Thanks for the tip.
Most of the sites I join use CCBILL or EPOCH, and I've never had any trouble cancelling with them.
A few sites have their own payment processors, and I'm a little leery joining them.
But if CCBILL or EPOCH is listed as a secondary processor for those other sites, I will definitely try your trick.
It's worth the extra trouble to get a processor that you can trust.
MBI-Probiller is not a scam processor, but they do make cancelling a subscription more difficult than CCBILL or EPOCH.
With MBI-Probiller, I opened about 4 chat boxes to talk to an agent to cancel.
2 of the chats put me on hold after a representative told me he was transferring me to an agent that could handle the cancel.
After 15 or 20 minutes, I closed those chat boxes.
On the third chat box, I waited over an hour before I closed that box, because no agent came on line.
On the fourth chat box, I got lucky. And was able to cancel my subscription. The agent tried to sell me a cheaper membership, but I kept saying no.
CCBILL and EPOCH are so much easier to use--and to cancel.
WARNING: MBI payment processor is very unresponsive.
I am trying to cancel my membership to Babes network.
Evidently, you can't use the internet to easily cancel.
They state that sending an email takes 3 business days to process.
There is no system to cancel like CCBILL or EPOCH offers.
Trying to use chat to cancel means waiting a long time before someone responds.
First, you get a representative, who says he is transferring you to an agent.
Then you wait, and wait, and wait for an agent to respond.
Cancelling should be easy, not hard.
If need be, I will have to call my credit card company, and refuse payment for the monthly charge.
Maybe it makes sense for them to make it difficult to cancel.
But it destroys customer good will.
My suggestion would be to post your question in the "Threads" section of PU, with details that might focus the possible suggestions.
There are a few PU members that have experience with Japanese porn sites, but I don't know how recent that experience is.
If you are like me, you will probably find All Japanese Pass and JAV HD somewhat disappointing, because they don't display the true beauty of the Japanese models. Which reduces the impact of the videos and photo sets.
Along with the other problems of those sites.
Sorry, I can't give you any specific sites that best suit your needs.
I was into Japanese models about 6 to 10 years ago, even collected model books and had some knowledge of the AV models.
But that was a while ago.
There are several Japanese sites that are covered by PU/TBP. I would read the PU reviews first, because they give a clearer picture of what the sites are like.
Two main ideas to keep in mind:
Are you comfortable with the mosaic censorship? If yes, that widens the sites that might appeal to you.
Do you currently have a basic knowledge of the AV stars--especially the ones you might want to follow?
If yes, that would help narrow the sites that might appeal to you.
Based on my approach, I normally focus on the best looking models. Then I look at their solo, lez, boy-girl video offerings.
The other types of videos don't hold as much interest for me: group sex, bukkake, etc.
The quality of the videos/pictures can make a big difference (for me, anyway).
You watch the videos or photos of Maria Ozawa at All Japanese Pass, or JAV HD, and you won't realize how fucking lovely she can be in other sites. Not that the quality at All Japanese Pass or JAV HD is terrible, but it's not the excellent quality you can find at some Japanese sites, or the quality that is shown at X-Art in their videos and photosets.
Maria Ozawa was one of the biggest AV stars until she more-or-less retired some years back.
The same is true for how the videos and photos illustrate the other models: their beauty/attractiveness is degraded by the lower quality of the videos and photos.
Again, I am not talking about the lowest quality videos at the two sites: I am talking about their highest quality settings for their videos.
But their "high quality" settings don't show the true beauty of these models.
Which takes away much of the value of the videos and photos.
Apparently there is a software glitch with the signup page at the Schoolgirls HD site.
PU support needs to contact the site to solve the problem.
Also, PU needs to contact the site so that the JAV HD site (the network that gives access to Schoolgirls HD) gives the discount that PU shows. The prices the site shows, after using the PU link to go to the JAV HD site, do not show the PU discounts listed.
I believe the update rate is one video + matching gallery per week for FuckedHard18.
But my subscription ran out yesterday, so I can't confirm that.
I had full access to the site through my PornMasterMind membership, which gave me random updates from a number of other sites that I did not have full access to--but were useful in showing me some of what those other sites offered.
I did have full access to MassageGirls18 site through my membership, but I did not enjoy those videos.
At that site, the girl is the one giving the massage. I thought the videos, although still professionally shot, were disappointing compared to the FuckedHard18 videos: the girls were attractive, but the setup was too artificial, the girls had to do more acting, and they are not good actresses, and the sex was not as hot.
Just my opinion. Other people might find the MassageGirl18 videos satisfying. But I thought the erotic massage theme was done well at FuckedHard18, and was poorly done at MassageGirls18. At MassageGirls18, it was more like the guy is not really there to get a massage, but to get a blow job and fuck. Because the massage is not believable, and the girl is there for sex, even though she is supposed to be a masseuse. So the sex is not as hot.
One recent photo set or gallery, for the model Elsa, has 263 photos.
The zip file size is 41.9 MB.
(You don't get to choose the photo definition, as you would at a high-end photo site).
Each individual photo is about 200-250 KB.
The dimensions of the photo are 1024x1536.
Width: 1024 pixels
Height 1536 pixels
Horizontal resolution 96 dpi
Vertical resolution 96 dpi
Bit depth 24
These photos are not the high-quality you find at high-grade sites like MetArt or MPL Studios or Femjoy.
There are more like high-quality screen-shots, because like I said in my review, I assume they were shot during the video shoot, or maybe there is a software program that creates high-quality screen shots from a video shoot.
Setting the options to display 1,000 thumbnails per page makes it easier to view the thumbnails for an entire gallery, without having to click through different pages.
I hope I did not come across as negative on my review of Erotic Beauty.
I think it's a fine site, and I've been a monthly member of the site for over 2 years now, since I was offered a very inexpensive membership price.
But I think that for most people, that a membership to MetArt is the better value, since most people will pay the same monthly or yearly fee to belong to MetArt or Erotic Beauty, and MetArt has far more content, as well as a few other advantages over Erotic Beauty.
Prices listed for Yonitale are wrong.
The prices I see at the Yonitale site are:
30 days no rebill $24.99
monthly rebill $19.99
6 months rebill $49.99
1 year no rebill $100.00
Even though there are many videos that I don't appreciate, I think the network has enough videos that are to my liking that I think it has value for me.
Having said that, my review implied that the network could easily have enough videos that might be appreciated by others for it to be worth joining.
Both my score and the facts/opinions I wrote implied the network has value.
But I definitely think the navigation of the network could be improved. Just my opinion. But I don't find the network as easy to use as other "mega-sites" that have a large volume of videos.
I think the navigation has been improved somewhat, because many years ago, I seem to remember that if you wanted to switch from one site to another, you had to re- login to the new site you wanted. That is no longer the case, you can now switch sites without have to re-enter your username and password.
Also, as part of the navigation, the thumbnail listing of the pornstars has improved. Several years ago, there were many blank spaces in the thumbnail listing (with no picture of the pornstar, just a name). And I believe the thumbnail images are also improved, whether it's a larger thumbnail, or a better picture of the model, from years ago.
You seem to have at least some experience in porn.
But what you are looking for "women OTHER than your stereotypical Hot teen/early 20s woman" is more of a niche product. Yes, there might be sites catering to that, but they are, as you implied, in the minority.
Glamcore sites are gaining interest, but the content is limited compared to mainstream teen/early 20s women.
As far as Asian, Asian women are some of the most beautiful in the world.
One problem with Japanese porn is the mosaic effect, which is required by Japan.
There are some Japanese porn sites that have some content without the mosaic.
If the mosaic bothers you, you can do google searches of PornUsers.com to see what the members have said about sites that might or might not offer some mosaic-free content.
But most Asian sites focus on the teen/early 20s models.
Do a google search (I'm not expert on Google searches) for PU members who like and have commented on sites that feature mature models. But I don't recall, off-hand, that they have mentioned sites that are combined mature models + glamcore, or non-white models + glamcore.
But like I said, the internet is big, so hopefully you will find sites that you think are worth the money to join.
When you think about it, a large part of enjoying porn is in the hunt.
When you find content that you really like, that is the payoff. But, hopefully, you will appreciate search, as well.
The Porn Users site can be a resource to check on porn sites
And most members are friendly, and willing to share their knowledge and interests.
But porn is a hobby, not a business, for most of us. LOL.
Wow Girls, Wow Porn, and 18 Only Girls are strong in hardcore videos.
Those sites cost about $30, so they are more expensive than Met-Art.
Those site are borderline glamcore.
I think 18 Only Girls is the best value of the three, because it has the most content.
There are different options to join:
You can join any one of the 3 sites by itself, or you can join all 3 sites, but it gets expensive.
Lovely models, professionally shot videos, and the quality of the photo sets has increased in recent years--but not quite to the level of Met-Art or MPL Studios.
There are a bunch of other glamcore sites that were created the last few years.
What is the best value for you is truly personal: what your likes are, what you enjoy.
Do you focus on photos, videos, what type of women do you like (age, body type, race), softcore, hardcore, fetishes, etc.
The Met-Art network, which might have sites that you would find interesting.
Can you be more specific in what you are looking for? And the truth is, I'm not a real expert on porn or glamcore: other PU members might quibble about what glamcore is, or even what softcore midcore or hardcore is. Everyone seems to have their own opinions.
I'm rambling, but you or I could write book-length replies on what "glamcore" sites you might like. :)
There are a number of glamcore sites. Most of them good, but it's a question of how much money do you want to spend.
Unlimited money, a lot to explore.
But for most people, you only join one or two sites, on a limited budget.
First, what are your interests, likes?
Do you want mainly photos, or mainly videos, or a combination of the two?
What type of women are you interested in? All ages, teen, mature, what?
Ethnicity: most sites are mainly white models, but some sites emphasize other races as well.
For teen to early 20s women, photos only, softcore, Met-Art is my favorite site.
The site also has a lot of videos of beautiful naked women, but I find the videos almost all boring, and so do most other members at PU who have commented.
But at $20/month, or $99/year if you really like the site, this is a great value.
MPL Studios is also a good choice. Mostly softcore, but the videos have a slightly harder edge than Met-Art.
$30/month membership.
Excellent review.
I agree with almost everything you wrote.
Also, pleasantly surprised you gave Met-Art a score of 99.
Makes me feel that I am in good company. :)
I agree the old format is much easier and simpler to use.
Plus, it's the once I've been accustomed to.
Separately, the new format can mess up the intro page.
A few days ago, the new format page came up automatically, and everything was in tiny size. The thumbnails were tiny, the text size was tiny, and there were 2 black bars on the sides of the page that took up most of the page.
I sent an email to Met-Art support, asking how to get rid of the page and return to the old format.
Support emails me back, within a few hours, but their reply was not useful. They said they could not duplicate the effect that I was seeing for the Met-Art page.
I increased the size of the page using the VIEW-ZOOM option on my Firefox browser, and that allowed me to find the icon to return to the old format. (I couldn't read the page in the new format since everything was so tiny, except for the 2 black bars which were taking up most of the page.)
Anyway, I will use the old format as long as I can.
I have been dinged a few times by the pre-checked cross sales.
From my experience, what I've learned:
You can not get a refund on a pre-checked cross sale.
Even if you call the billing company within minutes of the pre-checked cross sale going through, and even if you have never used the subscription to the pre-checked cross sale site, you will still not get a refund.
The only thing you can do is cancel the subscription to the pre-checked cross sale site as soon as possible, so you won't be billed the expensive, additional charge for the cross sale site going into the monthly rate.
Because the monthly rate for the cross sale site is almost always very expensive, much more than the normal monthly rate for the site you can find elsewhere.
So it definitely pays to examine any site join page, to make sure any pre-checked cross sells are unchecked.
A fine, professional review.
I'm putting this network on my list of sites to join.
I was put off by the stupid-sounding network name, but your review has sold me.
LOL.
Brings back fond memories of looking at photos on a CRT monitor.
Actually, my LCD monitor recently went out, and I'm now using an old CRT monitor I still have, until I buy a new LCD monitor replacement.
The LCD monitors really have a much better image than the old CRT monitors (or maybe I'm just talking about all the spots on my old CRT monitor that I am currently using).
I'm on a very tight budget myself, or I would be if I had more financial self-discipline.
I'm aware that because of the internet, the prices for wonderful porn are far cheaper than what the prices were 20 or 30 or 40 years ago.
But still, having a limited amount of cash to pay for porn, as is true for most people, the cost for each site has to be considered. Along with, the quality of the site: site content, site ease of use, and other factors you consider when deciding whether to join a site or not.
Basically, it comes down to: is the site membership worth the cost?
So I think that it makes sense to write that $30/month for FTV is expensive, compared to other sites that are $20/month, that offer a large amount of professional photo sets of lovely young models.
I'm not saying that FTV is a waste of money.
FTV is an excellent site.
I am saying that I would rather spend less money for access to other excellent sites: photo sites like Metart, MPL studios, Femjoy.
Or video/photo sites like X-art. Or Teen Mega World (not a photo site, but massive amount of hardcore teen videos with a huge amount of attractive models).
Thanks for the confirmation.
Sometimes, cookies or other problems show a faulty price, so I can never be sure if the price has changed, or if there is a computer error, or some other problem.
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