Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Some PU members will not agree with my opinion on the models at Femjoy needing more makeup, because it's a matter of individual taste. They view Femjoy as a special, almost rare site that features a very natural look of very little make-up, little photoshopping. But I personally don't mind some make-up or photoshopping, as long as it's not overdone. Until I got a comment about that, I always thought I was the one who wanted minimal makeup and photoshopping, but no matter where you stand, there are always people further out on both sides of any issue than you are. Lol.
I'm the honest type, so I wouldn't lie. I'd just say I don't have any, meaning I don't have any to share, because like Drooler, I'd be hearing about it for the rest of my life. Actually, I think I was an only child, because my brother is totally unlike me, and he can't be related by blood, even though we both had the same parents. Maybe he was put here on Earth by aliens. Is there any Z-ray that I can use to test that theory?
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
PROS:
-Over 200.000 poster size photos
-All photo series come in up to 4000 pixels resolution.
-Photo sets available in 3 different sizes: hi res, med res, lo res
-Zips for photo sets, for each res: hi, med, lo
-over 700 models, many are extremely attractive
-over 100 contributing photographers
-830 additions per year
-10 new HDV movies per month
-Tiny watermark
-No download limit
-No DRM
-choice of multiple formats and definitions for downloading videos
-special new low price $29.95(USD) for 60 days/recurring
-billing from CCBill, a reliable outside billing company
Cons:
PROS: (continued)
-content 100% exclusive to this site
-updates are dated
-no automatic time-out from site
CONS:
-Basic navigation, could be a little easier to use. To download a photoset or video, select the model, look at the photosets or videos available, select the photoset or video you want, then (if it's a photoset) select the res you want, and download the zip file. At met-art, it just seems
simpler to download the zip files than at femjoy.
-Searching is easier at met-art than at femjoy.
-Site is strictly soft softcore. No hardcore at all. Girls only. Boys not allowed. If a girl
touches herself, or one girl touches another, it is the lightest brush, not erotic at all.
-Don't always prominently list who the photographer is for each photo set or video. So if you want to know the photographer (to keep a personal, manually created list of the photosets, date of posting, title, photographer, etc.), you have to hunt around to see who the photographer was.
Bottom Line:
CONS: (continued)
-Limited to slender white European teen. Site advertises that models are from all over the world, but everything I saw looked to be indistinguishable from teen European. "Our girls come from all over the world - even from Spain, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, the US, Scandinavia and not only from Eastern Europe."
Well, from the geography I learned in the Dark Ages (1960s), Spain, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, and Scandinavia were in Europe. The US might not be in Europe, but how can you tell a US model from a model who is European? Simple answer: Look at her passport. Duh. Everything I saw at Femjoy was European teen, as far as I could tell.
-Most photo sets are solo models
-A small percentage of photo sets and videos are two female models. But there is no erotic contact
between the models, unless you can sense the Vulcan mind-meld auras within the models.
-Model bios: none
BOTTOM LINE:
This is one of the better/best softcore European teen glamour photo mega-sites.
The site ranks up there with met-art, mplstudios, justteensite, mypreciousvirgins, etc.
The main value is in the photosets. Huge number of models, a large number should appeal to almost
anyone's taste (but almost all models are slender white European teen).
There are a number of short videos, 2-6 minutes long, super softcore, high quality, great focus,
good to very-good color, good lighting, nice soundtrack.
The videos are more interesting than met-art videos, but that is not saying much. You are watching a lovely girl doing very little: she stands up, sits, lies down, smiles, walks. There is no plot to the videos. Another nice factor in the Femjoy videos is how clean they are, in the sense you don't hear a distracting photographer giving directions, you don't have annoying photoflashes going off in the video shoot.
There are a large number of Femjoy member comments inside the site about how great the models look, how wonderful the photography is, how artistic and erotic the photos and videos are, how this is a wonderfully clean site with no dirty, vulgar elements. If you are into super softcore, with models wearing minimal makeup, no tease at all (unless you supply it yourself in your own mind), this is the site for you.
Even though Met-art is very simllar to this site in the softcore approach, I find Met-art photos
much more satisfying: the models at Met-art are better looking because of greater use of make-up,
greater use of costumes, with more effort put into making the photoshoots more individualistic with varied sets and backgrounds.
I think Met-art navigation is simpler and easier to use to search the models available. It is also
easier to download the files at Met-art.
If Femjoy deserves an 87 for its fine photography, then Met-art deserves a 97 for its fine, more erotic photography, plus easier navigation, plus free video cams. There are no free video cams at Femjoy.
What are the number of video updates at Hustler for 2009?
I would like to hear from someone at Hustler that can indicate in a clear and specific way
what the number of latest updates have been made in 2009 and what is the normal update sequence.
Also, some of the latest movies are only steaming. I would like to know why some are only streaming and some are not.
Thank you,
Bruce
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(Note to PU staff: Please credit this comment to bruce987. He made a reply to an earlier comment of mine, lk2fireone, but should have submitted it as a new comment, instead of submitting it as a reply to an older comment.)
I don't have much experience with videos. I'm more into softcore teen photos. There are members at PU who have extensive hardcore video experience, so maybe one or more of them might reply on what are the better hardcore video sites with teen content.
DRM was reported as removed. That should not be a concern any longer.
But updates are iffy. There is no update log, so it's not that easy to determine how many updates you will find at the site if you were a previous member.
TBP (the parent site of PU) reports that Hustler is supposed to update 3 times a week. But what a site is supposed to do and actually does can often differ.
The most recent review of Hustler at PU was dated 01-24-09, by Trashman. He reported there were "no updates for 2009 yet. Last movie update was Dec 26."
I would suggest making a new comment for Hustler, asking how many updates there have been since the start of 2009, and hope that you get a response from some knowledgeable PU member. By making a new comment, instead of putting your reply on this older comment, you will get better visibility, and a better chance one of the PU members will respond.
I guess there's a ton I don't know about pictures.
Landscape? Is that where the girl lays out flat, or on her side, so you can determine the best way to approach her?
With the modern generation of models, it doesn't really matter if the girl is standing up, laying down, upside down, or even head down in the toilet bowl, I've seen videos where the guy(s) just start banging away whatever.
I think pictures have a bit more class than most of the videos I've seen. Some pictures can be erotic, or have a real artistic quality to them, and the models can look stunning, gorgeous, lovely, or just yummy.
Personally, I download the high-res pictures more often than the low- or medium-res, in case I want to study them for some reason. But I usually view the picture to fit the monitor. Scrolling to view a picture is not enjoyable, for me. Like I say, if I want to examine a picture for some reason, I will switch the view to scan/scroll, but to simply enjoy the picture, I want to see the entire image.
If you're not into "shaved", you're really limited by what is out there. Most models are shaved. I would prefer a trimmed look, that was popularized by Playboy back in the 1970s-1980s, but "shaved" is what's popular today.
I honestly don't know where you're getting your video fix if you're into softcore (like I am). The sites offering softcore video (that are also teen softcore) are like Met-art and Femjoy. Met-art videos are teen softcore, and they are almost uniformly boring. Gorgeous girls, but boring videos. Femjoy has softcore teen videos, that are slightly more enjoyable than Met-art, but you are watching lovely young girls, but without any sense of the erotic. The girls are lovely, but the videos are only slightly less boring than the Met-art videos. I think the main reason the Femjoy videos are less boring is that they are shorter (I'm not joking, I really think that is the main reason, but also, the Femjoy videos are somehow better shot).
I am definitely a teen glamor type. Also enjoy pix more than vids, because they are easier to deal with. So when I looked at most of the niche sites here, it was just out of curiosity. For me, the value is mainly Devilsfilm and Silverstone, which have some nice-looking young models. But I was just pointing out that for people with other tastes, for $14.95, it might be worth a look-see.
I really have little experience with most DVD sites. But this network offering is so much better than Pornaccess, which is also offered by the same company. Pornaccess was almost a total waste for me, with so many low-quality vids, unattractive models, and terrible navigation.
I just saw your review for White Ghetto. The review seems clear and sensible: "The great divide again: if you like beauty and glamor stay away, if you like rude and raw and not always pretty then I recommend this site to you."
There are a lot of PU members who want something other than teen glamor, and this network might offer it to them.
But for me, I try to find teen glamor, or at least good-looking teens, in this network.
Do you have any hints to make my search easier?
Sites I found in this network, so far, which have good-looking teen models include: Devilsfilm
Silverstone PeterNorth
Currycreampie, for hardcore models outside the teen European mix
This site is part of the netFameSolutions network, who offer Devilsfilm and Silverstone. Currycreampie uses Indian models from India.
(mbaya pointed out in a comment dated 08-26-08 that some of the "Indian" models are non-Indians dressed up to look like Indians)
Silverstone has a number of DVDs with Brazilian models.
The sites are part of a network, with a low monthly membership fee ($14.95 thru PU), offering good quality DVDs, basic navigation.
There are a number of other sites in the network, offering niche products: granny; big-sized models; hairy models; lesbian; milf; etc.
Not all sites are have as much content as Devilsfilm and Silverstone. But for $14.95/month, it's worth joining the network for a look around.
I only mentioned leaving out PU from your email because normally it's better to keep things simple. Less confusion that way, easier to understand.
I agree that you should have gotten the $14.95 rate when you were rebilled for 30 days, because that's the rate the signup page shows.
If you don't get that rate, instead are charged $24.95, send a second email explaining you sent a first request, and this is a second request for a refund since you are being overcharged for your subscription. And send the details of why you are being overcharged in the second email.
If you don't get satisfaction, go to your credit card company, and they should credit you with the $10 difference.
One quibble: I see a "$4.95 Two Day Trial Membership". This is shown both at PU and at the nakedcloset site signup page. Unless you specifically remember that your trial membership was for 3 days, it was more likely for 2 days.
Could you explain in more detail exactly what happened, in terms of your membership?
What length membership did you first join for?
2-day trial
1 month non-recurring
monthly, recurring
The $24.95 charge you are talking about, is for what, exactly:
A 30 day membership, the first one
An additional 30 day membership
A different membership period
It's easy to get angry about extra charges, but I think you will be better off if you make clear, in your email to support or billing, the details of why you believe you were overcharged.
If you don't get satisfaction from support or billing, you can have your credit card company reverse the excess charge.
But it really helps if you explain simply to whoever you are talking to the details of what went wrong.
But I personally agree 100% that you should be entitled to the prices at the page you originally used to sign up.
Edit: A side note: Unless the PU page directly applies to the problem, you're better off leaving out any mention of PU in your complaint. That just adds confusing and un-needed details to the problem.
Drooler writes: "What's with this shooting the women in so much darkness? SuperNiceGirls is especially a noctural site at any hour! WTF!"
I hadn't seen supernicegirls site before. Models look good. Main problem, besides the newness of site with small number of photos, is they can't afford to pay their electricity bill. My eyes can't see what the photos are supposed to be showing. Or maybe that's the point: tease by darkness, where you can't see the body of the model because the freaking photo is so dark. Maybe that's the new arty style, but I like to see what the girl looks like.
Just joined devils film today through a special low-priced offer. I was a member at pornaccess, so I received an emailed offer to join devils film for 30 days.
Signup was fast and easy.
Just remember to uncheck the "special trial offer subscription" to pornaccess or whatever other site they are offering, unless you want to join that other trial.
Access to devils film site was immediate. No waiting for membership to be processed.
Also, immediately received 2 emails:
1. confirmation of membership subscription, with membership pricing specified.
2. separate email for username and password, and email support address.
This was a nice, clean signup.
I am also impressed by how nice the site (devils film) is laid out, compared to pornaccess. Even though both sites are apparently run by the same company, devils film seems to be much cleaner, and much easier to use.
I just joined, so I really know little about the site so far, but am impressed by the first video I am looking at streaming: it was so easy to click and start the video, easy to navigate to the video, the video looks nice and clean.
This site, in my opinion, very tentative so far, is so much better than pornaccess.
As a young man, badandy400, you can afford to go without sleep. But old fogies like Drooler and me (I'm mentioning Drooler since he seems to keep late hours for no good reason) need lots of sleep. Instead, I get up at night and look at PU. Go figure.
I'm on the West Coast (California), so I don't know why a young guy like you would be up at 4 am looking at porn.
We all need to get a life. Lol.
By the way, congratulations on your recent Raffle win. You deserve it for your many great reviews.
Softcore teen glamour is the niche that needs the most attention from porn developers these days. I don't really care for most other niches, and since the American way is to look out for number one, I should be voting for what interests me. That's only sensible.
You watch television, movies, porn, you look at magazines, you read books, see a play, you go to school: all this obviously has an effect on your sex life. The State (government, in other words) should control our lives from the moment of our birth, so that we are normal adults who will have proper sex lives.
Every so often I get a popup message from my Firefox browser stating a URL I am trying to go to is a dangerous site, and do I want to continue? Normally, I don't continue, but stay away from that site.
But I get no warning message if I go to hungarianhoneys site, nor do I get any warning message when I go to the hungarianhoneys models page.
Maybe you can try going back there again, to see if you get any warning message. They have some good-looking models, but I've never been a site member.
OK, I'm expecting a second vote of no confidence from Mr Fountain, on my opinion that femjoy models would be improved by more makeup.
But are there any PU members that agree with me? Or is this too much of a niche/nitpicking idea to concern my fellow PU members?
I don't have anything against natural. But makeup can bring out a girl's beauty. If you compare the photosets of the models below, I think the photosets of those models are, in general, better looking at met-art than at femjoy.
Photoshop is used more at met-art. As long as it's not overdone, it can add.
But that's a matter of personal taste. Just as two people looking at a list of models will probably not rank them all in the same descending order of beauty/attractiveness.
Angelina B(femjoy) aka Indiana A(met-art)
Anina(femjoy) aka Anna AO, Anna AS(met-art) aka Sinner and other names at metmodels
Brigita(femjoy) aka Natalia A(met-art)
Desiree (femjoy) aka Desire A(met-art)
And there are a bunch of other models that are featured at both femjoy and also at met-art, where you could compare the relative attractiveness of the photosets.
Femjoy models need more makeup in their photosets and videos.
This is a matter of personal taste or personal opinion. But:
I've been a member of femjoy about a month now. The site has some great-looking models, that you will see at other teen glamour sites. And the photography is high quality by top erotic photographers. But my gripe is that the models basically need more makeup to bring out their attractiveness. I'm not big on models (or people in regular life) wearing excessive makeup. But with a video or photoshoot, unless you use a minimum of makeup, the model will normally appear less attractive. Met-art usually gets it close to right, and the models usually appear to be attractive to very attractive. Femjoy uses less makeup on their models. The same models, the same photographer, and the photoset will be better looking at met-art than at femjoy. That is partly because of the makeup difference; also met-art allows more variety of costumes.
femjoy is almost entirely nude, very little use of clothing/costume, and any clothing used at femjoy is very simple. Femjoy is going for a very simple, natural style of photography with their models, and it detracts from the presentation of the models. I realize appreciation of a model's beauty is a personal taste, but if you see the models of Victoria's secret, or world-class supermodels photographed without makeup, and in old, cheap un-colorful clothes, it takes away a huge amount of the glamour and allure of the models.
There are a huge number of lovely models at femjoy, but the photosets don't bring out the eroticism of the models. The site is trying to present lovely girls as "the girl next door", with a very natural, simple style, but the style reduces the attractiveness of the models in the photosets.
Even if you are using the "girl next door" theme, which was probably first made popular with Playboy back in the 1950s and 1960s, for nude photography, you still want the model and photos to be as attractive as possible, with an erotic appeal. You don't want to take a good-to-great-looking girl, and produce a bunch of photographs that just look blah and unappealing. Met-art, in general, takes good-looking girls and makes good-to-great-looking photos. Femjoy takes the same girls, and makes photos that are less good-looking. That's a shame.
I see from the comments and reviews that other PU members don't necessarily agree with my opinion on the need for more makeup at femjoy. But I think my opinion has merit, and frankly, I'm surprised some PU member hasn't already expressed a similar opinion.
Review with nice details. But it sounds like you're getting a little bored with porn. It happens to all of us. Hopefully it passes, and we can appreciate all the beautiful girls out there again.
Review has lots of nice details. If money is no object, then belonging to both met-art and metmodels would be nice. Because then you would get to see all the sets at both sites. But since money is limited for most of us, met-art is the better value. The quality and style (teen glamour) of both sites is basically the same. The main difference is that met-art has a huge amount of content compared to metmodels.
Every once in a while, PU members come up with some crazy ideas. I guess it's helpful to establish a baseline for sanity. Maybe weight-watchers should hire Drooler as a consultant.
Celebrities, at least the famous ones, get a ton of recognition. It's one of the perks, though celebrities often complain they are not seeking the fame and don't want it. They are really simple folk: they only want the cash, and people to bow down before them whenever they appear in public.
I'm waiting till I have enough bucks from the Tuesday Raffle to buy my sound system. At the rate I'm going, that will be sometime in 3035, or thereabouts.
After listening to the sound track on a lot of porn videos, I'd rather go deaf than blind. Sometimes you can find attractive models/actors in porn videos. But to find a good sound track is extremely difficult.
On the other hand, hairy palms is a signal of virility, I always thought.
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