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VideoBox
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Reply of
exotics4me's Reply
I am usually up to date on what the conversion rate is. That's why the Video Box bill was a surprise. As far as I knew, at the time I was signing up for Video Box, the charge was $14.95 which I din't find out until I received the bill turned out to be £10.54. This was at a time when the dollar was worth 55 pence. That would mean the dollar must have been around $1.80. If they actually convererted the amounts close to the real rate I wouldn't complain. But as I noted, with the dollar at 55 pence I should have been paying about $8.30. I am mainly complaining because I did not see an amount even in euros when I signed up. Even now the amount is only in euros on Video Box. Some sites do give the amount in pounds. If the rate in pounds is close to the amount in dollars, these will be the first sites I consider signing up to. I have decided to boycott all sites that have regional variation and no amount stated in pounds.
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12-19-08 05:49am
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VideoBox
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largeun's Reply
I totally agree. The only way to deal with this is to do what we do - vote with our wallets. I am referring to this regional variation as discrimination. Even when there isn't regional variation, I too often find the amount you are eventually going to pay is not quoted in pounds. You then have to depend on the opposition to convert the currency to the amount they choose, using their conversion rate.
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12-19-08 05:36am
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VideoBox
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largeun's Comment
Yes it is now in euros on Video Box. There is no way of finding out what the amount they are going to charge in pounds is, without signing up. I'm certainly not going to do that. I also hate the idea of this regional discrimination. I consider this is what it is. This is because the site is receiving the amount in dollars. So I consider it discrimination. This is also why I have no moral scruples about downloading stuff free of charge. When I consider I am getting ripped off, I stay away from pay sites and just download for free.
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12-18-08 03:24pm
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VideoBox
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Khan's Reply
My maths is shot to pieces. The exchange rate was $1.80 to the pound a few months ago. There is obviously a difference between $1.3 and $1.8. At the time I signed up the dollar was indeed worth about 55 pence. In fact here I have erred in CCBill's favour. At a rate of 1.8 or 1.9 (it got close to 2.0) the dollar is worth less than 55 pence. Now the pound is worth less than 1.3, but I am talking about when I signed up. I remember getting very close to 50 pence to the dollar on some sites, and for some purchases.
Compared to other purchases where I received good exchange rates, or whatever you call it, CCBill's was dreadful.
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12-18-08 09:50am
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VideoBox
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Khan's Reply
Come to think of it I'm not even disaggreeing with you here. From your perspective there is regional pricing. This is okay by me. But from my perspective, when the pricing policy is not made clear and sometimes not even quoted up front, it is basically dishonest, which is as bad or even worse than being a rip off artist. Either way it seems that through CCBill we are getting worse deals in Europe than from other billing agents. That's the way I see it anyway
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12-18-08 08:17am
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VideoBox
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Reply of
Khan's Reply
I am going to have to disagree with you here. If it's regional pricing then it should be regionally priced for me in pounds, euros, or even dollars, but this is most definitely not the case. I signed up to Video Box for instance at the discount rate of $14.95. This was then converted into £10.54. You cannot argue it is regional pricing simply because it is not. The exchange rate at the time incidentally was around $1.30 to the pound. The dollar was close to 55 pence. I know this from the sites I signed up for and anything I bought in dollars at the time. It is not regional pricing when not only is the price quoted not quoted in pounds it is an overall price for everyone. I signed up through Paysite Discounts. Everywhere else I have seen the same thing though. There is never any mention of regional pricing anywhere by CCBill. You sign up for the dollars, which are quoted in dollars and are then converted from dollars. If they are not converted from dollars then the price in pounds or euros should be quoted. In this instance they were not.
I have looked now, and at the moment they are charging in euros from here. That is more like it. But at the time I signed up it was quoted in dollars. If they do not mention euros or pounds, unless it's in the really small print somewhere it is even worse than rip off conversion rates, it is deliberate deception. The way they have it on Video Box at the moment is more up front. But in the past it has not been as clear as that.
I have found the same thing from CCBill in the past. The price in euros or pounds does not appear clear. It is always the price in dollars that is quoted.
If they are going for regional pricing, the pricing should be CLEAR, not deceptive.
By the way, I know what you are saying and take the points you make on board. I accept the regional pricing idea. I just want it to be made CLEAR by CCBill and sites what the policy is and what the prices are when I am signing up. Not finding out afterwards.
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12-18-08 08:00am
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VideoBox
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Reply of
largeun's Comment
It usually turns out to be much more than that, because CCBill charge rip off conversion rates. They are probably the biggest rip off artists around when it comes to converting dollars into pounds, but people go with them because they feel safer. That's fine, but you just have to be aware that you will pay about 30 per cent over the conversion rate with this organisation, as the price you pay for feeling safer.
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12-18-08 06:13am
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558
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Ultimate Porn Zone
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Denner's Comment
There are just times you feel an inherent warning signal. A big red creature with horns saying "trust me," for instance. A site that starts talking about "an amazing amount of porn 25, 30, 60 sites, 1000 of hours of fantastic porn, covering every niche," makes me very suspicious. You usually only get what you pay for, quite often, less. I wouldn't touch this one with a barge pole. It sounds like this organisation is not close to dishonesty, it crosses the line.
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12-17-08 09:07am
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Drooler's Poll
I voted no. I like to see a healthy forum with lots of threads. Also, I am always discovering some new stuff as a newbie. I have just read a really old thread about suspicious reviews, and all the comments still apply. There are still newbies posting very quick, gushing reviews, and it is always unclear whether they are just inexperienced at reviewing, or people with vested interest in the site.
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12-17-08 08:30am
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560
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Vegas Ken's Poll
Every couple of months for me. I only have so much time, and I don't want to just download tons of stuff I'll never see, so I'm picky.
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12-13-08 07:13pm
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561
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Mature Erotic
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Reply of
messmer's Comment
Yeah but do you have to get his permission to go ahead and print them anyway?! That's as long as PU doesn't mind you publishing them. I see in your other thread he made some very strange comments.
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12-13-08 06:08pm
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562
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VideoBox
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Reply of
GabethePorn's Reply
Seriously, I was down to that on some occasions. I didn't think anyone would believe me!
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12-13-08 09:50am
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VideoBox
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Reply of
GabethePorn's Comment
As an addition, I would like to say that customer service sounds totally lousy at Video Box. I think this should be taken into consideration when awarding marks. It's like a very big, very cheap supermarket. It's cheap simply because there is no customer service.
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12-13-08 09:02am
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VideoBox
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GabethePorn's Comment
That's exactly what I found and pointed out in my review of Video Box. Clearly some people are having no problems at all with download speeds, but without a doubt some of us are finding very slow speeds. Some of the trite simplistic explanations they give are just rubbish, especially if you are used to downloading.
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12-13-08 05:45am
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565
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Reply of
Pinche Kankun's Reply
I can't wait for Pinche Trek 3.
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12-10-08 06:03am
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566
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Drooler's Reply
There'sh one rule I alwaysh have. Dooon't drink and posht at the shame time hic burble burp.....
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12-09-08 02:41pm
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567
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Monahan's Reply
Yeah I agree with you 100 per cent.
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12-09-08 11:58am
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568
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Reply of
Drooler's Reply
This is the advantage of being like me and never trusting anyone! You don't get screwed by people you trust, because you don't trust anyone. On the other hand it makes you a lot less nicer person. I have had to make some pretty tough judgements of character in my life, which turned out to be correct ones. I'd back my judgement of people over just about anyone else's. It makes me an arrogant son of a bitch too.
But with Pinche, you could hardly call him a plant for a website that wants to promote its product. For me, this is the worst sort of thing as far as being untrustworthy goes. He hardly seems to have an alternative agenda, he's just a loose cannon. He probably came in after too much drink, or whatever, and just decided to have a laugh - which backfired. That's how it seemed to me anyway.
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12-09-08 09:42am
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569
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Reply of
Drooler's Poll
Wow, I thought I'd be the only one who said "hate toys."
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12-09-08 09:24am
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570
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Reply of
Wittyguy's Poll
I still think he was kidding. The reviews I have read, have their own idiosyncratic style and opinions, that suggest he has experience of the site. Of course I could be wrong.
I don't think anyone's efforts on this site have been diluted, quite the reverse. It is obvious the people here are big fans of porn. The opinions expressed are generally, IMO, intelligent and thoughtful. This makes the site very enjoyable and also gives it a feel of quality and honesty.
I bet Wittyguy never thought this particular poll would cause such a reaction!
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12-08-08 06:55pm
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571
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Wittyguy's Poll
I never trust anyone but....I think it is reasonably obvious that most of the reviews are clearly done by people who know what they are talking about.
Maybe Pinche was just kidding. If so please give him back his points.
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12-08-08 05:20pm
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572
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VideoBox
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Reply of
mr smut's Comment
Yes I noted this on my review of Video box. I found the speed VERY slow between the hours of about 5pm and midnight European time. It was as low as 10kb/sec on occasions. A number of downloads just timed out as well. The speed then picked up after midnight to about 200-300 kb/sec.
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12-08-08 05:07pm
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573
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Reality Kings
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Reply of
Pinche Kankun's Reply
I think there is a big difference between the support BEFORE you join them and AFTER. I have heard a few bad things on here about their customer support. I have never joined their site and never intend to. Maybe we should all spam them and tell them what a wonderful site it is here at PU. We could give them a discount to join or something, then ignore them when they find there's nothing to download.
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12-07-08 04:28pm
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574
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Sex And Submission
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Reply of
Jay G's Reply
Yeah it sounds like a good idea. I think you tend to like the sites I quite like. I'm not sure how much interest there would be here in such a thread. What makes me worried is that RealSpankings has its own forum. One guy that loves spanking argued that the people at Mood must be "scumbag sadists" or something similar, based on the harshness of the spankings. Myself and one other guy were basically saying - look if you love spanking the rest of the world thinks you are a sicko degenerate. If you, who are into this sort of thing, starts calling people who spank that hard, as scumbag sadists and degenerates, based purely on the strength of the spanking, what hope is there for us. I said I thought he was on very thin ice there anyway, making that sort of judgement. Basically it just shows how inflamed and moralistic supposedly open minded people can get, when they start to talk about those niche sites. But it may be worth starting a thread anyway!
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12-07-08 04:12pm
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Just Teen Movie
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Reply of
lk2fireone's Reply
Yeah I agree, the soundtracks on those things can be absolutely ridiculous at times. I think that most of the people who make these things don't actually like porn at all.
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12-07-08 09:08am
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