this site, he gave it a low score of 69, and I decided to stay away. Now I read your review and you give the site a very positive rating.
I'm seriously thinking of joining this site because of your review. If I do join, and find that I don't like the site after all, I'm coming after you for a refund.
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