We have a black president.
Gays/lesbians are accepted in open society, some states even recognize same-sex marriages.
Why can't porn stars be accepted as contributing members of society?
The regular price for site membership is $29.95/month recurring.
With your promo code, REDUC33, the price is $19.95/month recurring.
Using the PU link to join site, the price is $14.95/month recurring.
The cheapest way to join, is to use the PU link to the site, and then join, using the $14.95/month price that is enabled thru the PU/TBP link.
Using the promo code you show, brings up a higher price of $19.95/month recurring.
I agree with you.
But...
There is a recent poll, dated 06-27-09, that asks if you would consider joining a non-nude model site. 42% of the people voting answered "yes". There were 38 votes total as of today. Frankly, I was suprised the percentage was so high, because most of the members posting reviews and in the forums seem to prefer nudity and more explicit sites.
Evidently there are a lot of PU members that might consider joining this site, if they thought the girl was hot enough. This is a good-looking girl, and the sample photos are nice tease. So for people who really enjoy this niche, it could be worth joining.
The people who make porn (the actors, models, cameramen, whoever) make up the porn industry.
The people who make cars (at GM, Ford, Toyota, etc.) are the car (auto) industry. But the people who sell cars and who service cars might also fit into the car industry. The people who drive cars or are passengers in cars are not considered part of the car industry.
The same for the software industry. The people who write software, or sell the software, make up the software industry. The people who use software are not usually considered part of the software industry.
But why do you say "the whole notion of a porno industry is ludicrous."
Apparently you enjoy porn. And you realize it's made by people, sold by people. So why is it strange or foolish to call porn an industry? Porn is a market/industry with billions of dollars in sales every year.
I might join a free non-nude modeling site, if I liked the model(s). But for a paysite modeling site, I definitely want to see all of her. She might start off with clothes, but if she doesn't take it all off, I would wonder why I joined.
I personally don't care that much about academy awards or the awards given out for porn stars.
Academy awards do much a huge difference in the careers/salaries of actors. I don't know how much the porn awards affect the careers of the porn stars.
As a pat on the back, I have nothing against academy awards or porn star awards.
As far as who should vote on these, I think the fans should have as much or more say than the insiders. Insiders are the only voters for the academy awards, because supposedly they are the experts who are qualified to vote. By that reasoning, maybe the insiders are the only ones who should pay to see those pictures, and the fans should either get to see the pictures for free, or we should just skip seeing "movie" pictures, since we are not qualified to evaluate the pictures compared to the expert insiders.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
-For those looking for variety from European teens, this network offers a number of Brazilian models at SilverstoneDVD, as well as Indian models at Curry Creampie, plus other ethnic types.
-Updates: 1 scene/clip every 5 days
-Watermark. Fairly small, bottom right corner (could be smaller, but somewhat unobtrusive)
-Choice of 2 file sizes for download, small and big
-Can download clip or watch it streaming
-Screen caps give good idea of video clip, but useless as picture to enjoy
-DRM: none
-Download limits: none
-Easy log-on. Usually no secret word to guess, when there is a secret word, it is easily visible
-No automatic timer cutoff from site, even when you are inactive
Cons:
-Search engine at silverstonedvd could be a lot better.
-Clips download as WMV files, no other download choices
-There is a page where they show a number of nice-sized thumbnails of some of the models. This is the "models" page in the preview. It would be great if they could show all the models at the site, and not just a few (20 models shown on that page). There is no "models page" inside in the members area to show you what the models look like.
-Stats: people like to know how many models are featured at the site, how many DVDs or DVD clips. I see no listing at the silverstoneDVD site.
From the TBP site: 121+ DVDs (approx. 100 min. each)
-Billing by famebill. No billing by CCBill or Epoch.(But I found the signup process to be quick and easy, with no problems.)
Bottom Line:
The netFameSolutions network offers Devilsfilm and SilverstoneDVD, along with 17 other sites,
for a low monthly membership fee ($14.95 thru PU). All the sites I saw have the same basic layout: nice quality DVDs, basic navigation.
You are not getting super high quality clips, but you are getting good quality clips, that are professionally shot: good focus, good lighting, good colors of the models and the sets. The clips are straight sex, no plot or story. Soundtrack ok, usually not as much fake moaning and groaning, background music ok: both moaning/groaning and background music could be improved, but still better than some of the terrible clips I have seen from other sources. Moaning/groaning is supposed to add to the excitement of the clip, but when it's so obviously fake, it doesn't add, it seems stupid. And the background music just gets in the way, so you wonder if it's better to watch the clip with with no sound, or to try to ignore the music.
There are a number of other sites in the network, offering niche products: granny; big-sized models; hairy models; lesbian; milf; etc.
My main complaint about the site (and the other sites in the network) is that a lot of clips don't identify the model(s) in the clips. So how can you search for other clips that particular model might be in if you don't know her name?
In porn, it's easier to find quality photos of beautiful young women, than it is to find quality videos of beautiful young women. There are just too many elements in a video that can detract from the pleasure of looking at a lovely woman.
Do the clips feature attractive girls, is the sex exciting, boring, disgusting, how much distraction is there from fake groans, noisy background music, lousy lighting, etc.
SilverstoneDVD has a number of very good-looking young models, with a number of nice-quality clips.
As a solo site, it would not be worth joining. But as part of a nice network, it's definitely worth a 1-month membership to see all this network has to offer.
I am giving this site a score of 87, based on the network, not as an individual site. I find it difficult/meaningless to grade the site as a solo site, when so much of the value comes from the network's other sites that are included in the membership price.
This is a softcore teen site. Mainly photos, with a few videos.
So far only 1 review, back in Oct. 2007, by Drooler. He gave a 72 rating, meaning site barely acceptable. Since there are many sites in the 80s and 90s, it's probably not worth joining this site.
A 3-day trial (with full privileges) is $12.99. Since a 1-month membership (recurring) is $19.99, I think it's better to go for the 1-month membership. $12.99 seems expensive for 3 days, especially since I don't have the super-fast download capability of some of the PU members.
What piques my interest in the site are some of the very good-looking models. A few sample photos I've seen of some of the models look yummy.
I realize there are sites in this category that are better value (more content, greater variety of models, probably better site navigation, more frequent update schedule, etc.), but I think the site is probably worth a 1-month membership. That's personal opinion, personal taste.
Would any recent members comment with their opinion on the value of the site, whether they thought the site was worth joining or not? Their likes or dislikes about the site?
Have there been any PU members who joined this site in the last 6 to 12 months?
I agree Eva is very nice-looking, but on a cost-value basis, I think I'll go for a teen mega-site, like mypreciousvirgins or something similar. Solo teen sites are tempting, but too expensive, unless I'm ready to marry the girl inside. :)
Have any PU members joined this site? Eva is cute girl, but site preview is very limited.
Site advertises "updates monthly". I'm glad the site appears to be truthful, but it's difficult to think a site is worth more than a 1-month membership with a monthly update schedule.
What is amount of site content, and quality of content?
The pictures? The videos?
If membership gives you access to this site only, it's hard to justify even a 1-month membership to this site, unless you're absolutely crazy about this model named Eva.
I respect my personal right to privacy. But for the right amount of consideration(cash), I might be tempted into submitting action shots of some of my fellow PU members, if I were allowed to be the photographic/cinematographic director and could be assured that the photos had artistic and financial integrity. These photos could present a better alternative to the avatars some PU members are posting.
Explicit is in the eyes of the beholder, the same as personal taste. In the United States, Playboy used to be prosecuted for obscenity, and that is a softcore magazine that in those days basically showed a few solo girl spreads with nudity but no masturbation or any sexual
action at all. Around the 1970s, I think (not really sure, my memory is really poor sometimes) a lot of drugstore and convenience store chains in the U.S. were forced to stop carrying Playboy because of public sentiment and lawsuits. Those stores that did carry Playboy (and Penthouse and most certainly Hustler) had to keep the magazines hidden away from public view because minors might be corrupted by the magazines. So the stores that carried Playboy kept the magazine in a special adult section or hidden away under the counter.
I don't know if Playboy is still being prosecuted for pornography in the U.S. today, but back in the 1960s, 1970s, etc., when it was being prosecuted, it was more softcore than what you find at Met-art or Femjoy, which are major softcore sites today. By that, I mean the pubic area back then was covered with natural pubic hair. Today you see the bare look at Femjoy and Met-art, with no hair covering the pubic region, so the pubic region is much more exposed, or completely exposed today.
Original Link of News http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25641940-2862,00.html
Basically, the first post quotes a newspaper article stating that it's illegal to make money from porn films in Victoria, Australia, and that the police raided the office of G Media, which runs the Abby Winters web sites.
The long-term future of the G Media company, and its web sites, is apparently unclear.
Abby winters is a major internet porn site, and this is really a kick in the head to the porn community.
If a girl looks anywhere near a teen, then a teen site will accept her photos. The teen site might advertise that the models are teens, and they might even start out that way, but as time goes on, they will probably accept photos of anyone that looks young. Would they turn down photos of a young woman in her 20s? As long as she looks good or OK, I can't see a teen site turning down her photos.
Met-art was based on the idea of "Most Erotic Teens" art, and most of their models in their introductory photo sets are teens or in early 20s.
As for giving an accurate age for the models in the photo sets: most teen sites don't. They market the models as teens, because that's what the target audience is looking for, no matter what the ages of the models actually are.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
PROS:
-Advertise 1000+ movies
-Advertise exclusive content
-Advertise 2400 Gigs
-Advertise daily updates
-No timeout from site
-Vid caps available for video clips-not good as a picture to enjoy, but good for illustrating the
video content of the clip
-the videos are good quality: they are not the very high quality super softcore like you will find at Femjoy, but these are well shot porn videos: good focus, good lighting, good skin colors, a lot of the vids have attractive female models. No story to the video clips, just straight hardcore sex.
These are professionally shot videos (not amateurish videos where they often cut off the model's head from the shot, use a jerky, hand-held camera, etc.)
-videos are clean: no annoying remarks by cameraman/director; no annoying flashes and clicks of a photographer separately photographing the video shoot
-no download limits
-no DRM
-large number of different categories/niches
-easy to use streaming option to watch the video clips
Cons:
PROS(cont):
-Can download movies as .wmv files in choice of 2 file sizes: small and large
-personal taste-most of the clips I saw had models with "natural"-appearing breasts. I like
natural, not the huge fake breasts many porn stars have. So this was positive for me. Also, there are a large number of good-looking young models in the vid clips
-search by movie title, category/niche, name of model, devils film series
-easy logon. Don't have to play "Enter the secret letters" game, just username and password
CONS:
-no simple listing of date video was posted
-no simple listing of model name in video segment(many clips, don't know who the model is)
-most video sites have multiple formats for download, devils film only has .wmv format
-minor quibble-There is some duplication of video clips. Not a lot. Where the same video clip is given a different file name. 2689_07_big.wmv and 0658_03_big.wmv are the same video clip, with different file names.
Bottom Line:
CONS(cont):
The title name for the first one is: "18 year Olds Love Cum #02 - Scene 7"
The title name for the second one is: "Eight Teen Tryouts #09 - Scene 3"
Maybe the distribution company put the same video clip on two separate DVD video titles, and that is why the same clip has two different file names and two different titles, but I don't want
duplicate clips on my hard drive with different titles/file names that I don't realize are the same video clip unless I happen to watch them and remember they are the same.
-Quibble-When I find a model I like, then do a search for the rest of her videos, it usually turns out she has very few videos at devils film. Strictly speaking, that's not their fault, because they have a large number of videos, but it is still disappointing
-navigation could be improved. It's not terrible, but it could be a lot easier to find and get to
the video clips/photos you are looking for. In many clips the models are not identified, so that
makes searching for a specific model difficult, when you don't know her name.
-the site layout should have model's name clearly connected to each video clip/photoset, so it's
easy to see name of the model you are looking at
BOTTOM LINE:
-This is a video site. The useful pix are vid caps, that serve to show you what the vid clip is
about
-There are photosets of models at devils film. I enjoy the lovely, erotic, enticing photos at met-art, femjoy, mplstudios, domai, justteensite, mypreciousvirgins, etc. These are quality picture
sites. I look at the photosets at devils film, and I think, "garbage". I admit I am spoiled, but I see no value or attractiveness in the photos. This site has hardcore photosets, which many of the picture sites I listed do not, so maybe some people will enjoy the hardcore photos, but they are not "good-looking", erotic, or exciting, as far as I am concerned
I don't have a lot of experience with video sites. So I can't give a good comparison of the value of this site. What I can say is that pornaccess is a video site that I thought had poor quality videos, terrible navigation, terrible search. Devils film has good quality videos, much easier navigation, much better search. There are a lot of good-looking female models in the videos.
Considering that you get 17 different sites in the network along with devils film, I think the site is worth a 1-month membership of $14.95 you get thru PU. It's not the same as a mega-site like VideosZ or VideoBox, but I think the site/network has a lot of value.
edit 1: I logged on today, and was required to enter a "secret word", along with username and password. This was first time I had to enter a secret word, and it was easy to see the letters.
Ace of aces, I sent you an email thru PU (actually, 2 emails) on how to join the network for $5 for 30 day membership, full access to all the sites in the network. Be sure to check your inbox (or your spam box) to see the details. This is a great deal, very cheap 30 day membership for $5, no tricks, just a low-cost offer.
My brain started to short out from trying to figure out the difference between porn, eroticism, a shoe catalog, and this pay site.
I would need a new brain before I started to think about PU/TBP standards. Though I am sure the PU/TBP standards are exceedingly high. (I don't want the PU staff kicking me off the site because I am not showing sufficient respect for their high moral standards and whatnot.)
Personally, I am not into shoe catalogs. But I don't mind looking at photographic books of movie stars. That is not erotic(I don't think), but the older movie stars had some great-looking women. Head shots, wearing lovely dresses, or even casual, they had glamor, an aura, just beautiful to look at.
Since the site is non-nude, maybe it qualifies as some sort of fetish. But does it qualify as porn?
Some people have a fetish about shoes, but I would not classify a shoe catalog from some retail store as porn, even though a shoe fetishist might use the catalog to excite himself/herself.
From Wikipedia, which is not a dictionary but an encyclopedia:
"Pornography or porn is the depiction of explicit sexual subject matter for the purpose of sexually exciting the viewer. Pornography makes no claim to artistic merit, unlike erotica which does."
This site is non-nude, and I assume there is no "depiction of explicit sexual subject matter". So why would it be considered porn?
Or maybe the site is supposed to be erotic.
But if a book store had a photographic book with pictures from this site, I doubt they would classify the book as either pornographic or erotic.
Great offer, great price. You just have to remember to cancel before the renewal, because:
"After 30 days, membership renews automatically at 39.95 usd every 1 month(s)."
Regular membership is much cheaper thru PU at 14.95/month. Or there might be other low-priced offers out there, that I haven't seen.
It's rare enough to find porn sites with decent bio data on the models, let alone getting updated information on what these models/porn stars are actually doing outside of their films.
And where do I get to read about the breakfast menu of stars like Matt Damon or George Clooney? I didn't realize that information was out there for me. Is that free? If I eat the same breakfast as these mega-stars, will I get a star on Hollywood, so I can take my friends and relatives to look at it?
Actually, with a star on Hollywood, I can make new, better friends, and new, better relatives too.
I can go visit Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie and any and all porn stars I want to, and then I wouldn't have to read about what they eat, but I can eat along with them.
It's almost time for me to take my Thorazine, so I have to stop for now.
I have to admit that I've been searching for a paysite with elegant design with ease of navigation, but I'd also like a bit of great content to go along with it. So I'm afraid that I'll have to keep searching.
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